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| 05:51 | <@celticminstrel> | I broke my stash. :( |
| 05:51 | <@celticminstrel> | 'git stash drop' -> '' is not a stash reference |
| 05:52 | <@celticminstrel> | (Accessing a specific one with stash@{1} etc works.) |
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| 15:16 | < Natanial> | TheWatcher: Morning |
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| 15:49 | < starkruzr> | So. Any chance I can get some Java help? I am trying to figure out how "tests" work. Not being a developer by trade this is all sort of new to me. I'm working with SauceLabs' Selenium example code (found here: https://github.com/saucelabs-sample-test-frameworks?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=java ) and trying to grok how exactly things are run. How does it know what class code to execute when there is no main() class? |
| 15:50 | < starkruzr> | And, why is it beneficial to use a "test" framework rather than simply running Selenium instructions and getting return values? |
| 15:51 | <@celmin|sleep> | Anyone know if there's a way to fix my stash without clearing it? |
| 15:52 | <@celmin|sleep> | starkruzr: The unit test framework defines the main() and uses annotations to determine which methods in your class to call. |
| 15:53 | < starkruzr> | Okay. |
| 15:53 | < starkruzr> | Where exactly is that supposed to happen? (i.e. in which file(s)?) |
| 15:54 | < starkruzr> | You do a "mvn test" in order to run all these tests. I'm just not clear why it's doing what it is. |
| 15:54 | <@celmin|sleep> | Eh, maven. :| |
| 15:55 | <@celmin|sleep> | The maven build script or whatever you call it can define "test" to do almost anything. |
| 16:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | starkruzr: the reason it's beneficial to do this is that it lets you automatically run tests and, if you desire, wire things into a broader automation framework; having a test framework also typically makes *writing* the tests easier by providing you with a selection of useful assertion and reporting APIs. |
| 16:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | (for a concrete example, when you try to submit a change here it automatically runs all tests affected by your change; if any fail, you can't submit until they're fixed.) |
| 16:06 | | * starkruzr is in fact trying to use this with Jenkins |
| 16:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | (and since the test framework provides a standardized format for reporting test results, it can then extract all that info and give you a web UI showing you exactly what failed and why, and so forth) |
| 16:08 | < starkruzr> | https://github.com/saucelabs-sample-test-frameworks/Java-Junit-Selenium/blob/mas ter/src/test/java/com/yourcompany/Tests/SampleSauceTextInputTest.java |
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| 16:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | starkruzr: But as for "where" -- somewhere in the test framework itself, which is presumably a jar. "mvn test" is probably doing something like running that jar and passing it a list of your classes/packages. It then inspects those to find test methods and calls them. |
| 16:10 | < starkruzr> | Yes, I think Maven knows specifically how to use jUnit. |
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| 16:26 | < starkruzr> | ToxicFrog: Can you tell from that code how it's getting the parameters from Maven? |
| 16:26 | < starkruzr> | And by "parameters," I mean it runs the tests multiple times for multiple platforms. |
| 16:26 | < starkruzr> | I can see stuff in the constructors for getting that from whatever spawns the instances. But I have no idea what's passing that to the constructors. |
| 16:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | starkruzr: that's going to be part of the maven/jenkins/junit configuration somewhere, not part of the unit tests. |
| 18:01 | <@iospace> | Would you call someone who is good with Bash a plumber? They're skilled with pipes. |
| 18:02 | <@celmin|sleep> | Ha ha. |
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| 19:13 | | * Derakon grumbles at his laptop. Stupid 800px vertical resolution. |
| 19:13 | <&Derakon> | There's not enough room to fit another panel into this dialog! |
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| 22:18 | <&McMartin> | http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2057 |
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| 22:21 | <&McMartin> | I'm not sure whether to be more surprised by this or by the existence of clearly very active Conway Life forums |
| 22:27 | <@TheWatcher> | ... with a decent interactive viewer plugged into the forums, no less. |
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| 22:42 | <@celticminstrel> | What does c/10 mean? |
| 22:42 | <@ErikMesoy> | Advances one cell per 10 generations. |
| 22:43 | <@ErikMesoy> | "c" in Life is a speed of one cell per generation, equivalent to our speed of light in that this is the hard limit on how fast it is physically possible to move. |
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| 22:44 | <@celticminstrel> | Ah. |
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| 22:49 | <~Vornicus> | the famous glider has a speed of c/4 diagonally; there's other spaceships with speed c/2 orthogonally. I don't think anyone's found anything faster than those |
| 22:55 | <@ErikMesoy> | c/2 is known to be the upper bound on unassisted spaceship speed. |
| 22:56 | <@ErikMesoy> | Faster assisted spaceships tend to shade into "destroy and reassemble further ahead" large patterns looking more like spaceship-fabricators than legit assists. :P |
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| 23:03 | <@Reiv> | c/2 being the limit does make sense; you can only affect the cells to each side after all |
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