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| 10:33 | | * TheWatcher stabs jquery |
| 10:34 | <@TheWatcher> | Seriously, why do I have to do $("#foo").datepicker("getDate"); rather than just being able to do $('#foo').getDate(); |
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| 10:42 | <@Emmy-werk> | Because object-oriented programming dictates that first you mention the parent? |
| 10:43 | <@TheWatcher> | Uh |
| 10:44 | <@TheWatcher> | Mootools is vastly more OO friendly than jquery, and it'd let me do the latter |
| 10:44 | <@Emmy-werk> | hmmmh |
| 10:45 | <@Emmy-werk> | either way, you're working with a language with a 'j' in its' name. :P |
| 10:46 | <@TheWatcher> | I can't really argue with that... |
| 11:30 | <@Emmy-werk> | also, mootools? that sounds like a toolset to program cows. :P |
| 11:37 | <@Emmy-werk> | Where is Tec when you need him/her |
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| 14:17 | <&VirusJTG> | I want to build a system that can modify basic switch funsions of all atteched switches at the same time. Like adding a vlan and tagging that traffic on all trunk ports |
| 14:17 | <&VirusJTG> | that stated |
| 14:17 | <&VirusJTG> | that is far too much like work for something that needs to be done once every 3 years or so |
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| 14:47 | <~Vornicus> | You could probably throw together a bash script for it |
| 14:54 | <@Tarinaky> | Suppose I had an awesome idea for some great website/service. Let's say Facebook for Coffee Machines... |
| 14:54 | <@Tarinaky> | In theory I have the skill-set to make a decent MVP/Prototype. |
| 14:55 | <@Tarinaky> | But how do you actually turn an idea into something that makes more money than it costs? |
| 14:59 | <~Vornicus> | step 1. don't ask twitter how to do that |
| 15:08 | <@Namegduf> | Build it, sell it off to someone else, run away |
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| 15:59 | <@Tarinaky> | That's what I was afraid you'd say :/ |
| 16:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Still, I get to make humerous remarks referring to it as Twitter for Ants (it needs to be... at least 3 times bigger)" |
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| 16:23 | | * Mango waves to the room |
| 16:25 | < Mango> | We have software that generates log files in XML format. So I wrote some CSS to style the XML so that it may be displayed in a browser. |
| 16:26 | < Mango> | Can you add Javascript to XML files and if so what is the syntax please? |
| 16:29 | <~Vornicus> | to *xml* files? |
| 16:29 | < Mango> | Right. |
| 16:30 | < Mango> | I just want to do some simple math on the data. |
| 16:30 | < Mango> | Oo! <xhtml:script xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="file.js" type="application/javascript"/> |
| 16:30 | < Mango> | I think I found it. |
| 16:32 | <&[R]> | You'll probably have to XLT or whatever it first |
| 16:33 | <@celticminstrel> | I think I'd suggest XSL too. |
| 16:37 | < Mango> | HAHAHA IT WORKS! |
| 16:38 | < Mango> | <script xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" src="script.js"></script> |
| 16:38 | < Mango> | also works. |
| 16:38 | <~Vornicus> | silliness |
| 16:38 | < Mango> | ? |
| 16:39 | <@Tarinaky> | I /suspect/ that's more a quirk of the Browser you're using than any kind of actual robust standard. |
| 16:39 | <@Tarinaky> | Using XSL would be more robust/correct I think? |
| 16:40 | < Mango> | It works in Firefox and Chrome but not Internet Explorer, but that's ok for this project. |
| 16:40 | <@Tarinaky> | Yeah. I don't think Firefox/Chrome have a seperate XML handler in the same way IE does. |
| 16:41 | <@Tarinaky> | So it's probably just processing it as HTML and hoping for the best. |
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| 16:48 | < Mango> | FF/Ch do complain when XML is invalid, but not HTML. |
| 16:52 | <&[R]> | Because HTML is rarely invalid. |
| 17:01 | < ToxicFrog> | Because HTML is invalid all the time, but the browser needs to render it anyways. |
| 17:10 | <&[R]> | Ha |
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| 17:23 | <@abudhabi> | Why is it always so slow when I click a link in one application (for example Thunderbird, but also terminal and others), before it opens up in my system browser? |
| 17:23 | <@abudhabi> | (Linux Mint.) |
| 17:24 | <&McMartin> | I'm used to FF being super-hardcore about XHTML |
| 17:24 | <@abudhabi> | There seems to be a bottleneck somewhere. |
| 17:24 | <&McMartin> | This may have changed since hte last time I checked |
| 17:24 | <&McMartin> | abudhabi: CORBA? |
| 17:24 | <@abudhabi> | CORBA? |
| 17:25 | <&McMartin> | CORBA is the GNOME equivalent of COM |
| 17:25 | <&McMartin> | More or less |
| 17:25 | <&McMartin> | It's the IPC mechanism those tools use |
| 17:25 | <@abudhabi> | This is XFCE, not Gnome, but ionno. |
| 17:25 | < ToxicFrog> | abudhabi: AIUI, when you do that, it hands it off to xdg-open or similar, which hands it off to the browser, which then sees the running browser instance and IPCs it the link |
| 17:25 | <&McMartin> | Ah hm. Dunno what it uses |
| 17:25 | <&[R]> | xdg-open |
| 17:25 | < ToxicFrog> | In my experience, this is quite fast, and xdg-open is quite fast in general |
| 17:25 | < ToxicFrog> | So I would guess the bottleneck is in FF starting up and seeing if it's already running |
| 17:25 | <@abudhabi> | It takes like 5 seconds for links to actually open. |
| 17:25 | < ToxicFrog> | (I use Chrome) |
| 17:26 | <@abudhabi> | I use Chromium. |
| 17:26 | < ToxicFrog> | Oh wait, I got confused and thought you were using FF. |
| 17:26 | < ToxicFrog> | But yeah, on both my laptop and my workstation it's <1s from clicking the link to it opening in the browser, and most of that is just the workspace switch animation. |
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| 17:28 | <&McMartin> | You could fire up top and see if some other process seems to spike the CPU, I guess |
| 17:29 | < ToxicFrog> | top only refreshes once a second, but if it's taking ~5 seconds that may be good enough |
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| 17:29 | < ToxicFrog> | Or use strace -f -etrace=process |
| 17:30 | < ToxicFrog> | Assuming it works by just fork-execing xdg-open rather than dbussing to the DE that then does it. |
| 17:30 | <@abudhabi> | top says that Chrome goes up to 40-90 CPU use when I click. |
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