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| 00:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | thalass: speaking as someone who's been running his own email for years - it's a colossal pain in the ass but totally doable. |
| 00:07 | | * thalass nods |
| 00:08 | <@thalass> | I've wanted to ease myself out from Google's clutches for a while now, but it is difficult with Gmail being so handy. :P |
| 00:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | It is a pain in the ass primarily because configuring your own mail server is a black art and troubleshooting it when it goes wrong is a descent into madness. |
| 00:09 | | * ToxicFrog nods |
| 00:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | I use gmail at work and I have to say, its autoclassification is much better than anything you can do with your own filters + spamassassin. |
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| 00:31 | < Shiz> | configuration is painful yeah |
| 00:31 | < Shiz> | once you get it running it's great though |
| 00:31 | < Shiz> | (anecdotal experience) |
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| 00:48 | <@thalass> | I believe Himi runs his own everything, too. |
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| 00:54 | <@Reiv> | "Great" is relative, all told |
| 00:54 | <@Reiv> | You've offloaded all that pesky work onto, uh, yourself |
| 00:55 | <@thalass> | heh |
| 00:56 | <~Vornicus> | yeah. I wouldn't want to run my own mail thing, it's just too much of a pain in the ass. |
| 01:08 | | thalass is now known as Thalaway |
| 01:33 | <@Azash> | What's a good self-hosted CI system? |
| 01:39 | <&Derakon> | CI? |
| 01:39 | <@Azash> | Continuous integration |
| 01:39 | < [R]> | Jenkins seems to be pretty popular. |
| 01:39 | <@Azash> | Basically, pushing to a repo triggers a hook that makes the CI system compile and run tests then generate reports |
| 01:40 | <@Azash> | Mm, I heard it was a bit cumbersome so was wondering if there were others |
| 01:41 | < [R]> | *shrugs* |
| 01:41 | < [R]> | cmake's apparently got one as well. |
| 01:41 | < [R]> | Those are the only ones I know of |
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| 01:44 | <@Azash> | Alright, thanks |
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| 01:53 | <&McMartin> | You can make Buildbot do it |
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| 02:29 | | * simon_ installed Ingress and has become somewhat addicted in 8 hours. |
| 02:34 | < [R]> | Ingress? |
| 02:36 | <@simon_> | it's Google's augmented reality MMO |
| 02:37 | <@simon_> | you run/bike/drive around and capture "portals" from the opposing team. |
| 02:37 | <@simon_> | and you defend the portals that your team has. |
| 02:37 | <@simon_> | portals are usually centered around historic / cultural sights, so you get a sort of sight-seeing tour out of it, too :) |
| 02:39 | <@simon_> | this evening I learned of 5 sculptures and 10 large mural paintings in my local neighbourhood |
| 02:39 | <@simon_> | a lot of them hide away in back-alleys, and I haven't really been looking for them. |
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| 03:38 | | * Alek waves at simon |
| 03:38 | <@Alek> | churches are common locations, as are parks. |
| 03:38 | <@Alek> | plaques, fountains, interesting buildings. |
| 03:39 | <@Alek> | like a gazebo and a clock at my park, as well as 3 fountains, an arch, and the sign to the fitness center. |
| 03:40 | <@Alek> | anything of historic or entertainment value, or both, generally. |
| 03:40 | <@Alek> | just make sure you capture what it looks like (signs are good), and don't capture people or license plates. |
| 03:41 | <@Alek> | in fact, cars in general are something to avoid capturing. |
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| 03:45 | <@Reiv> | Are you allowed to be capturing cars? |
| 03:48 | <@froztbyte> | they try to avoid confusion or PII leakage |
| 03:48 | <@froztbyte> | so that things focus entirely on the portal |
| 03:48 | | * froztbyte hasn't played in weeks |
| 03:49 | <@Reiv> | PII leakage? |
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| 04:07 | <@Namegduf> | Personally Identifiable Information. |
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| 04:13 | < [R]> | Anyone get stupid depressed whenever they have to get a file to/from windows from/to linux? |
| 04:13 | < [R]> | Anyone else* |
| 04:13 | <@Namegduf> | XD |
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| 04:43 | < [R]> | ... whoever thought up the ipv6 rDNS scheme needs to be brutally murdered. |
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| 12:27 | | * TheWatcher eyes this |
| 12:28 | <@TheWatcher> | ... this email has an e2808b character at the end of it. Which is pointless and weird. But then my code is barfing on it for no reason I can see, wtf |
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| 13:17 | <@TheWatcher> | DAMN YOU, CHARACTER ENCODINGS!!! |
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| 13:52 | <@froztbyte> | haha |
| 13:54 | <@TheWatcher> | (so much haet) |
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| 14:55 | <@TheWatcher> | AAAARGGGH |
| 15:36 | | * TheWatcher bashes his head on the desk |
| 15:47 | <@TheWatcher> | Why, this string is fucking utf8, so why am I getting corrupt character sequences?! |
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| 17:44 | | * gnolam snickers at http://arsoncoin.org/ |
| 17:46 | <@Tamber> | Hee |
| 18:15 | | Kindamoody|afk is now known as Kindamoody |
| 18:45 | <@Tarinaky> | "Beloved Christopher, in an attempt to make |
| 18:45 | <@Tarinaky> | his browser fast and lightweight, decided to replace his Flash plugin with code that prints âShockwave has crashedâ and |
| 18:45 | <@Tarinaky> | then immediately dereferences a NULL pointer" |
| 18:46 | <@Tarinaky> | (Source: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1403_02-08_mickens.pdf) |
| 18:47 | < Shiz> | mickens strikes again |
| 18:47 | < Shiz> | >This is my last column! |
| 18:47 | < Shiz> | ;__; |
| 18:51 | <@ErikMesoy> | But... I have edited light, fluffy web pages in Notepad! |
| 18:52 | <@Tarinaky> | "That is the saddest programming concept that Iâve ever |
| 18:52 | <@Tarinaky> | heard, and I am fluent in C++" |
| 18:58 | <@ErikMesoy> | "nobody will watch your TED talk if your sense of optimism is grounded in reality." |
| 19:00 | <@Tarinaky> | "But... I have edited light, fluffy web pages in Notepad!" << Is rather like saying C++ is straight forward, simple and not at all made of spiders because you've written plenty of C89 programs. |
| 19:03 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody[zZz] |
| 19:04 | <@Tarinaky> | So. Totally not the right place to ask this but... I quite like my Universities Quantum Information modules; but I hate University and have no ambition (or resources) for further study. |
| 19:04 | <@Tarinaky> | Professionally I like writting software, and should probably stick to that... if I can find gainful employmenty in that field. |
| 19:05 | <@Tarinaky> | And I can think of absolutely no professional opportunities to apply Quantum-stuffs outside of doing more University. |
| 19:05 | <@Tarinaky> | Any ideas? |
| 19:08 | <@Tarinaky> | Probably not I figure. |
| 19:11 | <&jerith> | 'You would be sad if you |
| 19:11 | <&jerith> | went to the hospital to have your appendix removed, and the |
| 19:11 | <&jerith> | surgeon opened you up, and she said, âI DIDNâT EXPECT |
| 19:11 | <&jerith> | YOUR LIVER TO HAVE GILLS,â and then she proceeded with |
| 19:11 | <&jerith> | her original surgical plan, despite the fact that youâre apparently |
| 19:11 | <&jerith> | a mer-person. ' |
| 19:11 | <@ErikMesoy> | You must remove additional linebreaks. |
| 19:12 | <@Tamber> | This is why copy-paste from pdfs makes me sad. |
| 19:12 | <&jerith> | That would require me to do something other than copy from a PDF and paste into an IRC client. |
| 19:12 | <&jerith> | Be grateful you didn't get lines from the other column intertwingled with that. |
| 19:13 | | * Tamber grumbles a stupid comparison to express dislike at both options. |
| 19:13 | <@ErikMesoy> | Maybe it's because I'm viewing the PDF directly in Firefox, no extra application, but my copypaste preserves flow rather than inserting linebreaks where the PDF had length new lines. |
| 19:14 | <@ErikMesoy> | Bah, I do not know the proper names for these things |
| 19:14 | <&jerith> | ErikMesoy: It may be because I copied from a paragraph in a bullet list. |
| 19:14 | <&jerith> | It may be because Chrome's PDF renderer does different magic to Firefox's. |
| 19:15 | <@Tamber> | That would be rather appropriate, considering the general theme~ |
| 19:15 | <@ErikMesoy> | Hahaha |
| 19:15 | <@ErikMesoy> | Yeah, copying that same bullet point subsection goes to IRC fine for me |
| 19:15 | <@ErikMesoy> | might also be the IRC client |
| 19:15 | <&jerith> | It may be because I am using a computer while sick in bed in Africa after my Young Lady has already announced the availability of supper. |
| 19:15 | <@ErikMesoy> | I am using Pidgin, which isn't so much an IRC client as an omniclient |
| 19:15 | <@Tamber> | It may also be because the moon is the wrong phase. |
| 19:20 | <&McMartin> | "Never forget that when you are alone, I am with you, and when you are with someone else, I am also with you, because I think that I am better than that other person and I have lengthy opinions about why this is true." |
| 19:24 | <&McMartin> | "The book's unflinching realism inspired my own series of ill-received children's books, such as 'Spiders Ate Your Sister That We Never Talk About'." |
| 19:25 | <&McMartin> | "Without an oversized hammer or axe, YOUR BARBARIAN IS JUST AN ILLITERATE STEROID USER." |
| 19:56 | <@Tarinaky> | ErikMesoy: I'm using the built in PDF view in Chrome. |
| 19:57 | <@Tarinaky> | Poppler I think it's called. |
| 19:57 | <@Tarinaky> | Also my IRC client 'stack' is Cygwin->SSH->Screen->irssi |
| 19:58 | <@ErikMesoy> | YOU FOOL! THIS IS WHAT WE WERE WARNED ABOUT! |
| 19:59 | <@Tarinaky> | 2pr04u |
| 19:59 | | * McMartin fights ancient space egyptians by speaking Latin |
| 19:59 | | * Tamber adds a few more layers of SSH and some telnet/rsh into Tarinaky's irc client stack. |
| 19:59 | | * McMartin replaces Cygwin->SSH with PuTTY |
| 20:00 | <@Namegduf> | That stack diagram fails to include service discovery. |
| 20:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Tamber: Don't joke. My Laptop got its IP address on the Uni network blocked by the shell's SSHguard script so now I have to ssh into another server to ssh into my IRC client. |
| 20:00 | <@Namegduf> | All protocols must be paired with a service discovery protocol. |
| 20:00 | <@Tarinaky> | +from the Uni network/ |
| 20:00 | <@Tamber> | *snrk* |
| 20:00 | <@RichyB> | Tarinaky, I think that the traditional plan for people in your situation is: if in undergrad, work out and then bull through the minimum set of classes to graduate with a qualification with which you will be able to get some kind of programming job. |
| 20:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Although my laptop doesn't need Cygwin so I guess what I lose I gain. |
| 20:01 | <@Tarinaky> | RichyB: Yeah. That's the path I'm on. Except with minimum GPA to match :V |
| 20:02 | <@RichyB> | That matches what I did. |
| 20:02 | <@RichyB> | Modulo the fact that I did it poorly and mostly by mistake. |
| 20:03 | <@Tarinaky> | But it would be nice to not have to say goodbye to everything I've learned in Quantum... |
| 20:03 | <@Tarinaky> | She says, realising that's a sentence that should probably never be uttered ever. |
| 20:06 | <@RichyB> | Does it have to be quantum computation? I would be really surprised if the same mathematical skillset wasn't also useful in other places like information security & cryptography. |
| 20:06 | <@RichyB> | There are apparently groups working on building QCs at the moment but I don't know how many of them are outside academia. |
| 20:07 | <@Tarinaky> | I don't really know any cryptography. Honestly.] |
| 20:07 | <&McMartin> | I am vaguely given to understand that QC and crypto intersect less than you'd think. |
| 20:07 | <@RichyB> | Skillset, not knowledge. |
| 20:08 | <@Tarinaky> | I should go get something to eat. |
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| 21:00 | < HotShot> | Hello |
| 21:00 | <@ErikMesoy> | Stop that |
| 21:01 | < HotShot> | Huh? |
| 21:01 | <@ErikMesoy> | The green-on-black font. It's a terrible sign. |
| 21:02 | < HotShot> | sorry its an old script from my teen years |
| 21:02 | < HotShot> | don't remember how to change it... |
| 21:03 | < HotShot> | anywhoo, anyone here knows how to use code for sockets? |
| 21:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | In what language? |
| 21:04 | < HotShot> | i would assume C# |
| 21:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | Why would you assume that? |
| 21:06 | < HotShot> | looks like c# coding |
| 21:06 | < HotShot> | its for mirc |
| 21:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh |
| 21:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | mIRC uses its own horrible clusterfuck of a language |
| 21:07 | < HotShot> | xD |
| 21:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's not C#, or any other general purpose language; it's an ad hoc scripting language specific to mIRC. |
| 21:08 | < HotShot> | oh |
| 21:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | I know we have a few mIRC users in here, who might be able to help, but I'm not one of them. |
| 21:09 | < HotShot> | Okay |
| 21:10 | <~Vornicus> | lordy turn off that autocoloring |
| 21:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | Looks like it only affects messages starting with capital letters for some reason. |
| 21:14 | < HotShot> | no its abreviation spell out |
| 21:14 | < HotShot> | lol |
| 21:14 | < HotShot> | its off |
| 21:14 | < HotShot> | ok lol lmfao hi gfto |
| 21:15 | < HotShot> | yeah its off |
| 21:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | Huzzah. |
| 21:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | Thank you. |
| 21:17 | | * HotShot Bitch slaps Turaiel like a whore he is |
| 21:17 | < HotShot> | errr |
| 21:18 | <@ErikMesoy> | Embarassing scripts from teen years? :D |
| 21:18 | < HotShot> | yes |
| 21:18 | < HotShot> | mirc v6.03 |
| 21:19 | <&McMartin> | I'd recommend switching over to something like the SilvereX port of X-Chat on Windows |
| 21:21 | <~Vornicus> | which has python scripting available, which is... helpful |
| 21:27 | <@Reiv> | That said, mIRC does have a suite of features I've never quite found elsewhere without too much bother. |
| 21:27 | <@Reiv> | Notably the ability to have highlights on arbitary words that give, eg, audio cues |
| 21:29 | < HotShot> | yes |
| 21:29 | < HotShot> | and its newb friendly |
| 21:30 | <@Reiv> | I run Quassel these days, and the biggest thing I miss is the ability to have it give brazen notifications. |
| 21:30 | <@Reiv> | Also the ability to set up channels to prod me like PMs do. |
| 21:30 | <@Reiv> | 'cuz some of my channels are practically PMs. |
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| 21:46 | <~Vornicus> | Yeah, mIRC has a lot of scripting-free configurability, it's very nice like that. |
| 21:46 | <~Vornicus> | (once you do get into the scripting it's a shrieking terror though) |
| 21:48 | <@Reiv> | Pretty much, yes |
| 21:48 | <@Reiv> | But the scripting-free bit means people end up configuring a hell of a lot to their tastes before they start hitting the walls at last |
| 21:52 | <~Vornicus> | also if you do decide to use mIRC, you should probably use the latest, version 7.32 |
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| 21:59 | <~Vornicus> | (or, if you're working on a legacy script you can also get 6.35) |
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| 22:21 | <&ToxicFrog> | Reiv: xchat also has highlights on arbitrary words, though? |
| 22:24 | <@Reiv> | Can you make it go Bing? |
| 22:24 | <@Reiv> | Or Bong? Or Beep Beep Beep? |
| 22:31 | <~Vornicus> | Or play The Wurzels - Combine Harvester? |
| 22:41 | <@RichyB> | Well it's open-source so yes |
| 22:41 | <@RichyB> | but maybe use HexChat over XChat. It's a fork that is still being updated. |
| 22:42 | <&McMartin> | Is the SilvereX branch still updated? |
| 22:45 | <@TheWatcher> | Last update was 2009 |
| 22:46 | <&McMartin> | Elch. |
| 22:47 | <@TheWatcher> | (But then, last stable xchat release was 2010.) |
| 22:48 | <&McMartin> | (irssi is dormant too) |
| 22:49 | <@Reiv> | (Are there any bloody irc clients still getting dev'd? Quassel is getting aged as well...) |
| 22:50 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, I wouldn't go as far as /dormant/ - the dev build was updated in January >.> |
| 22:52 | <&McMartin> | ! |
| 22:52 | <&McMartin> | That's nwes to me |
| 22:52 | <&McMartin> | news, too |
| 23:00 | <@Reiv> | McMartin: Eh wot? |
| 23:01 | <&McMartin> | irssi getting a dev update |
| 23:15 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah. There were a smattering of stable releases through 2012/13, and some dev work still going, just slow |
| 23:15 | <@Azash> | tbf, IRC clients probably can't be improved forever anyway |
| 23:19 | < Turaiel> | So why did nobody kick HotShot earlier? |
| 23:19 | <~Vornicus> | A lot of work can still be done with the interface. |
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