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| 02:49 | <~Vornicus> | http://imgur.com/gallery/XIR3h holy shit |
| 03:00 | <&Derakon> | 503'd. Weird. |
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| 03:01 | <~Vornicus> | looks like imgur is overloaded |
| 03:01 | <~Vornicus> | When it gets around to coming back though, it's badass |
| 03:26 | <~Vornicus> | works now. |
| 03:27 | <&Derakon> | Still down for me. *shrug* |
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| 03:27 | <@Alek> | imgur overloads several times a day lately. |
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| 03:39 | | * Vornicus ponders a particular maze-like generator, tries to figure out an algorithm for it |
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| 03:55 | <&Derakon> | Ah, it works now. And yeah, that is pretty neat. |
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| 05:30 | <~Vornicus> | basically it goes like this: you have a bunch of tiles, some black, some white. all the tiles of the same color are contiguous. there are no 2x2 tiles that have all the same color. |
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| 13:02 | | * TheWatcher aaargh |
| 13:02 | <@TheWatcher> | At this point I think this student is /deliberately arsing up the indentation to fuck with me/ |
| 13:02 | <@Emmy-werk> | Whelp, do i smell a failing mark? |
| 13:03 | <@TheWatcher> | That's the problem |
| 13:03 | <@Emmy-werk> | oh? |
| 13:04 | <@TheWatcher> | the code works, is generally correct, uses sensible variable names, has largely decent commenting... and looks like it was indented using the output of a spectrum analyser at a rave |
| 13:04 | <@Emmy-werk> | LOL XD |
| 13:05 | <@TheWatcher> | It's not even /consistently/ badly indented; there's variable numbers of spaces per level in here! |
| 13:05 | <@Emmy-werk> | 0.o |
| 13:06 | <@Emmy-werk> | hmmmh. Not sure what grading scale you use, but maybe substract a small point and comment on the student's indentation needing more attention next time? |
| 13:06 | <@TheWatcher> | Yep, I am doing |
| 13:06 | <@Emmy-werk> | </Unsolicited advice> |
| 13:06 | <@TheWatcher> | And did last time |
| 13:06 | <@TheWatcher> | And the time before. |
| 13:06 | <@Emmy-werk> | Ah |
| 13:07 | <@Emmy-werk> | Perhaps it's time to substract more than a small point. @.@ |
| 13:07 | <@Emmy-werk> | or, time/chance permitting, comment on it in person for more effect. |
| 13:08 | <@TheWatcher> | (10 marks per exercise, one goes on indenting, one on commenting, one on naming and general readability, the remaining 7 go towards different things depending on the exercise) |
| 13:08 | <@Emmy-werk> | Ah |
| 13:12 | <@TheWatcher> | But yes, my suspicion I'm being trolled. You'd have to /work/ to indent this badly. |
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| 13:13 | <@Emmy-werk> | hmmmh. I take it failing marks for trolling the teacher aren't a thing. :P |
| 13:17 | <@TheWatcher> | Nah. I need to be fair; we have an external examiner system in the UK, where the exercises, grades, feedback, and so forth are reviewed by academics from other institutions to make sure we grade consistently and aren't lenient or harsh to an individual student, even if they are trolling us. |
| 13:23 | <@Emmy-werk> | Ah |
| 13:23 | <@Emmy-werk> | Fair but somewhat dysfunctional, i suppose. :P |
| 13:24 | <@TheWatcher> | It is occasionally deeply frustrating, especially when the external has decided to be... awkward |
| 13:24 | <@Emmy-werk> | heh. |
| 13:24 | <@Emmy-werk> | i can imagine |
| 13:25 | <@TheWatcher> | But it does have the advantage that it makes it much harder for individual academics to be total arses to their students. |
| 13:25 | <@TheWatcher> | Or at least, harder for them to get away with it. |
| 13:26 | <@Emmy-werk> | True, but it also makes it harder for the grading academics to guide them to a better performance through other means than the dry grading. |
| 13:26 | <@Emmy-werk> | which, after all, is a means, not a purpose. |
| 13:41 | <&[R]> | TheWatcher: is it a valid whitespace program? |
| 13:43 | <@TheWatcher> | It's C, so whitespace is largely irrelivant, so from that point of view it's "valid". |
| 13:44 | <@Emmy-werk> | The trouble of course is that, bad indenting, like other readability issues, is a magnet for bugs and errors. |
| 14:02 | <&[R]> | Right |
| 14:02 | <&[R]> | But it could still be a valid program written in whitespace, the language. |
| 14:05 | <@TheWatcher> | ... That's a terrifying idea |
| 14:05 | <@TheWatcher> | And one I need to check |
| 14:07 | <@Emmy-werk> | lol |
| 14:09 | <@TheWatcher> | Hm, nope, no tabs. |
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| 21:32 | <@celticminstrel> | ...I think I just figured out why connecting descent stairs to the generated dungeon was not working. |
| 21:32 | <@celticminstrel> | ...wait, no. |
| 21:32 | <@celticminstrel> | Never mind. |
| 21:32 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe that other tweak did fix it then. |
| 21:33 | <@celticminstrel> | Haven't seen any problems since then, at least. |
| 21:33 | <@celticminstrel> | But that could be coincidence, right? |
| 23:34 | <@celticminstrel> | Blargh, I think I need to consider all possibly paths in order to get an "admissible" heuristic... |
| 23:35 | <@celticminstrel> | Using taxi-cab distance as the base, plus different costs depending on the terrain. |
| 23:35 | <@celticminstrel> | ^all possible |
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| 23:43 | <@celticminstrel> | I might be confused about something though... |
| 23:43 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh, wait, I think I am. I should be able to just use the plain taxi-cab distance for the heuristic, right? |
| 23:44 | <~Vornicus> | what makes something admissible |
| 23:45 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm doing A*, so it can't overestimate the cost. (In fact I think I remember you telling me that before.) |
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| 23:51 | <~Vornicus> | oh right. |
| 23:51 | <~Vornicus> | Yes, taxicab distance works fine for this. |
| 23:54 | <&[R]> | <A-C> Today in Windows 10's retarded moments of retarded retardation, there is apparently a keyboard shortcut that disables the keyboard except for keyboard shortcuts. |
| 23:54 | <&[R]> | <A-C> There is no keyboard accessible shortcut to re-enable the keyboard |
| 23:54 | <~Vornicus> | What? |
| 23:57 | <@celticminstrel> | Apparently keys are automatically casted to strings. That's oddly convenient. |
| 23:57 | <@celticminstrel> | Well, assuming you're using an object with overridden toString(). |
| 23:58 | <@celticminstrel> | ...also means you can simulate MD-arrays with arr[[x,y]]... |
| 23:58 | <@celticminstrel> | (Where arr is an object, not an array.) |
| 23:58 | <@celticminstrel> | (Despite the name.) |
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