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06:45 | | * McMartin wrote about a thousand lines of documentation today |
06:45 | <&McMartin> | Mostly turning decent but informal developer notes into something I could call reference material with a straight face |
06:49 | < Vornotron> | hooray |
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15:11 | | * TheWatcher finds a way he can do the authentication/authorisation stuff he needs to do without writing a jenkins plugin |
15:11 | <@TheWatcher> | And there was much rejoicing |
15:11 | <@TheWatcher> | (because seriously, wtf) |
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19:47 | | * TheWatcher pokes vaguely |
19:47 | <@TheWatcher> | Anyone have any preferred autotools tutorials? |
19:51 | <&ToxicFrog> | I know one by Alhazred et al, but it's a bit a tough read |
19:51 | <&ToxicFrog> | *a bit of a |
19:52 | <@Tamber> | It's about the best one out there, though. |
19:52 | <&McMartin> | I have the published book about autotools. It's useless. |
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19:55 | <@TheWatcher> | I'm fairly sure any resource probably will be, just looking for something to recommend to this student who is trying to use it as part of a pre-existing project |
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20:34 | < abudhabi> | [R]: I have managed to connect to the VNC. |
20:34 | < abudhabi> | Problem: There's just a terminal window in the remote screen, and it doesn't accept input, or show anything in the console area. |
20:36 | < abudhabi> | No, wait! |
20:36 | < abudhabi> | I got it. The thing just for some reason assumed black text on black background. |
20:40 | < abudhabi> | OK, right. The problem is still that the dang window manager apparently isn't running. |
21:16 | < abudhabi> | Sweet. It works. |
21:17 | < abudhabi> | I still haven't figured out how to start the damn thing automatically, but that probably won't come up too often. |
21:21 | < abudhabi> | Man, this is so much faster than this office use only laptop. |
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22:38 | | * Derakon bemuseds at something that is, thankfully, largely Someone Else's Problem. |
22:38 | <@TheWatcher> | ? |
22:39 | <&Derakon> | They have a Java plugin for µManager (our software) which, in certain repeatable circumstances, is unable to load a library it depends on. |
22:39 | <&Derakon> | The symptom is that you get a NoClassDefFoundError. |
22:39 | <&Derakon> | For a class, say it's named "FooClass". |
22:39 | <&Derakon> | And then you look at the stack trace from where the error originated, and about 20 calls up, you see FooClass.<init>. |
22:40 | <&Derakon> | In other words, the class' own constructor can't find itself. |
22:40 | <&Derakon> | How do you even get into that execution context? |
22:40 | <&Derakon> | (NB the "repeatable circumstances" boil down to "run inside a standalone install of µManager, as opposed to inside an IDE") |
22:43 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, you can get that if the class was available during compilation, but not at runtime. My guess would be a classpath problem. |
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22:44 | <&Derakon> | Wouldn't you then get NoClassDefFoundError when you tried to call the constructor? |
22:48 | <&Derakon> | My coworker points out that technically anyone can throw a NoClassDefFoundError, so it could just be that the weird class loader shenanigans (including use of BridJ, a cross-language library loading thing) is throwing a misleading error. |
22:48 | <@TheWatcher> | wait, what're FooClass' dependencies, and are all of them available? |
22:50 | <&Derakon> | Unknown; this is buried within an OpenCL compatibility layer or something like that. |
22:50 | <@TheWatcher> | Eeech |
22:50 | <&Derakon> | They should all be available. |
22:50 | <&Derakon> | It's just super weird to have Java say "Help I'm in FooClass' constructor and I can't find FooClass." |
22:53 | <@TheWatcher> | hey, java~ |
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