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| 11:59 | <@TheWatcher> | Dear Twitter: I haet U. |
| 12:09 | < Shiz> | k |
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| 12:24 | < Erik> | Aaaargh. Hammering variations of "python htmlparser unicode" into google. A page on the Faroe Islands is located at /færøyene.html in a link I have; HTMLParser is printing out /færøyene.html when I ask it to print the link, despite me specifying # -*- coding: utf8 -*- |
| 12:28 | <@TheWatcher> | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/45674275.jpg ~ |
| 12:28 | < Erik> | yes |
| 12:36 | | * Erik kludges together solution based on several other pieces |
| 12:37 | < Erik> | HTMLParser.unescape(urllib2.unquote(string).decode('utf8')) |
| 12:43 | < Erik> | Not sure if terrible mess, or necessary tool for dealing with terrible mess. >_> |
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| 13:18 | < Shiz> | Erik: use the requests librar |
| 13:19 | < Shiz> | wait, that's not for html parsing |
| 13:19 | < Shiz> | correction, use beautifulsoup4 |
| 13:19 | < Shiz> | http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/bs4/doc/ |
| 13:25 | < Erik> | Tried, couldn't install it, resorted to Python's builtin html parser |
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| 14:30 | < Erik> | Gahhhh. ElementTree not having a regular prettyprinter (it makes a giant one-line xml file). Apparently there's a proposed extension I can steal, but I'm not sure how to insert it: http://effbot.org/zone/element-lib.htm#prettyprint |
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| 17:15 | | * Vornicus pokes vaguely at Inform 7's mapping options, because his map is starting to get silly. |
| 17:17 | <~Vornicus> | (I am using it per TF's recommendation to map a cave in Minecraft; I have a cave with two entrances, and the main body of the cave is 3 steps down from one place and three steps down from another, and it maps this by putting the second step down on the "surface" |
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| 17:37 | | * Vornicus writes a minimal example. |
| 17:44 | <~Vornicus> | http://codepad.org/jeY3GhgF there. |
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| 18:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: so, what does the generated map look like? |
| 18:07 | <~Vornicus> | For my example, it puts: Lobby, Alley, and HOusewares (third floor) on the starting level; Menswear (second floor) is one floor down; Roof and Viewing Platform are one floor up. |
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| 18:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | Um |
| 18:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | That sounds like a bug |
| 18:16 | <~Vornicus> | What I /think/ it's doing is, when it chooses what things to put on what floors, it is -- in both my example and my real code -- choosing the shorter sequence of ascents as the right one. |
| 19:03 | <~Vornicus> | Now I'm wondering if there's a support channel for i7 because I can't find a way to get it to work. |
| 19:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | I know there's one on IFMUD |
| 19:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | I don't know if there's an IRC one. |
| 19:11 | | * Vornicus nices up the paste some. |
| 19:14 | <~Vornicus> | There seems to be no way to tell it that particular things should be on particular levels |
| 19:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | When I can get home I can relay your question to IFMUD if you haven't found a better venue. |
| 19:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh right, a lot of chatter happens in raif, too - rec.arts.int-fiction |
| 19:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | // TODO: bring up an IFMUD proxy anyone can use |
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| 19:37 | <~Vornicus> | Updated: http://codepad.org/onQoCXYT |
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| 20:01 | | * Derakon eyes this camera. |
| 20:01 | <&Derakon> | I just tried to do a framerate test at maximum image size, which is about 10MB per image. |
| 20:02 | < ErikMesoy> | *Camera eyes Derakon |
| 20:02 | <&Derakon> | And we can collect data that quickly. |
| 20:02 | <&Derakon> | But transferring it over the 10GBit link happens at like 10FPS instead of the 100FPS that we collect at. |
| 20:02 | <&Derakon> | In short our network performance is somewhat laggardly. |
| 20:02 | <&Derakon> | I wonder why. |
| 20:03 | | * Tamber hides the seed-box |
| 20:06 | <&Derakon> | Ha. We're only using 6% of the 10GBit link. |
| 20:07 | <&Derakon> | ...less, actually. |
| 20:07 | <&Derakon> | I wonder if packet size is killing us somehow. |
| 20:08 | <@froztbyte> | check what your pps rating of all your gear is |
| 20:08 | <@froztbyte> | if you have useful switches around |
| 20:08 | <@froztbyte> | they should be able to tell pps utilization |
| 20:08 | <&Derakon> | We can do 400FPS with much smaller images (256x256). |
| 20:08 | <@froztbyte> | (vs traffic load) |
| 20:08 | <@froztbyte> | (pps is packets per second) |
| 20:08 | <&Derakon> | So it shouldn't be a packet rate limitation. |
| 20:08 | <@froztbyte> | it can still be |
| 20:08 | <@froztbyte> | network hardware can have some very weird bugs |
| 20:09 | <@froztbyte> | for instance, you can run into something that is the *exact* right kind of thing to screw over fast-forwarding code |
| 20:09 | <&Derakon> | ...ohh, actually, it might be an issue with the work the receiver side does each time it gets a new image. |
| 20:09 | <&Derakon> | Processing the image takes longer; if it's holding the network link hostage while doing that, that could account for the slowdown. |
| 20:09 | <@froztbyte> | yeah probably |
| 20:09 | <&Derakon> | (Especially, trying to display a huge image takes a lot longer than trying to display a small one) |
| 20:09 | <@froztbyte> | just throw things into memory or onto an SSD cache? |
| 20:10 | <@froztbyte> | so that you can receive faster |
| 20:10 | <&Derakon> | I'm going to try spinning up a new thread for each received image instead. Or set up a producer/consumer thing. |
| 20:12 | <&Derakon> | Hm, no, that's not it... |
| 20:14 | <&Derakon> | It does occur to me that we're attempting to generate effectively an 8GBit stream (10MB/image at 100FPS) and have only a 10GBit link; network overhead might make this impossible no matter whate we do. |
| 20:14 | <&Derakon> | Er, what. |
| 20:14 | <&Derakon> | But we should be able to do better than the current <1Gbit utilization. |
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| 20:38 | <@Tamber> | Hm. |
| 20:38 | <@Tamber> | Large frames, or whatever it is? |
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| 21:04 | <@Tamber> | Ah. Jumbo frames, that's the one. |
| 21:10 | < Shiz> | wumbo frames |
| 21:13 | <~Vornicus> | Dumbo frames |
| 21:13 | <@Tamber> | Gumbo frames? |
| 21:14 | <@TheWatcher> | Dumbo are just eerie. |
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| 22:51 | | * Derakon sads at work. |
| 22:51 | <&Derakon> | I used to think my boss was actually good at wiring jobs, considering the amount of care he put into them. |
| 22:51 | <&Derakon> | Then today I found this. |
| 22:51 | <&Derakon> | http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp2/goodJob.jpg |
| 22:51 | <&Derakon> | http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp2/goodJob2.jpg |
| 22:54 | <~Vornicus> | what's 2? |
| 22:55 | <&Derakon> | It's a shot of an oscilloscope measuring the voltage on two of the lines. |
| 22:55 | <&Derakon> | Note the oscillation in both lines when one line goes from high to low voltage. |
| 22:56 | <~Vornicus> | wheee |
| 23:07 | <@TheWatcher> | ... |
| 23:08 | <@TheWatcher> | That's pretty damned crap |
| 23:08 | <@TheWatcher> | Do I actually want to ask what that's wiring /on/? |
| 23:08 | <&Derakon> | TTL lines responsible for opening/closing light-gate shutters. |
| 23:09 | <&Derakon> | Well, and one of them triggers a pulse generator; the problem was noticed when that one was getting triggered when it shouldn't have been. |
| 23:09 | <@TheWatcher> | With that much noise, I'm utterly unshocked |
| 23:24 | | macdjord is now known as LEGOFighter |
| 23:44 | | Derakon [chriswei@Nightstar-cb57nb.ca.comcast.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: leaving] |
| 23:55 | | LEGOFighter is now known as macdjord |
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