code logs -> 2015 -> Thu, 03 Dec 2015< code.20151202.log - code.20151204.log >
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06:45 * McMartin wrote about a thousand lines of documentation today
06:45
<&McMartin>
Mostly turning decent but informal developer notes into something I could call reference material with a straight face
06:49
< Vornotron>
hooray
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15:11 * TheWatcher finds a way he can do the authentication/authorisation stuff he needs to do without writing a jenkins plugin
15:11
<@TheWatcher>
And there was much rejoicing
15:11
<@TheWatcher>
(because seriously, wtf)
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19:47 * TheWatcher pokes vaguely
19:47
<@TheWatcher>
Anyone have any preferred autotools tutorials?
19:51
<&ToxicFrog>
I know one by Alhazred et al, but it's a bit a tough read
19:51
<&ToxicFrog>
*a bit of a
19:52
<@Tamber>
It's about the best one out there, though.
19:52
<&McMartin>
I have the published book about autotools. It's useless.
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<@TheWatcher>
I'm fairly sure any resource probably will be, just looking for something to recommend to this student who is trying to use it as part of a pre-existing project
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20:34
< abudhabi>
[R]: I have managed to connect to the VNC.
20:34
< abudhabi>
Problem: There's just a terminal window in the remote screen, and it doesn't accept input, or show anything in the console area.
20:36
< abudhabi>
No, wait!
20:36
< abudhabi>
I got it. The thing just for some reason assumed black text on black background.
20:40
< abudhabi>
OK, right. The problem is still that the dang window manager apparently isn't running.
21:16
< abudhabi>
Sweet. It works.
21:17
< abudhabi>
I still haven't figured out how to start the damn thing automatically, but that probably won't come up too often.
21:21
< abudhabi>
Man, this is so much faster than this office use only laptop.
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22:38 * Derakon bemuseds at something that is, thankfully, largely Someone Else's Problem.
22:38
<@TheWatcher>
?
22:39
<&Derakon>
They have a Java plugin for µManager (our software) which, in certain repeatable circumstances, is unable to load a library it depends on.
22:39
<&Derakon>
The symptom is that you get a NoClassDefFoundError.
22:39
<&Derakon>
For a class, say it's named "FooClass".
22:39
<&Derakon>
And then you look at the stack trace from where the error originated, and about 20 calls up, you see FooClass.<init>.
22:40
<&Derakon>
In other words, the class' own constructor can't find itself.
22:40
<&Derakon>
How do you even get into that execution context?
22:40
<&Derakon>
(NB the "repeatable circumstances" boil down to "run inside a standalone install of µManager, as opposed to inside an IDE")
22:43
<@TheWatcher>
Well, you can get that if the class was available during compilation, but not at runtime. My guess would be a classpath problem.
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22:44
<&Derakon>
Wouldn't you then get NoClassDefFoundError when you tried to call the constructor?
22:48
<&Derakon>
My coworker points out that technically anyone can throw a NoClassDefFoundError, so it could just be that the weird class loader shenanigans (including use of BridJ, a cross-language library loading thing) is throwing a misleading error.
22:48
<@TheWatcher>
wait, what're FooClass' dependencies, and are all of them available?
22:50
<&Derakon>
Unknown; this is buried within an OpenCL compatibility layer or something like that.
22:50
<@TheWatcher>
Eeech
22:50
<&Derakon>
They should all be available.
22:50
<&Derakon>
It's just super weird to have Java say "Help I'm in FooClass' constructor and I can't find FooClass."
22:53
<@TheWatcher>
hey, java~
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--- Log closed Fri Dec 04 00:00:52 2015
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