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| 09:03 | < Thalass> | My enthusiasm for #! is waning. |
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| 09:56 | < simon_> | Thalass, huh? |
| 10:11 | < Thalass> | I've been spoilt by OSes that automatically add newly installed programs to the menu. And i guess i'm too used to the GUI for things like settings. |
| 10:29 | | * TheWatcher demands that thal turn in his geek card!~ |
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| 10:41 | < simon_> | Thalass, well, the equivalent in Linux would be adding newly installed programs in your $PATH |
| 10:42 | < simon_> | Thalass, I'd expect that as well and am bugged whenever programs decide to install in some weird directory I hadn't expected, like /opt/foo/bin, or /usr/local/bar |
| 10:42 | < simon_> | or even /var/opt/blargh. |
| 10:54 | < Thalass> | Well i'm installing programs through apt-get or synaptic, so it ought to install as per the normal linux way. But i guess Crunchbang is too hardcore CLI for me. :P |
| 10:57 | < Thalass> | Sadly this netbook struggled with Mint 16 (cinnamon) and Ubuntu 13.10. It might be time to buy something from system76 :P |
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| 11:39 | | * TheWatcher sighs at google |
| 11:44 | <~Vornicus> | ? |
| 11:45 | <@TheWatcher> | Do you use google calendar? |
| 11:46 | <@TheWatcher> | You know how, when you create an event, you can set an event color? |
| 11:46 | <~Vornicus> | used it once or twice |
| 11:46 | <~Vornicus> | And yeah, I remember that |
| 11:46 | <@froztbyte> | TheWatcher: you can get pretty far by just rolling debian on that, mind you |
| 11:46 | <@froztbyte> | err, Thalass* |
| 11:46 | <@froztbyte> | Thalass: ubuntu and friends are retardedly full of cruft |
| 11:47 | <@TheWatcher> | As near as I can tell, that information is completely invisible to anyone but yourself. |
| 11:47 | <@froztbyte> | Thalass: they're officially titled "helper" applications, but it's just bullshit and bloat, but baked pretty deep in |
| 11:47 | <~Vornicus> | That does't surprise me too much |
| 11:47 | <@froztbyte> | Thalass: I ran my old eeepc-201 (early gen) with debian stable + kde in netbook mode |
| 11:48 | <@TheWatcher> | If you make your calendar public and share it, the events show fine, just in fixed colours |
| 11:52 | <@TheWatcher> | It looks like I can get at the colour through the API as long as it's connecting with credentials that have owner access to the calendar |
| 11:52 | <@TheWatcher> | But shit, it should not require this much faffing |
| 11:53 | <@froztbyte> | haha |
| 11:54 | <@TheWatcher> | There have been several times of late I've wondered if it'd be less aggro just to write my own sodding calendar app to do what's needed, rather than work around google calendar's idiosyncrasies. |
| 11:55 | <@froztbyte> | I'd probably recommend just building off of glyph's work |
| 11:55 | <@froztbyte> | (CalendarServer) |
| 12:09 | < Thalass> | frozt: Debian and kde in notebook mode? Huh. I do remember trying Kubuntu and Mint+KDE last time i switched OSes, perhaps it's worth a try again. |
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| 12:41 | | * Vornicus pokes at his old C++ template-shaped problem |
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| 12:50 | <~Vornicus> | Okay, let's see if I can explain this. |
| 12:54 | <~Vornicus> | I have two map types; the keys are the same type in both, the values are different types but share a couple of common methods. |
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| 12:56 | <~Vornicus> | I then have two iterators, each of which accepts a pair of these maps -- the pair has to have the same type, but the iterator has to work on either of these two types. |
| 12:57 | <~Vornicus> | The outputs of the iterators are key-value pairs of the same type as the input maps' pairs. |
| 12:58 | <~Vornicus> | I /then/ have an algorithm, which consumes one of these iterators and produces a map of the same type; it's a big filter. |
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| 19:36 | <@froztbyte> | Thalasleep: yeah, no, fuck ubuntu and kubuntu and all their friends |
| 19:36 | <@froztbyte> | Thalasleep: because they bring a hell of a lot of other bullshit in |
| 19:37 | <@froztbyte> | Thalasleep: ping me if you decide to actually try this, I'll walk you through installing |
| 19:37 | <@froztbyte> | (unless you feel comfortable with the debian cli installer, which I've heard can be scary (although I don't see it)) |
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| 20:27 | <@TheWatcher> | debain's cli installer... scary? |
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| 20:28 | <@TheWatcher> | Hell, when /I/ were alive.... |
| 20:29 | <@Tamber> | The dark days when you had a floppy disk with the kernel on it, and a stack more with the rest of the system you needed to build your *actual* system? :p |
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| 20:31 | <@TheWatcher> | Tamber: Oh, you used an Amiga 1000? |
| 20:31 | <@Tamber> | Hehehe |
| 20:31 | < Harlow> | anyone know how to the error that would be thrown if you try and assign a string to an int variable? |
| 20:31 | <@Tamber> | Careful! You'll possibly truncate your pointers! |
| 20:32 | | * TheWatcher attempts to parse that sentence, fails |
| 20:32 | < Shiz> | parse error: non-matching grammar |
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| 20:33 | < Harlow> | ilol |
| 20:33 | < Harlow> | What error would be thrown if you pass a string into an int. * c++ |
| 20:34 | < Shiz> | yeah it's called a level 7 error |
| 20:34 | < Shiz> | no error would be thrown, it's a compile error |
| 20:34 | < Harlow> | no i mean during runtime |
| 20:34 | < Shiz> | it's a compile error. |
| 20:34 | < Harlow> | how would i catch an error like that. |
| 20:35 | < Shiz> | you wouldn't |
| 20:36 | < Harlow> | No, there's got to be a way, if i cin>>x; where x is an int. and the user's input is "Fifty", the program should go into a failed state. |
| 20:36 | < Harlow> | how do i prevent that. |
| 20:36 | < Shiz> | christ |
| 20:36 | < Shiz> | at least try asking your questions properly |
| 20:36 | <@froztbyte> | rofl |
| 20:37 | <@froztbyte> | Harlow: you don't prevent it. you restructure the way you handle input. |
| 20:37 | < Harlow> | :c |
| 20:37 | <@Tamber> | Easiest way to prevent it: Don't accept user input. They only bloody break things anyway~ |
| 20:37 | < Harlow> | lol |
| 20:37 | < Harlow> | ok |
| 20:37 | <&McMartin> | Shiz: The documentation for istream will tell you what it does if it doesn't see what it expects. |
| 20:37 | < Harlow> | But if I have to accept user input, how would i want to do that? |
| 20:37 | < Shiz> | McMartin: why are you telling me? |
| 20:37 | < Harlow> | oh ok thanks McMartin! |
| 20:38 | < Shiz> | :p |
| 20:38 | <&McMartin> | Shiz: Because your answer is wrong: it's not a compile error to istream in something that isn't the data type. |
| 20:38 | < Shiz> | well sure |
| 20:38 | < Shiz> | but that was before I knew anything involved an istream in the first place |
| 20:38 | <&McMartin> | Er, that isn't the data type of the relevant thing |
| 20:38 | <@TheWatcher> | Shiz: actually, you /can/ do things like 'char *foo = "Text here"; int bar = foo;'. You'll get a "warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast", but it will compiled. |
| 20:38 | < Shiz> | TheWatcher: compile error if you compile with proper flags* |
| 20:38 | < Shiz> | :p |
| 20:39 | < Shiz> | McMartin: the way it was stated I assumed it involved direct assignment or passing to functions |
| 20:40 | < Harlow> | Yeah my bad, shiz, I'll be more clear next time. |
| 20:41 | <&McMartin> | Anyway |
| 20:41 | <&McMartin> | cplusplus.com/reference |
| 20:41 | <&McMartin> | Goes into considerable detail about invariants, return values, settable flags |
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