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| 01:32 | <&McMartin> | ToxicFrog: To be fair |
| 01:32 | <&McMartin> | Windows has not been 16-bit capable since 7~ |
| 01:32 | <&McMartin> | (Really, since WinXP 64, but Win7 was when 64-bit became the default~) |
| 01:43 | <@celticminstrel> | I didn't think it was the default in Win7. |
| 01:45 | <~Vornicus> | It's technically not |
| 01:45 | <~Vornicus> | But win7 is when 64bit actually works all the way around |
| 01:48 | <@Reiv> | And so you started installing it on your 64-bit chips natively |
| 01:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | McMartin: and yet it is still shackled to this behaviour, presumably to support 32-bit win9x apps that depend on it. |
| 01:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | And Java, apparently. |
| 01:49 | <&McMartin> | Java's *installer* |
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| 04:13 | < [R]> | https://i.imgur.com/FMMuzU4.jpg |
| 04:16 | < Xires> | lol @ pic |
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| 09:08 | <@gnolam> | Hee |
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| 11:32 | < Azash> | http://thedailywtf.com/articles/bidding-on-security |
| 12:35 | <@mac> | Azash: ... that's horrifying. |
| 12:36 | <@mac> | (Brialliant, but horrifying.) |
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| 15:16 | < Natan> | Hello' |
| 15:26 | <@ErikMesoy> | Hi |
| 15:27 | <@Wulfric> | Welcome to zombo.com. |
| 15:28 | < Natan> | Playing Cards Against Humanity |
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| 17:56 | <~Vornicus> | Does someone here have outlook 2007-2013 set up? |
| 17:56 | < [R]> | Presumably |
| 17:57 | < [R]> | It's a rather popular piece of software |
| 17:57 | <~Vornicus> | I have to test some email code on it and it won't connect to either of my accounts |
| 18:00 | < [R]> | What errors is it spewing? |
| 18:02 | <~Vornicus> | outlook? For gmail it just doesn't accept the authentication - gmail said that I should turn off the thing that locks out less secure apps but that hasn't helped. For my work email it says the connection was refused. |
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| 18:03 | <~Vornicus> | (though I do have another imap connection to work email already set up from this machine) |
| 18:04 | <~Vornicus> | But I need to test this email; there's something wrong with the way it decides to render a particular part and the only thing I have right now is a screenshot that I can't retry making |
| 18:06 | < [R]> | Had it connected before? |
| 18:07 | <~Vornicus> | No. But I need to test on outlook 2013 or similar and so I tried setting it up |
| 18:08 | < [R]> | You follow directions somewhere or tried to guess your way through it? |
| 18:08 | <~Vornicus> | I was using the wizard thing. |
| 18:09 | <~Vornicus> | But when that didn't work I tried filling in the blanks in the connection form manualls with the known-good values from thunderbird but that didn't work either. |
| 18:09 | < [R]> | Thunderbird was configured to use the TLS versions of the protocols? |
| 18:10 | <~Vornicus> | Yes. That's probably why it failed |
| 18:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: what port, what protocol? IIRC outlook doesn't support (or perhaps defaults off) STARTTLS and instead expects SSL on weird ports |
| 18:14 | <~Vornicus> | I haven't found a starttls setting, for one thing. it won't let me get any further in without successfully setting up an email account, either, which is just dumb |
| 18:15 | <~Vornicus> | and imap, 143 |
| 18:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | Ok, outlook is going to expect plaintext on 143 or SSL on 993 |
| 18:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | Most modern mail servers will outright reject login attempts on 143 unless the connection is upgraded with STARTTLS first |
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| 21:48 | <@abudhabi> | http://www.wykop.pl/cdn/c3201142/comment_6nD7rnfJAnMoNZpmaErTqQTP1oR5LzLv,w400.j pg |
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| 23:08 | < [R]> | -*- StarThorn managed to make MS Access much more tolerable by installing PostgreSQL, setting up the ODBC drivers, and exporting the tables from Access to Postgres, so he can work on things in a non-crappy DB. |
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