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| 05:57 | | * McMartin looks at more old machine language programs, faces all the palms. |
| 05:58 | <&McMartin> | I honestly have yet to find one that actually doesn't have something fatally wrong with it, this run |
| 05:58 | <&McMartin> | (There are a few that didn't that I've already looted~) |
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| 15:03 | <@thalass> | Man, git is handy. |
| 15:04 | <@thalass> | *states the obvious |
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| 15:54 | | * Azash applies boot to obscure custom gem-specific classes |
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| 16:23 | <@RchrdB> | Thalass|codefu, I don't think it's even slightly obvious -at first- =) |
| 16:25 | <@Thalass|codefu> | I'm starting to get the hang of it, i think. I've managed to keep my code sane across three machines. Laptop battery dies: just start working with the desktop machine. |
| 16:26 | <@celticminstrel> | Hm? |
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| 17:04 | <@RchrdB> | celticminstrel, [15:03:58] <thalass> Man, git is handy. |
| 17:05 | <@RchrdB> | [15:04:02] * thalass states the obvious |
| 17:05 | <@celticminstrel> | Ah. |
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| 20:42 | <@Azash> | root@Debian-75-wheezy-64-minimal ~ # su haeroe |
| 20:42 | <@Azash> | \[\033[01;31m\]\u\[\033[01;33m\]@\[\033[01;36m\]\h \[\033[01;33m\]\w \[\033[01;35m\]$ \[\033[00m\] |
| 20:42 | | * Azash believes this is not intended behaviour |
| 20:44 | <@RchrdB> | looks like someone had a bad time with escapes |
| 20:44 | <@RchrdB> | the things that look like "\[\033[01;31m" are meant to be vt100 colour formatting codes |
| 20:45 | <@Azash> | Yeah I know |
| 20:45 | <@Azash> | Just the default shell was wrong |
| 20:45 | <@RchrdB> | plausible, did someone write '\[\033[01;31m' in a bash script where they meant to write $'\[\033[01;31m'? |
| 20:46 | <@Azash> | Nah |
| 20:46 | <@Azash> | The default shell was wrong |
| 20:47 | <@RchrdB> | what, dash instead of bash or something? |
| 20:48 | <@Azash> | I don't remember what it's called, probably dash |
| 20:48 | <@Azash> | No tab completes or anything |
| 20:48 | <@Azash> | Hetzner likes using it as a default |
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| 20:49 | <@RchrdB> | heh |
| 20:49 | <@RchrdB> | dash is a recent re-implementation of the POSIX shell. |
| 20:49 | <@RchrdB> | It does almost *only* the stuff that POSIX requires a shell to do, I think? |
| 20:50 | <@RchrdB> | I think some Debian people like it because it's much smaller than bash. |
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| 22:57 | < [R]> | RchrdB: it's meant for bing /bin/sh without having bashisms leaked into it. |
| 22:58 | < [R]> | At least that's how it was sold in Arch or something. |
| 22:58 | <@RchrdB> | Yeah. |
| 22:58 | < [R]> | As many #!/bin/sh are actually non-portable from bash |
| 22:58 | <@RchrdB> | And it's the de-facto test suite that Debian people use to get shitty at you if you accidentally use a bashism in a script starting #!/bin/sh ;) |
| 22:59 | <@RchrdB> | OTOH, it's easier just to not learn any bash-specific features and then you will, by construction, only write shell scripts that work in plain Bourne. |
| 23:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | I prefer to just target bash because it's so much more pleasant and you have to work pretty hard to find a system without it these days. |
| 23:05 | < [R]> | Can't use it for most BSD boot stuff |
| 23:05 | < [R]> | As /usr (where bash is) might not be mounted at that point. |
| 23:08 | <@RchrdB> | Linux initrd's will tend to have something else smaller than bash too, right? |
| 23:08 | <@RchrdB> | Not that you really want to spend too many of your finite hours left alive on this planet hacking on boot-time stuff |
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| --- Log closed Sat Jun 14 00:00:45 2014 |