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| 06:03 | | * Reiv_ bangs his head against mutually exclusive coding styles. |
| 06:03 | <&McMartin> | ? |
| 06:04 | < Reiv_> | My task is trivial. |
| 06:04 | < Reiv_> | http://pastebin.starforge.co.uk/685 |
| 06:05 | < Reiv_> | "Could we get that to display both active and inactive numbers so we can run percentages etc on them?" |
| 06:05 | < Reiv_> | Were it my code, it would be literally one more line and a single column name added to the GROUP BY or PARTITION BY statement of the bloody thing ¬¬ |
| 06:07 | < Reiv_> | I'm actually wondering if this has a similar alteration even possible, or if it's a major rewrite |
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| 07:12 | | * abudhabi puts a grep in his grep so he can grep while he greps. |
| 07:14 | < kourbou> | lol |
| 07:14 | < kourbou> | Grepception |
| 07:15 | <&McMartin> | Technically, I think that might just be "actually using backreferences" |
| 07:17 | <&jerith> | I have used regex search/replace on parts of scripts that do regex search/replace. |
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| 08:51 | < Erik> | Today, I get a glimpse behind the scenes in how vastly overdimensioned resumes get created. |
| 08:51 | < catadroid> | hm? |
| 08:52 | < abudhabi> | Overdimensioned? |
| 08:53 | < Erik> | I have a root job as an IT consultant. My last subjob was going to work at some other company, which had an internal wiki, with information on it. No big surprise there. |
| 08:54 | < Erik> | After I get back from that subjob, my root boss says I should update my resume and add "Confluence" to my list of competencies. |
| 08:54 | < Erik> | This is a surprise because I have never fucking heard of Confluence. |
| 08:54 | < Erik> | Turns out that the subjob company was using Confluence to power its wiki and collaboration software. |
| 08:55 | < Erik> | I try telling my boss that this is like billing me as having experience in bookbinding because I read a book. Reading a wiki does not give me any particular competence at the software used to power it. |
| 08:56 | < Erik> | Next up, boss thinks he's being haggled down, and tries to come back with a lesser claim of "using" Confluence. Several months' experience using it. |
| 08:57 | < Erik> | I insist that this is going to get me assigned to jobs I cannot do, and he shouldn't confuse "Looked things up on a wiki" with experience with the software driving that wiki. |
| 08:58 | < abudhabi> | Solution: Learn Confluence. |
| 08:59 | < Erik> | He's backed off putting it on my resume for now, but I'm still getting questions along the lines of "Erik, surely if you were using that particular type of wiki, that would give you some experience with the sort of thing Confluence produces, right?" |
| 09:05 | <@Wizard> | No |
| 09:05 | <@Wizard> | Never learn Confluence |
| 09:05 | <@Wizard> | Whatever you do, don't |
| 09:05 | <@Wizard> | You do not want that stone hung on your skillset |
| 09:06 | <@Wizard> | Advise him that using Confluence is acceptable with mild undertones of aggravation but is separate from scripting or programming for confluence, which is terrible |
| 09:50 | <@TheWatcher> | Oh gods, Confluence |
| 09:50 | | * TheWatcher shudders |
| 09:50 | < catadroid> | that word just means 'five colour pain land' to me ^^ |
| 09:51 | <@Tarinaky> | Why? |
| 09:52 | <@TheWatcher> | You got colours? To me it was a black-and-white depressing French arthouse film of madness and despair. |
| 09:56 | < catadroid> | because mana confluence is an mtg card :d |
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| 10:06 | | * abudhabi plays the Door to Nothingness. |
| 11:20 | <@Wizard> | http://pastebin.com/GjxFkKPu |
| 11:20 | <@Wizard> | Who's up for a little PHP puzzle? |
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| 11:46 | <@TheWatcher> | Wizard: what puzzle? |
| 11:46 | <@TheWatcher> | That matches the behaviour stated for both array_merge and + in php |
| 11:47 | <@TheWatcher> | with +; "for keys that exist in both arrays, the elements from the left-hand array will be used, and the matching elements from the right-hand array will be ignored." |
| 11:47 | <@TheWatcher> | as the keys in $bar match the ones in $foo, the $bar elements will be ignored. |
| 11:48 | <@TheWatcher> | array_merge does different things depending on whether keys are numeric or string, on a per-element basis |
| 11:49 | <@TheWatcher> | Change it to '$foo = [0 => 'foo0', '1' => 'foo1', '02' => 'foo2']; $bar = [0 => 'bar0', '1' => 'bar1', '02' => 'bar2'];' and you can see it behave as described on http://php.net/manual/en/function.array-merge.php |
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| 12:04 | <@Wizard> | http://hextechsecurity.com/?p=123 |
| 12:04 | <@Wizard> | TheWatcher: The puzzle was for someone who doesn't have the prerequisite knowledge to guess what happens |
| 12:14 | | * TheWatcher eyes that page |
| 12:14 | <@TheWatcher> | ... |
| 12:17 | <@TheWatcher> | They may as well have printed instructions for hackign iton the back, sheesh |
| 12:41 | < abudhabi> | Hmmm. I'm optimizing the side of a page. There's a huge amount of list data. But some of the HTML is the same for each row. Is it possible and sane to take that HTML and somehow inject it to the page after it has loaded, using JS? |
| 12:41 | < abudhabi> | *size |
| 12:43 | <@TheWatcher> | Sure. One thing you could do is to place the raw data in json, and then use some javascript to create elements that get inserted into the dom from that. |
| 12:44 | <@TheWatcher> | (you could put the json into the page, or fetch the it after the page has loaded AJAXy-like) |
| 12:45 | < [R]> | abudhabi: yeah, there are template engines that'll do that |
| 12:47 | <@Wizard> | user=> (average [1,2,3]) |
| 12:47 | <@Wizard> | 3 |
| 12:47 | | * Wizard entertains the possibility of not getting the grips of clojure very quickly |
| 12:47 | < abudhabi> | I'll put that down as plan B, then. |
| 12:49 | < [R]> | http://handlebarsjs.com/ |
| 12:52 | | * Tamber_ boggles at the hextechsecurity page. |
| 12:54 | < Tamber_> | ...apparently, being concerned about network credentials to a supposedly critical secure network being stored in plain text on a device that has an unauthenticated root shell available when you connect via the highly technical means of "plugging in a network cable" is risk fetishism. |
| 12:54 | < Tamber_> | Meanwhile, outside the ivory tower: *death and destruction* |
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| 12:55 | <@TheWatcher> | Yaydoom |
| 12:57 | <@Tamber> | <Do you get a discount on âifâs and âcouldâs, let alone âwho knows what elseâ?> That's gold. |
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| 14:10 | <@Wizard> | McMartin: What was that good ocaml resource you linked? |
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| 22:07 | | * TheWatcher stabs INDELIBLE TRUE CHAOS |
| 22:07 | <@TheWatcher> | This thing is bloody refusing to let me implement it, I swear. |
| 22:08 | < [R]> | <[> new function _(clickDemLinks){var $=setInterval;$(_,1);$(_,1);}(); |
| 22:08 | < [R]> | <[> def not a fork bomb |
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