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| 00:27 | < [R]> | So, I'm debugging an issue on my dad's computer, he's running the latest Chrome on Windows 10. Every so often, Chrome is unable to complete all the requests required for tastytrade.com (dev tools show a bunch as "pending" and the entire tab is frozen up. I've reinstalled chrome, run a memtest, his internet connection is otherwise fine (constant 54ms for ping, no packets dropped) I don't know what to do. |
| 00:29 | <~Vornicus> | Just that one site? |
| 00:29 | <~Vornicus> | also, logged in or not |
| 00:29 | < Azash> | [R]: Can you reproduce this on Firefox/Edge/anything? |
| 00:30 | <~Vornicus> | I get no reproduction on my chrome/win10 going to the front page. |
| 00:30 | < Azash> | This reminds me somewhat of an issue we had in a project with Chrome's superaggro preloading policy |
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| 00:31 | < Azash> | A commonly enough visited site gets a premade connection from Chrome, I forget if just an opened TCP connection or what but they might have something blocking more than X connections from Y place at a time |
| 00:31 | < Azash> | Then again that wouldn't explain a lockup |
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| 00:42 | < [R]> | Vornicus: it's not 100% reproducable, it's about every 10th video |
| 00:47 | <~Vornicus> | so google has apparently open sourced an english language parser |
| 00:47 | <~Vornicus> | Named Parsey McParseface |
| 00:48 | <&McMartin> | :golfclap: |
| 00:49 | <&McMartin> | Confirmed: http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2016/05/announcing-syntaxnet-worlds-most.html |
| 00:54 | < [R]> | Alright, Edge is unable to reproduce it after 20 page loads. |
| 00:54 | < [R]> | So possibly a bug in Chrome? (It's running 32bit on a 64bit system if that matters at all) |
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| 07:08 | <&McMartin> | My next Bumbershoot Software post is going to be four versions of Hello World. |
| 07:08 | <&McMartin> | I'm not sure if this is a hilarious idea or just a terrible one |
| 07:10 | < simon_> | heh |
| 07:10 | <&McMartin> | (C64, MS-DOS, Linux32, Win32, with no language runtime support in any case.) |
| 07:10 | <~Vornicus> | I'd like to see it |
| 07:11 | <&McMartin> | Well, I'm about a hundred lines into my draft |
| 07:11 | < simon_> | reminds me of that tutorial on creating really, really small ELF binaries. http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html |
| 07:11 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 07:11 | <&McMartin> | I'm not doing those tricks here |
| 07:11 | <&McMartin> | That's why the Linux32 Hello World is 360 bytes long. |
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| 07:14 | < simon_> | I just like how he keeps going smaller and smaller and smaller |
| 07:14 | < simon_> | there's suspense. |
| 07:15 | < simon_> | "will -s do it? yeah, but..." "will -O do it? hardly." "will nasm do it? ahhh, shoot. only 12 bytes smaller." and so on :) |
| 07:16 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 07:16 | <&McMartin> | That said, I didn't hit some of the silliness he hit. |
| 07:16 | <&McMartin> | Like, NASM isn't tagging my code. |
| 07:16 | < simon_> | right. hehe. |
| 07:16 | <&McMartin> | So my much larger core program ends up smaller than every case he had that ever called ld. |
| 07:17 | <&McMartin> | As it happens, DOS is the champion, and it's unlikely to be defeated |
| 07:18 | <&McMartin> | Because the .COM format has literally no overhead, and 16-bit x86 code seems to be in a kind of size sweet spot |
| 07:23 | <&McMartin> | "On the other hand, every single byte in this executable file can be accounted for and justified. How many executables have you created lately that you can say that about?" |
| 07:23 | <&McMartin> | ...almost every retro program on my blog, actually >.> |
| 07:24 | <&McMartin> | PE32 is a *lot* more wasteful with padding |
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| 07:43 | <@macdjord> | McMartin: That was hilarious. |
| 07:43 | <@macdjord> | Sorry, s/ McMartin / simon_ / |
| 07:47 | <&McMartin> | I remember this article, of old |
| 07:47 | <&McMartin> | It is just as good now as it was then |
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| 08:10 | <@macdjord> | It vaguely reminds me of the Story of Mel. |
| 08:14 | < [R]> | IMO if you had enough paper you could probably have drawn a non-standard flowchart to indicate how mel's program worked (not that the protag had any moral incentive to do so) |
| 08:16 | <&McMartin> | Yes |
| 08:16 | <&McMartin> | I program in assembly for fun and I say with authority that Mel was a dick |
| 08:16 | <&McMartin> | I'm not gonna finish this article tonight |
| 08:18 | < simon_> | McMartin, I've read it twice, too. it's funny how you can get back to old internet relics and enjoy them again. |
| 08:36 | < abudhabi> | Mel was a master troll. :D |
| 08:39 | < abudhabi> | Arghle. |
| 08:39 | < abudhabi> | I have a ByteArrayOutputStream. How do I funnel that data into an input stream? |
| 08:40 | < abudhabi> | I swear, Java streams are completely awful. |
| 08:40 | < abudhabi> | I can't do anything without a reference. |
| 08:52 | <&McMartin> | Looks like I lied, unless if you count pre and post midnight as different "tonights" |
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| 08:53 | <~Vornicus> | It's not tomorrow until like 6 am |
| 08:53 | <~Vornicus> | that's the way tv works too. or did, back when "end of the broadcast day" was a thing |
| 08:58 | <&McMartin> | https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2016/05/13/hello-world-4-different-ways/ |
| 08:58 | < abudhabi> | Is there any way to log a SOAP request without making it unavailable for reading later? |
| 09:05 | <~Vornicus> | man, the vic 20 |
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| 09:25 | <&McMartin> | Vornicus: When computing filesize I cannot exclude them, but yeah, I seem to have mistyped that. |
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| 09:26 | <&McMartin> | There's always a newline in the string, yeah |
| 09:26 | <&McMartin> | Contents of section .text: 8048080 b8040000 00bb0100 0000b9a0 900408ba ................ 8048090 0e000000 cd80b801 00000031 dbcd80 ...........1... |
| 09:26 | <~Vornicus> | right. you're counting that separately though, so |
| 09:26 | <&McMartin> | Contents of section .data: 80490a0 48656c6c 6f2c2077 6f726c64 210a Hello, world!. |
| 09:26 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 09:27 | < abudhabi> | McMartin: "but with no impace on our binary " |
| 09:28 | <&McMartin> | Also, I never spell "noticeably" right |
| 09:32 | | * McMartin fixes that and also makes the DOS category a subcategory of retrocoding. |
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| 15:26 | < Azash> | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/datagatekeeper/datagatekeeper-the-first-imp enetrable-anti-hacking/description |
| 15:29 | <@iospace> | Azash: and kickstarter went down |
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| 15:58 | <@iospace> | I think kickstarter is getting ddosed :V |
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| 20:38 | <&McMartin> | Unix command of the week: echo returnable | sed saturnalia |
| 20:39 | <@Tamber> | :D |
| 20:43 | <@macdjord> | ? |
| 20:44 | <@Tamber> | tamber@na$> echo returnable | sed saturnalia |
| 20:44 | <@Tamber> | reliable |
| 20:45 | < Azash> | oic |
| 20:46 | < Azash> | sed parses the first non-matching command character as the separator? |
| 20:46 | < Azash> | non-command, rather |
| 20:46 | <@macdjord> | I know 'echo' and 'sed'. I have no idea what 'returnable' is, what 'saturnalia' is (besides a Roman holiday), or why this is funny. |
| 20:46 | < [R]> | Correct |
| 20:46 | <~Vornicus> | returnable is just the word. |
| 20:46 | <@Tamber> | 'returnable' and 'saturnalia' are strings that you feed to the respective commands. |
| 20:46 | <~Vornicus> | saturnalia is a regex replacement with delimiter 'a' |
| 20:46 | < [R]> | $ echo returnable | sed s,turn,li, |
| 20:46 | < [R]> | reliable |
| 20:47 | <&McMartin> | Right |
| 20:47 | < Azash> | Contrast s/turn/li/ |
| 20:47 | <&McMartin> | Or, you know, s/turn/li/ which is how you'd usually phrase that |
| 20:47 | < [R]> | Pfft |
| 20:47 | < [R]> | Comma master race you plebians |
| 20:47 | < Azash> | s/i/e\1/ |
| 20:47 | <@macdjord> | Okay, now I understand what the commands are doing. Still not seeing the humor. |
| 20:48 | <&McMartin> | "It is intrinsically funny to turn a word into a set of commands that actually do something" |
| 20:48 | < Azash> | It's less haw haw haw and more of an "oh, that's cool", "oh that's weird", "oh, that's neat" series |
| 20:49 | <@macdjord> | Ah, okay. So no special relation between the words 'returnable', 'reliable', and 'saturnalia'. |
| 20:49 | <&McMartin> | ... other than that the latter is a command that will transform the first into the second, yes |
| 20:51 | <@macdjord> | Neat. |
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