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| --- Day changed Thu Nov 20 2014 |
| 00:00 | <@TheWatcher> | This is the same company that decided the correct way to market lego to girls was to make it pink |
| 00:01 | <@celticminstrel> | ...huh? How does that follow? |
| 00:01 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, girls like pink, right? |
| 00:01 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah |
| 00:02 | <@TheWatcher> | It's like they're aware that there are these "girl" things out there, and they're using stereotypes and idiocy to inform policy |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | "Wait, but pink is the Peter Norton color" |
| 00:04 | <&McMartin> | One of the lady programmers I know's take on the Barbie book was "even sadder than the gender stereotypes here is the part where becomes a project manager, fucks everything up, works her underlings way too hard, steals all their credit, and gets away with it all" |
| 00:10 | <@celticminstrel> | No, I mean the association between Barbie and Lego. |
| 00:13 | <@TheWatcher> | It was just another example of the fail that surrounds girls where science is concerned. |
| 00:14 | <&McMartin> | That sentence could perhaps be more artfully phrased. |
| 00:15 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah, probably, but it's 0:14 here, I've been up since 7:00 yesterday, and had 5 hours sleep |
| 00:18 | <@TheWatcher> | Talking of which, I should go and do something about that |
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| 00:36 | < Lambo> | http://i.imgur.com/qjCEKE7.jpg |
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| 06:28 | <&jeroud> | ... I can't even finish reading that article. |
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| 10:58 | <@Azash> | https://narf-archive.com/pix/b7ce8f44a9212abba0531d1c9f92018f04997d32.png |
| 10:59 | <@Azash> | McMartin: ^ |
| 11:25 | <@TheWatcher> | ... |
| 11:28 | <@Azash> | #ifdef __EXTENSIVE_WKHTMLTOPDF_QT_HACK__ |
| 11:28 | <@Azash> | My day has significantly improved |
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| 11:54 | | * Julius plays Relational Database Sudoku. |
| 11:55 | <@Julius> | I'm trying to figure out which of the three-ish "account id"s are which properties of a single user. |
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| 14:16 | <@Tarinaky> | Ways I am awkward: I prefer to write 1e3 instead of 1000 |
| 14:16 | <@Tarinaky> | Because it's a whole character less :P |
| 14:17 | <@Azash> | Why not just 1K? |
| 14:17 | <@Tarinaky> | Most compilers/interpretters don't accept it. |
| 14:17 | <@Tarinaky> | Also some people find 1K3 ambiguous. |
| 14:18 | <@Azash> | Using 1e3 in code will incur the wrath of whoever has to maintain it |
| 14:18 | <@Tarinaky> | When I see 1k3 I tend to thing resistor notation: i.e. 1300 |
| 14:19 | <@Tarinaky> | Could be worse, I have a constant somewhere called SECONDS_IN_MINUTE = 3.6e3 |
| 14:19 | <@Tarinaky> | Err |
| 14:19 | <@Tarinaky> | *SECOND_IN_HOUR |
| 14:19 | <@Tarinaky> | I am derp today |
| 14:19 | <@Azash> | I was expecting a "SO THAT'S WHAT CAUSES THE BUG" |
| 14:19 | <@Tarinaky> | lol |
| 14:22 | <@Tarinaky> | I've gotten quite good at writing regex at work though. |
| 14:22 | <@Tarinaky> | I might have to buy that "Stand back I know..." shirt |
| 14:22 | <@Tarinaky> | Or I should say: "I'm starting to get quite good" |
| 14:23 | <@Tarinaky> | There's a decent chance of them working first time now :P |
| 14:31 | <@Azash> | Tarinaky: What does this do? /[^{]*\{(([^{}]*|\{[^{}]*\}))\}[^}]*/\1/ |
| 14:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | Causes beatings to be applied to the author for not commenting it. |
| 14:34 | <@Tarinaky> | Any number of characters that aren't '{', '{'... |
| 14:34 | <@Tarinaky> | Wait, why is one of the '{' escaped? |
| 14:34 | <@Azash> | ToxicFrog: I was just using it to grep JSON |
| 14:34 | <@Azash> | It's not actually in code |
| 14:34 | <@Tarinaky> | Regexp isn't readable >.> |
| 14:35 | <@Tarinaky> | The information density is too high to be readable. |
| 14:35 | <@Azash> | Tarinaky: Don't get that shirt quite yet :P |
| 14:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | Tarinaky: in some regex dialects, { is meaningful |
| 14:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | E.g. a{2.3} is between 2 to 3 occurrences of the letter a |
| 14:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | a{2,3} rather |
| 14:35 | <@Tarinaky> | Azash: I can /write/ regex though |
| 14:35 | <@Tarinaky> | I just can't read it. |
| 14:35 | <@Azash> | Knowing how to shoot a gun doesn't make you a gunsmith though |
| 14:36 | <@Azash> | The regex shirt is reserved for the most perverted, demented, bearded minds among us |
| 14:36 | <@Tarinaky> | Knowing how to build a bridge doesn't make you a good driver. |
| 14:41 | <@Azash> | Corrected typos: /[^{}]*\{([^{}]*|\{[^{}]*\})\}[^}]*/\1/ |
| 14:42 | <@Azash> | Tarinaky: No, and as far-fetched as that analogy is, I also never claimed that being able to read regex made you good at writing them |
| 14:44 | <@Tarinaky> | I know. |
| 14:44 | <@Tarinaky> | Which is why I said something equally nonsensical. |
| 14:45 | <@Tarinaky> | I'd need some pens+paper and spend some time going through and deconstructing and matchin tokens up to deal with your regex |
| 14:46 | <@Tarinaky> | You know, to reduce the information density so I can read it. |
| 14:46 | <@Tarinaky> | And I cbf to do that. |
| 14:46 | <@Azash> | As said, hold off on that shirt |
| 14:46 | <@Azash> | :P |
| 14:46 | | * gnolam checks the channel, reads "penispaper" as the first line of backscroll, decided he needs more tea. |
| 14:47 | <@Tarinaky> | gnolam: Are you sure you're not just repressed in a Freudian sense? |
| 15:07 | <@Tarinaky> | IDK if I should offer to pair program with someone who seems to be struggling... |
| 15:07 | <@Tarinaky> | On the one hand, that seems like a reasonable thing to offer... |
| 15:07 | <@Tarinaky> | On the other, I hate pair programming |
| 15:08 | <@Tarinaky> | And we don't have a culture of it here. |
| 15:08 | <@Tarinaky> | Plus we're in different offices. |
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| 19:05 | | * Derakon amuseds at work, wherein all three of us employees have given separate responses to a user request for help. |
| 19:06 | <&Derakon> | Apparently without reading each others' emails either. |
| 19:06 | <&Derakon> | (Well, obviously it's impossible for each employee to read the other two's emails, but hell, I sent my response first!) |
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| 21:57 | | * McMartin eyes Fedora |
| 21:57 | <&McMartin> | "Total update size: 204MB" |
| 21:58 | <&McMartin> | "Total download size: 2.4MB" |
| 21:58 | <@Reiv> | That does not seem right |
| 21:58 | <&McMartin> | I must have had a bunch cached before |
| 21:58 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, it only downloaded six RPMs and then installed 30 |
| 21:59 | <@Reiv> | oh, that'll do it |
| 21:59 | <@Reiv> | speaking of updates |
| 21:59 | <&McMartin> | Actually make that more like 90 |
| 21:59 | <@Reiv> | Windows 7: When you download 200MB of updates, how much extra hard drive will it be eating once it's all done? |
| 21:59 | <@Reiv> | 200MB being a random example. |
| 22:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | Impossible to know without knowing the actual update contents. |
| 22:00 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, Windows infamously does a lot of delta updates. |
| 22:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | Since it's going to be whatever that 200MB unpacks into, less files that are being replaced or removed, and less update contents that don't actually apply to your computer. |
| 22:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm going to hazard a guess that it's ±1GB |
| 22:01 | <@Reiv> | wonderful |
| 22:01 | <@Reiv> | My laptop is running out of space, and I keep having to eye windows update suspiciously and wondering how many gigs it's slowly chomping up as time goes past >_> |
| 22:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | thoth ran out of space twice this week, apparently due to things dropping ~5GB of data in /tmp |
| 22:02 | <@Reiv> | that would do it |
| 22:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | Possibly 20GB is a bit small for / these days, but seriously |
| 22:02 | <@Reiv> | My entire laptop is 128GB |
| 22:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | (the first of these appears to have been kwin crashing continuously at some point and writing a new core file each time, the second demonstrates that running 'identify' on a video file is a bad idea) |
| 22:04 | <@Reiv> | identify? |
| 22:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | Thoth is ~500GB, partitioned into / and /alt-root (20GB each) and /home (the rest) |
| 22:04 | <@Reiv> | yeah |
| 22:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | Identify the format and display information about an image file. |
| 22:04 | <@Reiv> | haha, right |
| 22:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | More comprehensive than 'file'. |
| 22:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | What I actually wanted was "ffmpeg -i" or "mplayer --identify", but it was late |
| 22:08 | <@Reiv> | Yeah, that'll do it |
| 22:09 | <@Reiv> | how big was the initial movie anyway |
| 22:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | ~250MB |
| 22:10 | <@Reiv> | That's a pretty good effort at unpacking |
| 22:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | I think it was decoding each frame to raw or something |
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| 22:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | Ok |
| 22:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | I have now fixed the bug in the backup software that was causing to crash when backing up thoth:/ |
| 22:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | And the bug in my cron job for the backup software that was causing it to report this as success |
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