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| 03:35 | <~Vornicus> | Oh, I was starting a conversion to richer controllers. |
| 03:36 | <~Vornicus> | er, publications |
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| 03:55 | <@Azash> | http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/94805967922/prototype-ver-0-0-3 |
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| 20:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | Huh. Found a bug in xspellcast. |
| 20:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | Or...hmm. |
| 20:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | The rules are ambiguous. |
| 20:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | "[Magic Mirror] does not affect spells which are cast on oneself (e.g. spells from this section and the Summoning section)" |
| 20:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | Does this mean: |
| 20:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | - casting a spell on yourself simultaneously with Magic Mirror (e.g. using Delayed Effect) has both spells resolve against you |
| 20:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | - spells that default to targeting yourself, i.e. beneficial spells, bypass Magic Mirror even if targeting an enemy? |
| 21:04 | <@celticminstrel> | The first sounds more intuitive. |
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| 21:55 | <@Tarinaky> | What's xspellcast? |
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| 22:05 | <@ErikMesoy> | Going by googles, it appears to be a reimplementation of spellcast: http://www.eblong.com/zarf/spellcast.html |
| 22:06 | <@Reiv> | The first one sounds odd; why do you have the 'simultaneous' clause in that reading? |
| 22:07 | <@ErikMesoy> | I'm reminded of a joke I heard. "Elder wizards regularly include death curses in their formal greetings to one another. Not replying with the correct counter-curse is lethal and highly impolite." |
| 22:08 | <@Reiv> | whut |
| 22:08 | <@Reiv> | I guess that's one way to test for senority |
| 22:08 | <@Reiv> | A bad day if you've lost your voice, though~ |
| 22:11 | <@ErikMesoy> | Cast solve problem at your voice before you go to meet with anyone. :p |
| 22:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | ErikMesoy, Tarinaky: Andrew Plotkin's spellcast implementation, the one ErikMesoy linked |
| 22:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | Reiv: because Magic Mirror is transient, so it would have to be simultaneous |
| 22:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | And since MM requires both hands to cast, this would come up extremely rarely |
| 22:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | Basically, you would have to Delayed Effect a spell and then trigger it on the same turn you cast MM - or DE MM and then cast it on the same turn as something else that affects you. |
| 22:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | Er, something else you target on yourself, rather. |
| 22:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | Anyways, the Plotkin implementation takes the latter implementation: defensive spells and summons ignore Magic Mirror regardless of their target. |
| 22:15 | <@Tarinaky> | ToxicFrog: What is spellcast? |
| 22:15 | <&McMartin> | Presumably those do not target *you directly* and just kind of nearby. |
| 22:15 | <&McMartin> | Much as MM doesn't defend against the elemental storms, IIRC |
| 22:16 | <&McMartin> | Tarinaky: A turn-based wizard duel game largely about action buffering |
| 22:16 | <@Tarinaky> | Ahah |
| 22:18 | <@Reiv> | Actually looking at it, it's saying "Does not affect [these categories of spells]" |
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