code logs -> 2015 -> Tue, 26 May 2015< code.20150525.log - code.20150527.log >
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<@celticminstrel>
Ah.
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<@celticminstrel>
Well, like I said, I think you wanted "count".
00:09 * catalyst nibbles on meat and considers going to bed
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<~Vornicus>
meeeaaaaaaat
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<~Vornicus>
aaaaarg, goddammit, why do none of these things make it go faster
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17:41 * Derakon sighs at Java.
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<&Derakon>
If you want to save user settings across sessions of your program, Java provides the Preferences object, which you can store data in.
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<&Derakon>
You typically access it via the static method Preferences.userNodeForPackage(myClass.class);
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<&Derakon>
Which acts as a convenient unique key.
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<&Derakon>
This works great...until you refactor your code and that class no longer exists.
17:42
<&Derakon>
There appears to be no other way to access Preferences.
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<&Derakon>
I can't say "look for a Preferences node at org.micromanager.MMStudio, it'll totally be there" unless I actually have an MMStudio.class I can pass in.
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<&Derakon>
...oh, wait, StackOverflow came through. Preferences.userRoot() will get you the root node for all Preferences, and then you can manually traverse the tree from there.
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<&Derakon>
Well, except that the class I'm expecting to see isn't there. What the hell.
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<&Derakon>
Oh, right, nevermind; Preferences just treats leaves differently from nodes.
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18:38
< abudhabi>
jerith: What's happening over there with the power plants?
18:41
<&jerith>
abudhabi: They haven't built new ones for decades and haven't maintained existing ones properly for years.
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< abudhabi>
jerith: I hear that they've declared a rotating scheme of who doesn't get power for any given day.
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<&jerith>
It's 2 or 4 hour slots (depending on where you live), but more or less.
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<@gnolam>
Eskom?
--- Log closed Tue May 26 19:30:00 2015
--- Log opened Tue May 26 19:30:15 2015
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< VirusJTG>
looks like it was a driver
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<@gnolam>
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2015/05/25/10616865.aspx
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<@gnolam>
(http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2015/05/26/10617079.aspx )
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< VirusJTG>
one more reboot
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<&Derakon>
gnolam: I can't help but feel that the operators should have been -~foo and +~foo
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<&Derakon>
Instead of -~foo and ~-foo
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<&Derakon>
Of course, then the demo code wouldn't have worked~
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<@Checkmate>
Dera: I think it'd be better if it was ~-foo / ~+foo. Also tilde is bothersome to access on some keyboards.
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<&McMartin>
"~-foo" already means "one's complement of negative foo"
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<&McMartin>
Though I guess -~foo might also mean negative one's complement
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< catalyst>
._o
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<@Checkmate>
You have three quotation marks.
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<&Derakon>
McM: yeah, the source of the amusement in gnolam's links is that the code actually works as bog-standard C using -~ and ~- to rearrange the order in which the negation and complement operations happen.
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<@gnolam>
Honestly, the biggest source of amusement is how readily people believe they'd implement those operators.~
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<&Derakon>
Now I'm imagining a language that allows you to invent your own operator syntax by specifying a regex that matches the operator and a method for processing it.
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<&Derakon>
You'd have to get compiler errors for insufficiently-precise regexes though. That could be tricky.
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<&Derakon>
(And for regex conflicts, of course)
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<&jerith>
Derakon: Many functional languages do that.
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<&jerith>
Usually with some rules (first character, for example) to determine precedence and associativity.
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<&jerith>
Well, not with regexes.
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