code logs -> 2016 -> Tue, 08 Nov 2016< code.20161107.log - code.20161109.log >
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<@gnolam>
Might be of interest to people here: https://www.patreon.com/saint11 <- some really good pixel art tutorials
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<&McMartin>
ToxicFrog: I've PMed you a link to an image of the failing USB stick.
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< gizmore>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7IE6QRbYHE
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14:02 * TheWatcher stabs cygwin
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<@TheWatcher>
fucking fork problems
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<@TheWatcher>
Ahahahahhaha, what
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<@TheWatcher>
Seriously?
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<@TheWatcher>
After arsing around with rebaseall and that bullshit, the problem is actually that PATH was too long?!
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<@TheWatcher>
PATH. was. too. long. How the... what the... argh
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<&[R]>
Windows?
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<@TheWatcher>
"* TheWatcher stabs cygwin" so, yeah
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15:05 * TheWatcher stabs the gitlab developers in the head
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<&McMartin>
Yeah, the PATH_MAX on windows is surprisingly low compared to UNIXes, but that's not an absolute limit on path length unless you're abspath()ing everything by default
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<&[R]>
TheWatcher: I mean I'd blame Windows there
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<&McMartin>
If you're sufficiently determined you could make a repo fail that on POSIX too, if it failed on windows
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<&McMartin>
I think PATH_MAX is still something in human-reachable range, like 2048
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<&[R]>
The weird thing is the OS most likely to max out PATH_MAX (due to the way their ecosystem packages software) is the one with the lowest cap on it.
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<&McMartin>
My experience with the Windows ecosystem is that consumer-grade stuff uses, essentially, sharchives, and the enterprise level uses a weird executable database thing
20:07
<&[R]>
Executable database?
20:07
<&McMartin>
Each of those addresses the issue by maintaining a stack of directories written to, and the tradition in both systems when I had to care was that you never wrote a file to anything other than the current working directory
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<&McMartin>
MSI is pretty much a seralized MS Access record under the hood
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<&McMartin>
*serialized
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<&McMartin>
(I'm using NSIS and InnoSetup as the "sharchive" formats here)
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<&McMartin>
The option I can think of where you could hit this most readily would be distributing as unadorned ZIP file, but even there it occurs to me that I've never hit this. I wonder if that's due to archive structure or because archiver/dearchiver programs use a walker routine
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<&McMartin>
Also, now that I'm digging around, I see that Win10 lets you boost PATH_MAX, probably due to the new nanoprocesses that can become full POSIX simulators
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<&McMartin>
If you want to run bash seminatively, you'll have to be able to deal with any abspath that Debian does~
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