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| 01:06 | <&Derakon> | I'm tempted to show this to my boss: http://thecodelesscode.com/case/41 |
| 01:06 | <&Derakon> | Though to be fair his stated reason for wanting old code kept around was to know the change history. |
| 01:07 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 01:22 | <&ToxicFrog> | VERSION CONTROL, MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT |
| 01:25 | <@Tarinaky> | In her final report, Suku noted a swift change in the clanâs coding practices, and credited the good example set by the deceased head monk. We should consider his reinstatement, she wrote. |
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| 01:43 | < Thalass> | http://thecodelesscode.com/case/2 <-- this one should be sent to mt company |
| 01:43 | < Thalass> | *my |
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| 01:45 | <@Tarinaky> | Thalass: I never really got that one. |
| 01:46 | < Thalass> | The messanger observed the poisonous food to death. :P Much like the numerous memos, notices, and mandatory read-and-signs we get at work. |
| 01:47 | < Thalass> | It's probably not the best way to tell the tale, though. I would think the messenger dying of overeating would make more sense. But i am not a Master Wordsmith |
| 02:21 | | Turaiel[Offline] is now known as Turaiel |
| 02:26 | | * Alek looks at crossbar memory. |
| 02:26 | <@Alek> | hmm. |
| 02:27 | <@Alek> | as fast as DRAM, with 40x the capacity of flash (as of right now), solid-state and nonvolatile. |
| 02:27 | <@Alek> | a terabyte of storage in a postage stamp. |
| 02:28 | <@Alek> | imagine the applications. SSD replacement with the speed of DRAM. much smaller and more energy-efficient portables. |
| 02:30 | <@Alek> | Carry all your software around in your pocket, with no bulk. lightning-fast loading - not even loading, because the same thing can serve as both RAM and ROM. |
| 02:30 | <@Alek> | like preloading your whole game into RAM. XD |
| 02:31 | | * Alek drools. |
| 02:31 | <@Alek> | the video card and the cpu cooler will be the bulkiest parts of the machine. but even the GPU and CPU can be made better with this. |
| 02:32 | | * Alek really hopes this tech works and is available soon. |
| 02:50 | <@Alek> | they've already developed a working array at a commercial fab, as of August, so that's good news. proves it can be made. |
| 02:50 | <@Alek> | stackable right on top of CMOS architecture. |
| 02:55 | <@Alek> | this would be pretty ideal for the upcoming 8K tech, too. |
| 02:56 | <@Alek> | http://www.crossbar-inc.com/assets/img/media/Crossbar-FactSheet-082013.pdf |
| 03:00 | <@Alek> | if something blocks this tech without providing a good alternative, I will be so upset. |
| 03:01 | <@Alek> | we better not get an Edison v Tesla here. |
| 03:03 | <@Alek> | ok, how fast is a DRAM switching cycle? |
| 03:03 | | Turaiel is now known as Turaiel[Offline] |
| 03:03 | | * Alek garbles the terminology. >_> |
| 03:06 | <@Alek> | http://www.crossbar-inc.com/assets/img/media/Crossbar-RRAM-Technology-Whitepaper -080413.pdf |
| 03:06 | | * Alek is seriously impressed. |
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| 04:05 | | * Alek pokes LibreOffice. |
| 04:05 | <@Alek> | it opens some docx files just fine. |
| 04:05 | <@Alek> | others, it claims are the wrong version. o_o |
| 04:06 | | Turaiel[Offline] is now known as Turaiel |
| 04:06 | < Syka> | Open Office XML⢠is by far the most interoperable file format |
| 04:07 | < Syka> | * (between Office 2007â¢, Office 2010⢠and Office 2013⢠on selected Microsoft products) |
| 04:07 | | * Alek shrugs. |
| 04:08 | <@Alek> | those files were all made within days of each other, on the same install of Word. |
| 04:08 | < Syka> | Alek: all saved by the same version o- heh |
| 04:08 | <@Alek> | for reasons, that install is no longer available. |
| 04:09 | <@Alek> | no Word nearby, actually. |
| 04:09 | < Syka> | libo 4.1? |
| 04:09 | <@Alek> | yup, installed quite recently in fact. |
| 04:17 | < Syka> | hmm |
| 04:19 | <&McMartin> | Ha |
| 04:20 | <&McMartin> | One of my coworkers overheard me ranting about Gambit in Debian, and has been involved with trying to help out the new prospective maintainer |
| 04:41 | | io\blargh is now known as iospace |
| 04:42 | <&McMartin> | Apparently Gambit has been unable to run autoreconf since 2002 and Debian needs it to make things work right |
| 04:50 | <&McMartin> | I don't suppose anyone here knows autotools~ |
| 04:51 | | * ToxicFrog sets himself on fire and leaps out the window |
| 04:54 | <&McMartin> | Some people had great crimes to atone for, and learning autotools was perhaps their penance |
| 04:54 | | * iospace watches ToxicFrog land in a pool |
| 04:54 | <&McMartin> | OF GASOLINE |
| 04:54 | <@iospace> | nope |
| 04:54 | <@iospace> | water |
| 04:54 | <@iospace> | :< |
| 04:54 | <&McMartin> | (Fun fact: when we tried to autotoolize UQM back in the pre-0.1 era, it got into infinite loops.) |
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| 07:09 | <&jerith> | http://thecodelesscode.com/case/124 -- nice and short. |
| 07:12 | <&McMartin> | Heeeee at Qi's commentary |
| 07:12 | <&McMartin> | If you suffer from idempotence, ask your doctor if Statagra is right for you |
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| 09:57 | <@Tarinaky> | McMartin: Statagra? |
| 09:57 | <&McMartin> | Trying to mix "state" with "Viagra" there |
| 09:58 | <@Tarinaky> | Ahah. |
| 09:58 | <@Tarinaky> | I figured it'd be a dementia joke. |
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| 19:41 | < RichyB> | Although it's a little off. "The Hidden Variable", I mean, where it claims that Banzen is not idempotent. |
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| 19:42 | < RichyB> | If you asked him "Were you aware of this insult" more times, he'd continue to say "yes". |
| 19:43 | < RichyB> | The -effect- of asking that question was an idempotent operation, it just looks a bit odd on the first request because the question is about Banzen's previous state, not his current state. |
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| 19:47 | <@Tarinaky> | RichyB: I think idempotent has a different meaning in the realm of CS than in Mathematics. |
| 19:48 | <@Tarinaky> | Since when people talk about Idempotence being 'useful' in CS they mean strict-functional programming. |
| 19:50 | <@Tarinaky> | And the act of asking the question has a 'side-effect'. |
| 19:50 | <@Tarinaky> | Even though f(X) = f(f(X) ) |
| 19:58 | < RichyB> | No, really no. |
| 19:58 | <@Tarinaky> | Oh. |
| 19:58 | < RichyB> | Idempotence in CS is not at all just a property of pure functions. |
| 20:00 | < RichyB> | e.g. in making systems tolerate transient faults, you often want some operations to be idempotent in order to make getting them to happen reliably be easy, since idempotent actions can simply be tried again if they get randomly stopped. |
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| 20:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Meh. As usual I know nothing. |
| 20:00 | < RichyB> | Your definition in FP |
| 20:01 | < RichyB> | is also correct |
| 20:02 | | * Tarinaky goes back to revision |
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