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| 00:01 | <~Vornicus> | tyhought you'd gotten something down to like a few seconds though |
| 00:03 | <~Vornicus> | oh I see. 60 was 8 seconds and then 80 took an age |
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| 00:07 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, and then 45 was a fraction of a second, like you'd expect. |
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| 01:35 | <~Vornicus> | Looks like chaining actually doesn't get you anywhere |
| 01:36 | <~Vornicus> | well, not very far - you never go back, there's never a situation where you dirty a number you've already cleaned |
| 01:38 | <~Vornicus> | But there are several multiples of 3 and 5 that get removed |
| 01:42 | <~Vornicus> | So you go from, uh, jesus, the 3 takes a long time to do |
| 01:53 | <~Vornicus> | you drop 7 items from the list of multiples of 3; this reduces your powerset search 128-fold |
| 01:59 | <~Vornicus> | (it continues to ponder) |
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| 02:04 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, 3's list is frickin' gigantic |
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| 02:04 | <~Vornicus> | there's 64 million things it goes through if you *don't* cull in descending order |
| 02:04 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 02:04 | <~Vornicus> | and half a million if you do. |
| 02:05 | <&McMartin> | And that turns out to still be a lot, given the task. |
| 02:05 | <~Vornicus> | and then that filters down to only about 1600 total possible three-sets |
| 02:05 | <~Vornicus> | yeah, lots of divisions'nshit to do |
| 02:05 | <&McMartin> | 153 I've had about three or four little insights while putting it together, so I'm keeping my mouth shut on this one >_> |
| 02:06 | <~Vornicus> | what, 153 builds on this? |
| 02:07 | <~Vornicus> | (I should actually get back to doing these in order; I have 137 on the hopper and I've forgotten why I stopped) |
| 02:07 | <&McMartin> | No, 153 is totally different |
| 02:08 | <~Vornicus> | I wish I could actually -- thing I want is a high performance fractions lib that I can tell "don't reduce until I'm done" |
| 02:12 | <~Vornicus> | wow, this is taking ages |
| 02:13 | <&McMartin> | Like I said, mine took a full hour |
| 02:13 | <&McMartin> | Hmm |
| 02:13 | <&McMartin> | Actually, half an hour, but I made a dumb error and had to rerun |
| 02:16 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, I think I have a solution for 153. I've done the case for n=5 with pencil and paper, and then I can whip up the 10^5 case as the machine check case, and then I can proceed to the full 10^8 case. |
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| 02:20 | <~Vornicus> | STILL THINKING |
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| 02:28 | <~Vornicus> | definitely it's this phase that takes up the time. You only have 64 power-of-two tuples to go through once you get here. |
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| 02:31 | <~Vornicus> | I'm also working in Python so this doesn't help my performance |
| 02:35 | <&McMartin> | You don't even need to do the power-of-two tuple thing, really |
| 02:35 | <&McMartin> | You can precompute those sums to get targets for your other things to hit. |
| 02:36 | | * McMartin does some brute-force factorization to see how bad an idea it is. |
| 02:36 | <&McMartin> | (probably p. bad) |
| 02:39 | <~Vornicus> | Right! I give up, I'm not watching that run. |
| 02:39 | <~Vornicus> | I really need to get a C environment going |
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| 03:10 | < ToxicFrog> | So I've now finished recording my DoomRL run for the LP Roguelikes Megathread. |
| 03:10 | < ToxicFrog> | Now I want to write the posts to go with it. |
| 03:10 | < ToxicFrog> | This, of course, requires using my LP compiler and oh god this code is awful, I need to rewrite it. |
| 03:12 | <&Derakon> | The perils of being a programmer~ |
| 03:13 | <&Derakon> | The code I wrote for the Angband LP consisted of a web scraper / uploader / text parser. It'd find tags in the LP text and replace them with image links to the appropriate image on lpix. |
| 03:14 | < ToxicFrog> | Mine is meant to do that but I can't remember if I ever finished implementing the lpix module. |
| 03:15 | < ToxicFrog> | I didn't actually need it when I was writing it because I was using my own hosting for the images. |
| 03:15 | <&Derakon> | Well, I'd offer you my code but it's all horrible~ |
| 03:15 | < ToxicFrog> | But it also does a lot more besides, like emitting both HTML and BBCode versions of each post, and having streamlined support for [mugshot][text] layouts and a macro system. |
| 03:15 | < ToxicFrog> | Unfortunately I neglected to write any documentation or comment most of this >.< |
| 03:16 | < ToxicFrog> | The way it handles loading modules is kind of weird, enough that I want to rewrite it, but I'm trying to figure out if (a) that actually wins me anything and (b) if there was actually a good reason for doing it that way. |
| 03:16 | <&Derakon> | Well, okay, here's the URL scraper script. http://pastebin.com/RNQ73MpP |
| 03:17 | < ToxicFrog> | Basically, each file it processes has an implicit \use[init] at the start, which defines various useful functions like \def and \include (and \use itself). |
| 03:18 | < ToxicFrog> | init processes all the macros it knows about, replacing them with their expansions; for \use specifically it adds the name of that module to a list. |
| 03:18 | < ToxicFrog> | Once it's done processing, it goes through that list in order and processes each of its macros in turn. |
| 03:18 | <&Derakon> | This sounds complicated. |
| 03:19 | < ToxicFrog> | This is fairly unintuitive; I would have expected it to load each \used module immediately upon seeing it, making its macros visible. |
| 03:20 | < ToxicFrog> | Yeah, it is. |
| 03:21 | < ToxicFrog> | The one thing I can see that this buys me is that it lets me save the entire document state before a given module runs, and then restore it afterwards |
| 03:21 | <&Derakon> | I guess that makes debugging easier. |
| 03:21 | < ToxicFrog> | So if I end a document with: \push \use[lpix] \use[bbcode] \out[.bbcode] \pop \push \use[html] \out[.html] \pop |
| 03:21 | < Reiv_> | That's a pretty big deal if a post ends up borked due to a glitchy module |
| 03:21 | < ToxicFrog> | Then that properly emits both bbcode and html versions. |
| 03:22 | <&Derakon> | But presumably glitchy modules are only glitchy during development, and once the system is stable you don't really need that functionality so much. |
| 03:22 | < Reiv_> | Depends how much you don't keep tweaking it~ |
| 03:22 | < ToxicFrog> | It also means that it doesn't matter where a \use appears, its functions are available throughout the document. |
| 03:22 | < ToxicFrog> | Whether that's good or bad is up for debate~ |
| 03:23 | < ToxicFrog> | And I could possibly scrap this system and replace the above push/pop thing with something like: |
| 03:24 | < ToxicFrog> | \ifelse[html][\use[html]][\use[lpix] \use[bbcode]] |
| 03:24 | < ToxicFrog> | And then add command line options so you can lpc --set html=true --out foo.html foo.txt |
| 03:25 | <&Derakon> | IIRC my system broadly consisted of "uploadToLpix.pl `find update40 -name "*png"`; fixPost.pl update40" |
| 03:25 | <&Derakon> | And then I'd have a file containing the BBCode that I could paste into the forums. |
| 03:25 | < ToxicFrog> | And just run it twice, once for html and once for bbcode, rather than having the document know how to generate its output formats directly. |
| 03:26 | | * ToxicFrog contemplates |
| 03:27 | < ToxicFrog> | That's a really ugly way of doing conditionals, though :/ |
| 03:28 | < ToxicFrog> | Maybe just: lpc -lhtml -o foo.html foo.txt; lpc -llpix -lbbcode -o foo.bbcode foo.txt |
| 03:28 | <&Derakon> | Yeah. |
| 03:28 | <&Derakon> | I'd go with that last one personally. |
| 03:28 | < ToxicFrog> | This does mean that if you forget to specify -llpix you get garbage [img] tags in your bbcode, though |
| 03:29 | <&Derakon> | So don't do that then~ |
| 03:29 | < ToxicFrog> | Eh, acceptable risk |
| 03:29 | < ToxicFrog> | Ok |
| 03:29 | < ToxicFrog> | Time to warm up the refactor tractor |
| 03:35 | < ToxicFrog> | ...hmm. |
| 03:35 | < ToxicFrog> | So, modules can define a PRE function. |
| 03:35 | < ToxicFrog> | This is meant to run on the complete text before any macroexpansion occurs. |
| 03:36 | <&Derakon> | It occurs to me to wonder how much of this functionality you actually used. |
| 03:37 | < ToxicFrog> | Some of them rely on it fairly heavily, e.g. the 'mugshots' module turns /^Asha: HONK HONK$/ into \mugshot[Asha][HONK HONK], and then defines \mugshot to turn into the correct \img tag and text formatting rules. |
| 03:37 | < ToxicFrog> | The behaviour I just described was used for every single update in LP Septerra Core. |
| 03:37 | <&Derakon> | Yeah, sure. |
| 03:37 | < ToxicFrog> | This tool was basically written as I needed new features for that LP; the only thing in it that wasn't used in production was lpix support. |
| 03:37 | <&Derakon> | But you built a ton of "platform" capabilities into this thing. |
| 03:38 | < ToxicFrog> | It was a lot messier in its early incarnations, but as I added more features I also reworked it to make it easier to add more features. |
| 03:38 | < ToxicFrog> | This was the end result. |
| 03:39 | < ToxicFrog> | And I'm open to suggestions on how to implement functionality like what I just described without ugly hacks like PRE :P |
| 03:40 | <&Derakon> | My approach was basically to just define my own simple markup language that my script interpreted. |
| 03:40 | <&Derakon> | So a tag like [img 40] got replaced by [img]http://path/to/lpix/image/40/for/this/update[/img] |
| 03:41 | < ToxicFrog> | Yeah, I have \img for that. And then \ss[40] turns into \img[screenshots/40] which turns into an actual URL appropriate to the output format. |
| 03:41 | < ToxicFrog> | What PRE was mostly defined for was supporting things that didn't fall into the normal syntax of the language. |
| 03:41 | <&Derakon> | For re-used images I had an "emot" directory on lpix, so I could do [emot black101] for example. |
| 03:41 | <~Vornicus> | HONK HONK |
| 03:41 | <&Derakon> | That was mostly because I ran into the emoticon limit on a few posts. |
| 03:41 | < ToxicFrog> | e.g. smilies (which are passed through to bbcode unmodified but need to be turned into \img for HTML) or the "Foo: bar" dialog transcript lines. |
| 03:41 | <&Derakon> | But a similar approach could have been adapted for mugshots. |
| 03:42 | < ToxicFrog> | Because I didn't want to write an actual tag sequence for each line of dialogue. |
| 03:42 | <&Derakon> | Well, you could easily have just had tags for each character, [charname happy] etc. |
| 03:42 | < ToxicFrog> | In retrospect that last may have been mostly wasted effort because apart from FMV transcripts, all of the dialogue was emitted by a program anyways~ |
| 03:43 | <&Derakon> | Heh. |
| 03:43 | < ToxicFrog> | (I'm still quite proud of that) |
| 03:43 | <&Derakon> | Yeah, the OCR stuff was pretty impressive. |
| 03:44 | < ToxicFrog> | Also, I kind of like your syntax more and may steal it~ |
| 03:44 | < ToxicFrog> | Although, how does it handle passing in multiple arguments, some of which contain whitespace? |
| 03:45 | <&Derakon> | It never had to~ |
| 03:47 | < ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
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| 03:53 | <~Vornicus> | hoorgb. |
| 03:57 | <&Derakon> | My general philosophy for these kinds of one-off programs is that I'm perfectly happy to adapt my behavior to fit what's easy to implement. |
| 04:00 | < ToxicFrog> | LP Septerra Core was ~10k lines. |
| 04:00 | < ToxicFrog> | At that size it's worth spending a bit more time on the implementation, IMO. |
| 04:01 | <&Derakon> | LP Angband was 25k lines, once formatted for BBCode. |
| 04:01 | <&Derakon> | Now, a lot of those lines were blank. |
| 04:01 | <&Derakon> | But on the other hand, every paragraph was a single line as well. |
| 04:02 | < ToxicFrog> | 10k lines is the input size, but the output was actually very nearly the same size. |
| 04:07 | < ToxicFrog> | Hmm. Ok, it looks like the main place I depend on multiple arguments is \mugshot and \use (in the latter case it's used for passing in arguments to the loaded module, e.g. username/pass for the lpix module) |
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| 04:11 | < ToxicFrog> | Hmm. Maybe I could make each macro a (name, argc, body) tuple rather than just (name, body); the first (argc-1) words are taken as the first (argc-1) args and everything else as the final arg. |
| 04:11 | < ToxicFrog> | That means you can only have whitespace in trailing position, but I don't think that's a problem. |
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| 04:17 | <&McMartin> | I have made several errors. |
| 04:17 | <&McMartin> | One such error was not memoizing the shit out of everything |
| 04:32 | < ToxicFrog> | Hmm. |
| 04:32 | < ToxicFrog> | A naiive approach turns [b foo] into [b]foo[/b] |
| 04:32 | < ToxicFrog> | It then sees the [b] and tries to re-expand it |
| 04:32 | < ToxicFrog> | Eventually it runs out stack frames |
| 04:32 | <&Derakon> | Heh. |
| 04:33 | < ToxicFrog> | \b[...] has the virtue of not colliding with any of the output formats, at least~ |
| 04:33 | <&Derakon> | Use curlies, maybe? |
| 04:34 | < ToxicFrog> | Curlies are aggravating to type. |
| 04:34 | < ToxicFrog> | Hmm. I guess I could make it smart enough not to expand things with fewer arguments than required, and make [b] require an argument... |
| 04:34 | < ToxicFrog> | Oh, but that fails on quote |
| 04:35 | < ToxicFrog> | ...or no, wait, that turns into [quote=foo]bar[/quote], which is a-ok |
| 04:36 | < ToxicFrog> | (the darkside way is to have it emit [\0b] or similar and then strip the nuls just before saving, but that's filthy) |
| 04:36 | < ToxicFrog> | (I guess I could add some way of escaping the [ and ]. That might be useful in general, actually.) |
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| 04:46 | | * McMartin reorganizes his code, checks the results against the trivial examples, then deploys 1.5GB of RAM for memoization purposes and really puts it to work. |
| 04:51 | < Reiv_> | [b foo] is an argument surely |
| 04:52 | < ToxicFrog> | Reiv_: yeah, but [b] isn't |
| 04:52 | < ToxicFrog> | Anyways, I solved it by adding an actual escaping mechanism |
| 04:52 | < ToxicFrog> | [\foo] gets turned into [foo] without any parsing or reexpansion happening |
| 04:53 | < Reiv_> | aha |
| 04:53 | < Reiv_> | For those days you want to quote something |
| 04:53 | < ToxicFrog> | Which is every day when you're emitting bbcode |
| 04:53 | < ToxicFrog> | So bold is now function(text) return '[\\b]%s[\\/b]' % text end |
| 04:54 | < ToxicFrog> | Anyways, slep now |
| 04:54 | < Reiv_> | ni |
| 04:56 | <&McMartin> | Score! |
| 05:01 | | * McMartin solves #153. |
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| 05:24 | <~Vornicus> | Why did I think that "how tall is Imhotep?" was a Pratchett reference instead of a Look Around You reference? |
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| 08:39 | < abudhabi> | What's the name of those hashtag thingies in HTML pages that you can navigate to internally? |
| 08:39 | < abudhabi> | Without changing the page. |
| 08:40 | <&McMartin> | anchors |
| 08:40 | < abudhabi> | Thanks. |
| 08:41 | < catadroid> | sometimes I feel this anchor just weeeighs me down... |
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| 09:06 | | * McMartin works on computing how many coefficients of the expanded-out version of (x+y+z)^200000 are exact multiples of one trillion. |
| 09:06 | <&McMartin> | Mad Math: Theorem Road |
| 09:08 | <&McMartin> | "You are the 1548th person to solve this problem." |
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| 10:58 | < catadroid`> | I'm attempting to solve too many problems at once |
| 10:59 | <@TheWatcher> | In that case, avoid using regular expressions~ |
| 11:00 | <@Tamber> | "...now you have (expt n 2) problems" |
| 11:13 | <@gnolam> | abudhabi: ... hashtag... thingies... |
| 11:16 | < abudhabi> | gnolam: Yes, comrade? |
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| 11:28 | < abudhabi> | This day, I'm pretending to be a graphics designer, layout developer and a marketer all at once. |
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| 13:15 | | * Wizard leaves elevator with friend as two others walk in, last thing heard before doors close is "the thing is, multithreading is for faggots --" |
| 13:16 | <@Tarinaky> | D: |
| 13:16 | < abudhabi> | Wizard: Lolz. |
| 13:22 | < catadroid> | ._o |
| 13:22 | < catadroid> | uncool |
| 13:24 | <&ToxicFrog> | v. |
| 13:24 | <@Wizard> | It doesn't have as negative a tone in Finnish, but agreed |
| 13:29 | <@froztbyte> | what use would cigarettes have for multithreading? |
| 13:31 | < abudhabi> | froztbyte: http://i.imgur.com/KHfPDep.png |
| 13:32 | <@froztbyte> | abudhabi: 5 points |
| 13:32 | <@Wizard> | froztbyte: Consider cigarettes to be threads instead |
| 13:32 | <@Wizard> | The pack is the pool |
| 13:32 | <@froztbyte> | Wizard: I believe you're missing my trollhat |
| 13:32 | <@Wizard> | I'm just picking up on it |
| 13:32 | <@froztbyte> | as a wizard, I would've expected you to be better with hats~ |
| 13:32 | | * froztbyte --disappoint-grump |
| 13:33 | <@Wizard> | I think most cigarette implementations are bad, though |
| 13:33 | <@Wizard> | When the cig pool is under heavy load it very easily starts shutting cigarettes down with SIGBENT |
| 13:34 | <@froztbyte> | *snrk* |
| 13:34 | <@Wizard> | Oh, I typoed |
| 13:34 | <@Wizard> | Obviously it would be CIGBENT |
| 13:34 | < catalyst> | hurr |
| 13:35 | <@Wizard> | Many people leave their cigarettes in an idle state, though |
| 13:35 | <@Wizard> | Only to be awakened by CIGPIPE |
| 13:36 | <@Wizard> | Client support for CIGSTOP also tends to present significant issues |
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| 13:43 | <@gnolam> | Wohoo! Get to do fun stuff again. |
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| 14:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hmm. Should it expand stuff in the arguments to a macro before it expands the macro itself? |
| 15:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | It seems like that would be desireable, since then you can do things like [use lpix name=ToxicFrog pass=[config-get lpix-password]] |
| 15:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh, but that results in horrors: |
| 15:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | [url www.google.ca [b Google]] |
| 15:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | => [url www.google.ca [\b]Google[\/b]] |
| 15:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | Unescaping happens at macroexpansion time, so |
| 15:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | => [url www.google.ca [b]Google[/b]] |
| 15:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | => [\url=www.google.ca][b]Google[/b][\/url] |
| 15:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | At this point the output gets re-expanded; the url tags get unescaped, but then it finds [b] and interprets that as a zero-arg [b] macro rather than as verbatim output and chokes. |
| 15:10 | <@froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: E_CHAN? |
| 15:10 | <@froztbyte> | or what? |
| 15:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | froztbyte: what? |
| 15:11 | <@froztbyte> | did you mean to type that here, I mean |
| 15:11 | <@froztbyte> | since it seems somewhat apropos |
| 15:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yes. (That would be ECHAN. Or possibly SIGCHAN.) |
| 15:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | Context is about twelve hours ago. |
| 15:11 | <@froztbyte> | not if you dealt with routers~ |
| 15:15 | <&ToxicFrog> | froztbyte: anyways, last night I was talking about lpc with Derakon, this is a continuation of that based on things I though of overnight/on my way to work |
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| 15:16 | <@froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: ah, I see |
| 15:20 | < catadroid> | I'm worried that this code is ridiculously under optimised |
| 15:20 | | * catadroid crosses her toes |
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| 15:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | catadroid: to the profilemobile! |
| 15:32 | | * Wizard is reminded of the existence of rubyprof, hisses |
| 15:32 | < catadroid> | psh profiling this requires me to actually produce content |
| 15:33 | < catadroid> | what do you think I am, some sort of designer? x) |
| 15:35 | <@Wizard> | I'm slightly confused as to what's going on with defaultValue http://docs.spring.io/spring/docs/current/javadoc-api/org/springframework/web/bi nd/annotation/RequestParam.html |
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| 18:05 | < catadroid`> | THIS CODE IS HORRIBLE SCREW THIS I'M OUT |
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| 19:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hmm. Potentially awesome idea: [ttyframe <ttyrec file> <timestamp or frame number>] to extract screenshots directly from the ttyrec. |
| 19:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | But how to implement it? |
| 19:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | ttyplay and termplay are too primitive. |
| 19:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | ipbt is powerful enough, but chokes on colour, at least as used by doomRL. |
| 19:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | And then you still have the problem of turning the terminal output from that program into an image! |
| 19:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | Ideas: |
| 19:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | - parse the ttyrec content in lua (the ttyrec format is dead simple, the actual control codes are harder) and emit PNGs or something using an image rendering library |
| 19:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | - as above, but emit postscript and pipe it through gs and let it render the image for us |
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| 19:46 | <&ToxicFrog> | "ttyrec2gif" requires comically huge amounts of memory to process doomrl ttyrecs, even after doomrl-server has fixed them up, but might be usable with modification. |
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| 20:00 | < simon_> | catalyst, pretty cool IP address. |
| 20:03 | < catalyst> | muh? |
| 20:03 | | * catalyst assumes her housemate setup something cool |
| 20:07 | <@Alek> | apparently you're connecting via ARPA. :P |
| 20:08 | < catalyst> | excellent |
| 20:09 | <@Tamber> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.arpa |
| 20:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | simon_, Alek: anything ending with ".in-addr.arpa" is a pseudo-address used for reverse name resolution |
| 20:18 | | * Alek should probably understand that, but for some reason isn't... |
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| 23:04 | < simon_> | ToxicFrog, right... it occurred to me that I didn't really know why they sometimes occur, so I looked up their relation to regular addresses. |
| 23:04 | < simon_> | ToxicFrog, basically I can set my reverse lookup to whatever .in-addr.arpa matches it, right? |
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| 23:50 | <&McMartin> | OK, this next project euler problem looks un-fun |
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