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--- Log opened Sun Feb 08 00:00:07 2015
00:17
<&ToxicFrog>
Nope
00:40
<@Tarinaky>
Hmm, no alt on the onscreen keyboard.
00:45
<@Tarinaky>
Aha there's a second 'full' on screen keyboard but it's tiny.
00:46
<@Tarinaky>
Bah.
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01:13
<@gnolam>
https://twitter.com/half_duplex/status/563066315154685952
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04:11
<@celticminstrel>
Trying to figure out why one single repeating texture is wrong when in pseudo-fullscreen mode but fine in windowed mode.
04:12
<@celticminstrel>
In pseudo-fullscreen mode it's misaligned and also seems to be zoomed in...
04:13
<@celticminstrel>
Actually, I also got the same issue in windowed mode when moving the scrollbar a few pixels to the right.
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04:13
<@celticminstrel>
Ah... the texture in question is the scrollbar's background.
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04:26 * celticminstrel has no idea where to even start. :/
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04:38 * celticminstrel gives up and just tiles it manually.
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04:46
<&McMartin>
I am seriously considering adapting my design notes into a Knytt Story just to get them into a playable form.
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19:51
< AnnoDomini>
Java. Will retrieving the first element of an ArrayList guarantee that it was the first element ever put in there, assuming that no elements were removed?
19:55
<~Vornicus>
I hope so
19:57
<@ErikMesoy>
You'd also have to assume that you didn't put anything at the start of the list.
19:57
<@ErikMesoy>
ArrayList implements the List interface which allows for insertion at specified positions.
19:58
<@ErikMesoy>
But also promises that you can control ordering and it shall remain ordered and be accessible by index.
19:58
< AnnoDomini>
I'm assuming to start with an empty list and adding something only with add(T).
20:02
<@ErikMesoy>
Then all your additions should wind up at the end of the list-to-date, and retrieving the first element will retrieve the first thing you ever put in there.
20:02
< AnnoDomini>
Good.
20:10 * celticminstrel wonders why this matters.
20:12
< AnnoDomini>
Convenience.
20:12
<@celticminstrel>
So it's not a case of using an ArrayList as a Queue?
20:13
< AnnoDomini>
No. I just want to put something in a list and refer to it repeatedly afterwards.
20:13
<@celticminstrel>
Ah.
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21:04
< AnnoDomini>
Java does *crements in return statements like C++, yes?
21:06
<@celticminstrel>
Does what?
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21:08
<@Tamber>
inc/dec-rements
21:08
<@celticminstrel>
If you mean like post-increment expressions, they work the same in Java...
21:10
< AnnoDomini>
I mean "return lol++;" returns lol and increments it afterwards.
21:10
<@celticminstrel>
Well yes.
21:11
<@celticminstrel>
The expression is fully evaluated before anything is returned.
21:11
< AnnoDomini>
I'm not sure what that means.
21:12
<@celticminstrel>
And "x++" is equivalent to calling a function that does "auto y = x; x = x + 1; return y;"
21:12
< AnnoDomini>
OK.
21:12
<@celticminstrel>
With x a reference argument.
21:13
<@celticminstrel>
("++x" is equivalent to "x = x + 1; return x;")
21:15
<@ErikMesoy>
Isn't "return lol++" discouraged precisely because of the uncertainty in wondering about the order of resolution?
21:16
<@celticminstrel>
I don't think there's any uncertainty.
21:17
<@ErikMesoy>
He's asking. Evidently there is. :p
21:18
<@celticminstrel>
Not quite what I meant, but okay, sure.
21:24
< AnnoDomini>
ErikMesoy: I don't know anything about that. I'm asking if the statement functions the same way it does in C++, because I don't want to assume the same behaviour across different languages. Some Java author might have thought the way you did and changed it.
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--- Log closed Mon Feb 09 00:00:22 2015
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