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| 09:30 | <@simon_> | are all subsets of context-free languages context-free? |
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| 09:32 | <@simon_> | I suppose not. |
| 09:32 | <@simon_> | makes it easier to prove. |
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| 10:50 | <@abudhabi> | Just to doublecheck - a 120m wide and 120m tall cylinder would be roughly the same valume as one hundred thousand 3m x 3m x 1.5m boxes, right? |
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| 10:54 | <@abudhabi> | *volume |
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| 11:07 | <@TheWatcher> | abudhabi: pi*60^2*120 ~= 1,357,168. (3*3*1.5)*100000 = 1,350,000. So, pretty close, yes. |
| 11:11 | <@abudhabi> | OK, good. |
| 11:11 | <@abudhabi> | That deals with the question of the atmospheric freighter! |
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| 11:21 | < catadroid> | beep |
| 11:21 | <@Tamber> | boop |
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| 11:22 | | * TheWatcher ughs at python |
| 11:22 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, more at django, really |
| 11:37 | | * catadroid has completed deployment of new hash map |
| 11:39 | <@TheWatcher> | \o/ congrats! |
| 11:40 | <@TheWatcher> | (did you get to press a big red button to deploy it?) |
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| 11:45 | < catadroid`> | Well, I committed it |
| 11:47 | <@abudhabi> | But did not reverted it? |
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| 11:48 | <@abudhabi> | ( imadeyouacookiebutieatedit.jpg ) |
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| 13:12 | <@Emmy> | argh. nothing more aggravating than an inconsistent tool (program) |
| 13:12 | <@Emmy> | Well, except for a tool doing things without being prompted to. |
| 13:12 | <@Emmy> | ...inconsistently. |
| 13:33 | <@abudhabi> | What's the cheapest you can get a drone that you can control via internet-connected wifi? |
| 13:33 | <@abudhabi> | I mean, you sit with the controller in one place, and the drone is receiving instructions from the internet, via wifi. |
| 13:37 | <@Reiv> | uh |
| 13:37 | <@Reiv> | no idea, that'd be rapidly heading toward illegal here |
| 13:37 | <@Reiv> | (Here you need a liscence unless your drone is in direct comms) |
| 13:38 | <@abudhabi> | Illegal to fly a drone inside my home in another country via internet? |
| 13:38 | <@abudhabi> | Sounds totalitarian. |
| 13:39 | <@Reiv> | mm, inside ones own house might be different |
| 13:39 | <@Reiv> | Ours is due to flight regulations for unmaned aircraft |
| 13:39 | <@Reiv> | so who knows, but I'm afraid I don't |
| 13:40 | <@Reiv> | good luck with terrorising the parentals, or whatever it is you're working on :p |
| 13:40 | <@Emmy> | abudhabi: well, you could go with a RasPi-controlled device. |
| 13:40 | <@abudhabi> | Excellent. I already have a raspi server up. |
| 13:40 | <@Emmy> | assuming you're prepared to build it yourself, that is |
| 13:41 | <@Emmy> | should give you unparalleled versatility, at least. |
| 13:41 | <@TheWatcher> | Next you just need to make it looks like a HL2 scanner~ |
| 13:41 | <@Emmy> | Not likely to be the smallest solution, though |
| 13:42 | <@Emmy> | TheWatcher: better: a Halo forerunner AI orb. :D |
| 13:44 | <@abudhabi> | Emmy: Oh, you mean the raspi being the drone? |
| 13:44 | <@Emmy> | Yup. |
| 13:45 | <@Emmy> | Though i suppose you could also use the raspi as a ground station |
| 13:46 | <@abudhabi> | I'm thinking something like: Me -> SSH tunnel -> Raspi Server -> Wifi -> Drone. |
| 13:46 | <@Emmy> | Though that would probably make it considerably harder to make sure the drone doesn't fly into things all the time. |
| 13:47 | <@Emmy> | nah. in that case it might be easier to have the raspi control the drone via the usual RC channels. |
| 13:48 | <@Emmy> | assuming you''re still self-building, that is. |
| 13:48 | <@Emmy> | the easiest, but likely not the cheapest, solution would be to find a ready-made wifi drone with collision detection built-in |
| 13:49 | <@Emmy> | and then control it with the raspi via wifi. |
| 13:50 | <@Emmy> | but i don't know if those come with flight cameras to fly FPV. |
| 13:54 | <@Emmy> | So you might still be better off building a frame capable of supporting a cam, the raspi and the usb-level battery (5V-1A) with collision avoidance sensors. |
| 13:56 | <@abudhabi> | I'd definitely like induction recharging. |
| 13:56 | <@abudhabi> | Because it's probably easier for a drone to land on a pad than remotely plugging it in. |
| 13:59 | | * TheWatcher ughs, needs a wall-sized piece of graph paper or something |
| 14:01 | <@Emmy> | True. |
| 14:03 | <@Emmy> | You'll need a wireless recharging pad and receiver capable of recharging the flight battery, though. The power requirement for that might be 'interesting' |
| 14:04 | <@Emmy> | alternatively, you could try making a funnel-shaped landing pad like spacecraft docking ports. |
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| 15:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | I think I found a bug in glibc this morning. |
| 15:24 | <@Tamber> | That's an awfully serious thought. |
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| 15:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | Tamber: check out what happens when you strptime("2016-00-1", "%Y-%W-%w") |
| 15:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Which is to say, the monday of the 0th week in 2016 |
| 15:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | It gives you the following date, in YYYYMMDD format: 2016-00--368 |
| 15:27 | <@Tamber> | ...ooh-er. |
| 15:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Which is to say, year 2016, month 0 (note that January is 1!), and day -368 |
| 15:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | Which is actually thursday, november 27th, 2014. |
| 15:28 | <&[R]> | Uhh... shit data in, shit data out? |
| 15:29 | <@Emmy> | You know what they say, garbage in, garbage out |
| 15:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | [R]: according to POSIX.1, 2016-00-1 is valid. |
| 15:29 | <&[R]> | So it is. Hmm. |
| 15:30 | <&[R]> | Guessing it pukes because week zero has no sunday. |
| 15:32 | <@Emmy> | ? why does week zero have no sunday? |
| 15:32 | <@Emmy> | For that matter, why is week zero a valid input? |
| 15:39 | | * Tamber ponders. |
| 15:40 | <@gnolam> | <ToxicFrog> Which is to say, the monday of the 0th week in 2016 |
| 15:40 | <@gnolam> | Doesn't strptime() use the stupid American "Sunday is the first day of the week" convention? |
| 15:41 | <@TheWatcher> | Yes |
| 15:41 | <@TheWatcher> | int tm_wday; /* Day of the week (0-6, Sunday = 0) */ |
| 15:41 | <@Emmy> | Ah, and the 0th week of the year is that partial week at the beginning of the week? |
| 15:42 | <@Emmy> | at the beginning of the year, i mean |
| 15:42 | <@Emmy> | in that case, the 0th week has no 0th day, because then it would be a complete week, and therefore week 1 by definition? |
| 15:43 | | * TheWatcher eyes the man page |
| 15:44 | <@TheWatcher> | Y'know, I've never noticed this before, but WTF: |
| 15:44 | <@TheWatcher> | %W The week number with Monday the first day of the week (0-53). |
| 15:44 | <@TheWatcher> | %w The ordinal number of the day of the week (0-6), with Sunday = 0 |
| 15:44 | <@Tamber> | ...wait, wat. |
| 15:44 | <@Emmy> | ...wat? |
| 15:45 | <@Tamber> | Hooray consistency and PoLS~? |
| 15:45 | <@TheWatcher> | http://linux.die.net/man/3/strptime yeah, it's not my man pages mucked up or anything |
| 15:46 | <@Emmy> | assuming 'bit' rollover, somewhat sensical, as day 0 actually refers to day 10 in a seven-based numerical system |
| 15:46 | <@TheWatcher> | %U is the wrrk number with sunday the first day of the week |
| 15:46 | <@TheWatcher> | *week |
| 15:46 | <@Tamber> | ;_; |
| 15:46 | <@Emmy> | but yes. somewhat silly and unintuitive. |
| 15:47 | <@gnolam> | I'm guessing ISO week numbers were added later. |
| 15:51 | | * Tamber ponders a bit more. |
| 15:52 | | * Emmy ponders a byte |
| 15:52 | | * Emmy ponders byting in a cookie. |
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| 15:55 | < catadroid`> | Mm cookie |
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| 18:12 | <@Emmy> | Mother. Fucker. |
| 18:13 | <@Emmy> | as if my esteem for microshit could sink any fucking lower |
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| 18:16 | <@Alek> | what now? |
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| 18:18 | <@Emmy> | apparently they've resorted to anti-adblock terrorising now |
| 18:18 | <@Emmy> | either that, or my dad has been incredibly stupid |
| 18:19 | <~Vornicus> | That's somewhat more likely. |
| 18:37 | <@Emmy> | agreed, but i'm giving my dad the benefit of the doubt for now |
| 18:37 | <@Emmy> | what's worse, though, is that his mac is horrifically out of date. |
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| 18:38 | <@Emmy> | running osx 10.5* |
| 18:38 | <@Emmy> | the os, i mean, hardware is okay. |
| 18:38 | <@Emmy> | anyway. dinnertime |
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| 18:39 | <~Vornicus> | 10.5. *that* is old. |
| 19:09 | <&[R]> | Emmy-Noms: what's MS doing? |
| 19:11 | <@Emmy-Noms> | holding your hotmail inbox hostage unless you remove adblock, apparently. |
| 19:11 | <&[R]> | Oh wow, that's fucked |
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| 19:13 | <&McMartin> | Adblock or noscript |
| 19:13 | <@Emmy> | not for every account, apparently, because when i logged in it worked just fine, but still |
| 19:13 | <@Emmy> | ABP. |
| 19:13 | <&McMartin> | Okay |
| 19:14 | <&McMartin> | So this isn't like, say, why imgur doesn't have comments for me >.> |
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| 19:15 | <@Emmy> | well, not because of adblock |
| 19:16 | <@Emmy> | but if you've got something like noscript it might be set a bit too aggressive and blocking imgur's comment section scripts. |
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| 19:27 | <~Vornicus> | I'm not seeing wider reports of your issue |
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| 20:41 | <&McMartin> | Emmy: yeah this is explicitly noscript being aggressive |
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| 21:15 | <@Emmy> | Vornicus: admittedly, that is the prime reason why i am extremely cautious |
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| 22:24 | <@ToxicFrog> | gnolam: IIRC %V is ISO week numbers? |
| 22:24 | <@ToxicFrog> | strftime/strptime accept %W, %U, and %V as different definitions of "week number"; %W (week of year, monday is first day of week) is what I'm using. |
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