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| 01:21 | < Turaiel> | What's a good directory name for a collection of classes representing objects? |
| 01:31 | <&Derakon> | How do you mean, "classes representing objects"? |
| 01:34 | < Turaiel> | The classes map to database tables, I guess |
| 01:35 | < [R]> | ORM Bullshit |
| 01:36 | < Turaiel> | Eh? |
| 01:38 | < [R]> | ORM is the term for an automated toolset to enable lazy developers to produce horribly unoptimized SQL queries that spawn excessive objects as the tool maps tables<->classes and each instance is a single row. |
| 01:39 | < Turaiel> | That sounds awful |
| 01:43 | <&McMartin> | Developer Time: still more expensive than SQL time until you reach petabytes |
| 01:43 | <&McMartin> | That said: "model" |
| 01:43 | < Turaiel> | Ah yes |
| 01:43 | < Turaiel> | Thanks |
| 01:43 | < Turaiel> | It was escaping me |
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| 04:18 | < [R]> | WTF Gentoo. `/etc/init.d/net.eth0 start` is the command I issued. WHY IS FSCK RUNNING? |
| 04:35 | <@celticminstrel> | What does fsck do? |
| 04:36 | < [R]> | "Check Disk" |
| 04:42 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh, "filesystem check"? |
| 04:42 | < [R]> | Yeah |
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| 07:20 | <&McMartin> | Also, oh man |
| 07:20 | | * McMartin reads about the 1,024 CGA colors hack, actually understands it |
| 07:20 | <&McMartin> | INT++, SAN-- |
| 07:36 | <@froztbyte> | McMartin: yeah that was some really really good hacking |
| 07:36 | <@froztbyte> | I managed to mostly follow it even though I hadn't ever touched a C64 |
| 07:36 | <@froztbyte> | maybe a subtlety or two that I don't quite get, but hey |
| 08:00 | <&McMartin> | CGA is PC :) |
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| 09:45 | | * TheWatcher eyes that CGA trick, ...s |
| 09:46 | <@TheWatcher> | That's... horrible and yet awesome. |
| 10:01 | | * sshine is digging through PDFs. this is bad stuff. |
| 10:02 | < sshine> | I encountered a '\' followed by a CR. do any of you know if that means the same in PS/PDF as it does in various scripting languages? i.e. escape the CR to not mean a literal linebreak |
| 10:16 | <@TheWatcher> | AFAIK PDF uses postscript for layout and text, so it should follow postscript syntax |
| 10:54 | < sshine> | yeah |
| 10:54 | < sshine> | PS says to ignore it |
| 10:54 | < sshine> | PDF does too |
| 10:55 | < sshine> | only doubt: when PDF bytes are encoded as glyphs (so the bytes 'hello' are vectorized with the appropriate font), the question is if escape sequences are evaluated before, or '\' is just another byte. |
| 11:00 | < sshine> | why did I never choose PostScript as my language whenever a course said "you can pick any language"... |
| 11:15 | | * sshine is getting a PDF Badge of Honor at work! |
| 11:15 | < sshine> | oh, yeah, it seems that escape sequences are rendered first. that's only sensible. having a macro language redefine escape sequences is just nasty. |
| 11:16 | <@TheWatcher> | Does this badge of honour happen to consist of a picture of Great Cthulhu devouring a library? |
| 11:17 | < sshine> | I think I get to design the badge myself. great idea. it should be in PDF, of course. |
| 11:18 | < sshine> | <stockholm-syndrome>rendering PDF isn't all that bad.</stockholm-syndrome> |
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| 12:09 | < sshine> | for the C# code: byte b = (byte)'x'; bool p = b == (byte)'y'; why can I remove the second (byte) cast but not the first? |
| 12:10 | < sshine> | is this because == is overloaded? |
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| 12:23 | <&ToxicFrog> | sshine: byte b = 'x' is a lossy conversion; chars in C# are UTF-16 values. |
| 12:24 | <&ToxicFrog> | b == 'y' is a lossless comparison; the byte is upconverted to uint16_t and then compared to the char. |
| 12:24 | <&ToxicFrog> | b == (byte)'y' is actually not the same thing, AIUI; the 'y' is downconverted to a uint8_t (losing the top 8 bits!) and then compared to b. |
| 12:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | This will give you different results from the castless version if the character is outside ASCII. |
| 12:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | So, the cast is mandatory in the first case because downcasting requires explicit acknowledgement, and optional in the second case because both forms are valid and do different things. |
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| 13:00 | < sshine> | ToxicFrog, thanks! |
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| 19:20 | <@celticminstrel> | Why do I keep getting "Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge" when I try to pull --rebase? |
| 19:21 | <@celticminstrel> | The files listed after that are always files that were altered by the commit being applied, not ones that have uncommited local changes. |
| 19:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: well, they will be changes altered by the commit being applied that also have uncomitted local changes |
| 19:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | Are you sure they were clean before you did the pull? |
| 19:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | Also, if you're on not-linux, are you sure there isn't some line ending (windows) or file case (windows or osx) wackiness going on? |
| 19:33 | <@celticminstrel> | Yes, the working copy was clean. |
| 19:33 | <@celticminstrel> | I suppose there could be some line-ending wackiness... |
| 19:34 | <@celticminstrel> | I don't see why there'd be file case issues. |
| 19:34 | <@celticminstrel> | I know I've been tripped up by line-ending wackiness before on Windows with autocrlf. |
| 19:35 | <@celticminstrel> | Is there a quick way to check for line-ending wackiness in many files? |
| 19:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | File case issues: you have 'foo' locally and tracked, commit you're checking out has both 'foo' and 'Foo', git considers those distinct, filesystem doesn't, git gets confused. |
| 19:36 | <@celticminstrel> | Ah. |
| 19:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | Probably, but I don't know what it is. autocrlf is confusing. |
| 19:36 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm not using autocrlf here though, this is on OSX. |
| 19:36 | <@celticminstrel> | I have it set on my Windows git. |
| 19:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah. On OSX you probably don't need to worry about line endings, just file case. |
| 19:37 | <@celticminstrel> | Hmm. |
| 19:38 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm not sure this helps me figure out why it's happening though. |
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| 19:42 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh, other possibility |
| 19:42 | <&ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: Working copy is "clean", but includes untracked (or even gitignored!) files that are committed upstream. |
| 19:43 | <@celticminstrel> | There is one untracked file, but it's not committed or ignored. |
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| 20:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | I've got nothing, then |
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| 20:29 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh well. |
| 20:30 | <@celticminstrel> | It never seems to happen when cherry-picking single commits, even if it's the same commit. |
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| 21:19 | <@celticminstrel> | There was a file deleted by the commits I was pulling, and somehow it ended up being listed as an untracked file. I wonder if that was somehow the culprit. |
| 21:21 | <&ToxicFrog> | Probably. |
| 21:25 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm not sure if that explains the other times it happened. |
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| 22:34 | < dev> | penis |
| 22:34 | < dev> | is good |
| 22:34 | < dev> | <-- m |
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| 22:36 | < [R]> | ... |
| 22:38 | <@Tamber> | But don't think with it, or you'll end up like that idiot~ |
| 22:38 | <@froztbyte> | Tamber: only at peak evolution |
| 22:39 | <&McMartin> | "There was zero coverage of this particular game online, even at the usual suspect places, but (to quote a certain bunch of mean, green, caterpillar-like alien overlords) you will note that this oversight has been rectified: I added a MobyGames entry for it." |
| 22:40 | <@gnolam> | The gun is good. The penis is evil. |
| 22:42 | <@froztbyte> | McMartin: wut |
| 23:14 | <@Alek> | the pen is mightier. |
| 23:24 | <@JustBob> | There's a caveat to that. |
| 23:24 | <@JustBob> | Only if the sword is very, very small, and the pen is very sharp. |
| 23:27 | <@Reiv> | I don't know |
| 23:27 | <@Reiv> | The Japanese used swords in WWII enough |
| 23:27 | <@Reiv> | I think I would be more scared of Roosevelt's signature on a particular document... |
| 23:32 | <@JustBob> | Your ignorance of Pratchett is showing, good sir. |
| 23:32 | <@JustBob> | http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/terrypratc385870.html |
| 23:33 | <@Reiv> | JustBob: I'm aware of the quote |
| 23:33 | <@Reiv> | I am refuting it in the best traditions of FLEET |
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