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| 00:29 | <&Derakon> | Vorn: no, I can't. |
| 00:30 | <&Derakon> | foo() is defined in the API as "do task X", foo2() is defined as "declare whether or not performing task X is possible". |
| 00:34 | <&Derakon> | Basically what's going on here is we have an API method for some of our plugins that is optional, and gets blindly called by the host -- the default (un-overridden) implementation is a no-op. |
| 00:34 | <&Derakon> | We want to change this so that we can know whether or not the plugin is using the default implementation, so we can enable/disable the button in the GUI that invokes the function. |
| 00:35 | <&Derakon> | That requires adding a second optional API method whose job is to say whether or not the first one actually does anything. |
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| 04:00 | < Guru> | Something seems wrong with my main nick |
| 04:00 | < Guru> | Says it's in use |
| 04:00 | < Guru> | Not sure how to deal with that |
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| 04:29 | <&Derakon> | Guru: /msg nickserv recover nick password |
| 04:29 | <&Derakon> | Assuming you have registered your main nick with nickserv, this will boot off whoever is currently using the nick and reinstate you. |
| 04:29 | <@Azash> | Ghost will do that |
| 04:29 | <@Azash> | Recover just forces a rename iirc |
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| 04:30 | <@Azash> | Oh |
| 04:30 | < Shady> | Thank you! |
| 04:30 | <@Azash> | Well dang |
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| 04:30 | < Shady> | lol |
| 04:30 | <&Derakon> | Recover is /ghost + /nick. |
| 04:30 | <@Azash> | Ah |
| 04:33 | <@celticminstrel> | I don't think I've ever heard of /ghost being a command. |
| 04:33 | <@celticminstrel> | Normally it's /ns ghost. |
| 04:34 | <@celticminstrel> | My client generally does the /nick for me automatically anyway. |
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| 05:11 | <@Alek> | it should be /ns command or /nickserv command, but the ns/nickserv part is taken for granted usually. although you can create your own alias using /command, I believe, in which case ns/nickserv is the only way to reach the original command. |
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| 08:20 | <@simon_> | I |
| 08:36 | <@simon_> | I've got two database tables, CompanyEvent {CompanyEventId,CompanyId,FiscalPeriodId,...} and KnownUrls {CompanyEventId,Url}, and I'd like to check if there's any companies (SELECT DISTINCT CompanyId FROM CompanyEvent) that is missing KnownUrls for its most recent event, or for any of the N most recent events. |
| 08:36 | <@simon_> | so far I've got; SELECT ce.CompanyId, MIN(ce.FiscalPeriodId) AS FirstFiscalPeriodId, MAX(ce.FiscalPeriodId) AS LatestFiscalPeriodId FROM CompanyEvents AS ce GROUP BY ce.CompanyId |
| 08:37 | <@simon_> | I figured that if I could somehow generate {CompanyEventId, OneFiscalPeriodId} for each FiscalPeriodId in the range [FirstFiscalPeriodId, LastFiscalPeriodId], I could LEFT OUTER JOIN my KnownUrls back onto that and look for NULLs. |
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| 08:47 | < jeroud> | This looks like a job for Captain Reiver of SQL Division. |
| 08:52 | <@simon_> | :P |
| 08:52 | <@simon_> | I might just inject a list of length N |
| 08:53 | <@simon_> | as sort of a temporary table. |
| 08:56 | <@simon_> | gah. I'm not used to these complex SQL queries. and having to translate them into linq-to-sql after just makes it even more quirky. |
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| 13:06 | <@Emmy> | urgh. I swear, I might think up complicated, bad solutions sometimes before i get it right, but my boss has elevated convoluted messes to an art. |
| 13:10 | <@pjdelport> | Where there's a will, there's a way. |
| 13:24 | <@TheWatcher> | The Peter Principle in action~ |
| 13:25 | <@abudhabi> | Hm. Can you clone None? |
| 13:28 | <~Vornicus> | why would you want to |
| 13:31 | < jeroud> | All Nones are the same None. |
| 13:31 | < jeroud> | (Assuming Python.) |
| 13:31 | <@Emmy> | peter principle? |
| 13:32 | <~Vornicus> | peter principle: everyone gets promoted to the point where they are no longer competent |
| 13:33 | <@Emmy> | Ah. nah, not peter principle, in that case |
| 13:33 | <@Emmy> | seeing she's her own boss. the trouble is, she's a decent coder, just not good at building data structures. |
| 13:39 | <@abudhabi> | Vornicus: For lulz. |
| 13:40 | <@abudhabi> | I am told that None is a singleton, but I wonder if it's possible to make an instance of it. |
| 13:42 | <@pjdelport> | abudhabi: You can by bypassing the appropriate base initialisation methods. |
| 13:42 | <~Vornicus> | But why wouold you want to |
| 13:42 | <@pjdelport> | The default NoneType implementations block it, for POLA. |
| 13:42 | <@abudhabi> | Vornicus: For lulz. |
| 13:42 | <~Vornicus> | These lulz make no sense |
| 13:43 | <@pjdelport> | Well, it can be an instructive exercise to learn how the Python meta-object protocol works. |
| 13:43 | <@abudhabi> | Vornicus: They don't have to! |
| 14:02 | <@Emmy> | that's the fun thing about lulz |
| 14:04 | <@abudhabi> | https://www.quantumbalancing.com/worldelectricity/images/voltages%20around%20the %20world.gif <- Why does Japan use two frequencies? |
| 14:08 | <@Emmy> | Wait, doesn't the US have a way higher herz? |
| 14:09 | <@simon_> | it does have a higher lulz. |
| 14:14 | <@TheWatcher> | Emmy: no, US uses 60Hz |
| 14:17 | <@pjdelport> | abudhabi: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2011/07/19/reference/japans-incompatible-power- grids/ |
| 14:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | abudhabi: when .jp was electrifying, the northern municipalities imported European equipment and the southern ones American equipment, apparently without talking to each other |
| 14:19 | <~Vornicus> | That must be annoying as fuck |
| 14:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | By the time it became an issue, there was so much infrastructure that replacing half of it was a financial and political non-starter. |
| 14:28 | <@Emmy> | there are 12 competing standards! |
| 14:29 | <@Emmy> | that's bull. lets make a standard that covers everyone's use case. |
| 14:29 | <@Emmy> | there are 13 competing standards. :P |
| 14:34 | <@Emmy> | i swear, access' event triggers are ()&*%$@#*$! |
| 14:39 | | * TheWatcher eyes that, wonders if it's a valid event trigger~ |
| 14:42 | <@Emmy> | Well, &*%$@#*$!() might be, depending on what characters are allowed in function names. |
| 14:43 | <@Emmy> | But i'm pretty sure Emmy_GotFocus(TheWatcher as String) would be. |
| 14:59 | <&VirusJTG> | I think I see the issue |
| 14:59 | <&VirusJTG> | you are using access :-P |
| 14:59 | <&VirusJTG> | I was an access developer in a pervious job |
| 15:00 | <&VirusJTG> | that is when I quit programing for a living and became a sysadmin |
| 15:01 | <&VirusJTG> | some days how ever, I do question the wisdom of that decision..... |
| 15:02 | < catadroid> | Access feels like an ironic name |
| 15:03 | <&VirusJTG> | no, does does exactly waht the name implies, it gives you access to data, it makes it painful to work with but you do indeed have access to it. |
| 15:08 | <@Emmy> | pretty much. on the whole, it works as intented, but in some details, it can suddenly be very lacking, incomplete, or plain illogical, leading to frustration. |
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| 15:13 | <~Vornicus> | When I tutored office stuff everybody liked access better than excel |
| 15:16 | <@Emmy> | They do different things, and have different intended uses, but underneath they run similarly. |
| 15:17 | <@Emmy> | one is useful for managing large amounts of data, the other is useful for large-scale calculations. |
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| 18:14 | < jeroud> | Access is basically sqlite for Windows with a GUI bolted on the front. |
| 18:23 | <&VirusJTG> | ^ that |
| 18:25 | <&VirusJTG> | when I was developing with it I was using it to query large databases for mortgages looking for home owners in good standing with higher FICO scores so the bank could solicit them for refinancing. At the time that specific bank held 1 out of every 8 mortgages in the USA. It has since grown larger... |
| 18:25 | <&VirusJTG> | Once I developed the right queries in Access I would then use VB to automate the reports |
| 18:26 | <&VirusJTG> | I asked for SQL Server management studio to get query analyzer, they didn't want me to have it :( |
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| 19:15 | <&Derakon> | Ugh, whoever made this GUI has no conception of flow-based layout. ;_; |
| 19:15 | <&Derakon> | Every single component is manually set into a fixed location with fixed size. |
| 19:16 | <&Derakon> | Which means that if you want to change any part of the layout you have to change every part of the layout, hooray! |
| 19:30 | <~Vornicus> | :( |
| 19:38 | <@ErikMesoy> | And that's terrible. |
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| 20:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | <ellyjones> $ (echo '[IIIII]'; echo '[II]') | dc -e '[[]p]sc[dSdd0<aLdd0=c]sb[[I]n1-lbx]sa?drarZ?Z*lbx' |
| 20:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | <rzl> ellyjones: I've never seen such a compelling example of "unconditional hire, but definitely not for my team" |
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| 20:22 | | * [R] doesn't even get why a /calculator/ program is doing that. |
| 20:22 | <&[R]> | (For the curious, the output is "IIIIIII" |
| 20:22 | <&[R]> | ERr |
| 20:23 | <&[R]> | 11 I's |
| 20:23 | <@TheWatcher> | .... |
| 20:24 | <@TheWatcher> | I... yes. |
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| 20:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: it's 10 'I's here, which is what it should be |
| 20:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | (the original question was "what's the most esoteric one-liner you can come up with to multiply 2 and 5", prompted by someone discovering $(())) |
| 20:38 | <&[R]> | Ah, wc -c said 11 |
| 20:38 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's counting the newline. |
| 20:38 | <&[R]> | Obviously |
| 20:38 | <&ToxicFrog> | $ (echo '[IIIII]'; echo '[II]') | dc -e '[[]p]sc[dSdd0<aLdd0=c]sb[[I]n1-lbx]sa?drarZ?Z*lbx' | xxd |
| 20:38 | <&ToxicFrog> | 00000000: 4949 4949 4949 4949 4949 0a IIIIIIIIII. |
| 20:39 | <&[R]> | IMO that'd be massively more impressive if it worked with actual roman numerals. |
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| 21:02 | <~Vornicus> | ;_; |
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