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| 00:40 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
| 00:51 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
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| 01:23 | <~Vornicus> | Sometimes I feel like I don't really count as a proper programmer because most of the stuff I make is toys and I've never really done collaboration on any decent size projects. |
| 01:23 | <~Vornicus> | These past two months have been a revelation. Jesus god what are these people /thinking/ when they write this stuff |
| 01:23 | <&McMartin> | "ship it out and forget about it because it works" |
| 01:24 | <~Vornicus> | That's the problem, I'm not actually sure it does |
| 01:24 | <&McMartin> | "Works on my machne. Ship it" |
| 02:04 | < Syka_> | heh |
| 02:15 | <@Namegduf> | "It builds, ship it" |
| 02:15 | <&McMartin> | Those of you even slightly interested in Game Maker Studio: The Standard edition is apparently free right now |
| 02:15 | <&McMartin> | --- begin quote --- |
| 02:15 | <&McMartin> | Download and install GameMaker: Studio, if not already. The first time it runs, select the beta channel from the prompt, or switch from the tray icon. Let GameMaker update and restart. |
| 02:15 | <&McMartin> | Now, you can register the Standard version for free; requires a valid email addy to receive the key. |
| 02:15 | <&McMartin> | (Having the Standard edition should give you a price break on upgrading to Professional or Master, if that interests you.) |
| 02:15 | <&McMartin> | --- end quote --- |
| 02:25 | < Reiv> | Hunh. Cool. |
| 02:25 | < Reiv> | I should learn Unity though, it's what my mind is made for |
| 02:25 | | * Reiv muses |
| 02:25 | < Reiv> | Vornicus: I felt much the same way |
| 02:25 | < Reiv> | Ironically, I now feel that way because all I write is fucking SQL |
| 02:26 | < Reiv> | Which can get gnarly and hairy, but is not quite the same as Real Programming either. >_> |
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| 08:23 | < Syka_> | :( so i go to fix a PC that I deployed last week |
| 08:23 | < Syka_> | the W7 box now has W8 on it somehow |
| 08:24 | < AverageJoe> | how |
| 08:24 | < Syka_> | I have zero idea |
| 08:24 | < Syka_> | and they don't either |
| 08:24 | < Syka_> | Microsoft, why |
| 08:25 | < AverageJoe> | at work an AV alert popped up for a password stealer for an APK file, but when i investigated, i found nothing of the sort. the AV picked it up when the user plugged in their phone to the pc |
| 08:25 | < AverageJoe> | they vehemently denied the allegation ofc |
| 08:29 | <@froztbyte> | lols |
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| 08:31 | < AverageJoe> | I put in one machine that was infected for a re-image (guy in Sydney) and he calls me up, begging me to not re-image. |
| 08:32 | < AverageJoe> | and im like "dude, you got a password stealing bot on your shit, we work for a credit card company, it would be a GOOD IDEA to just give it up, go take a break or something" |
| 08:33 | < AverageJoe> | 15 minutes later a dell tech calls me up saying the guy wont give it up still. I had to paperweight his shit. log into his router, null route his traffic. |
| 08:34 | <@froztbyte> | wtf though |
| 08:34 | <@froztbyte> | did he have his marriage proposal on there, or something? |
| 08:35 | < AverageJoe> | apparently he was working on something and was willing to risk his job over it. |
| 08:35 | < AverageJoe> | or hes retarded |
| 08:35 | < AverageJoe> | signs point to the latter |
| 08:35 | <@froztbyte> | haha |
| 08:37 | < AverageJoe> | I've been working my ass off trying to convince management, middle managers, the content team, and the proxy team to disable dynamic DNS communications. |
| 08:37 | < AverageJoe> | Since thats how most malware is both delivered and used for communication on since most places block irc traffic. |
| 08:38 | < AverageJoe> | Not making much progress. sucks. too much red tape. too much corporate. |
| 08:40 | <@froztbyte> | this is why I don't really want to deal with general corporate |
| 08:42 | < AverageJoe> | play the game right tho, and its awesome resume filler. i also make bank. |
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| 08:46 | <@froztbyte> | AverageJoe: eh, I make plenty bank where I am, but that's a fortunate thing which not many other people can do I guess |
| 08:47 | <@froztbyte> | AverageJoe: I /can/ run the corp gauntlet though; previous job had lots of interactions with telcos |
| 08:47 | <@froztbyte> | AverageJoe: just not a thing I like doing |
| 08:52 | < AverageJoe> | yeah |
| 08:52 | < AverageJoe> | so what do you do now? |
| 08:52 | < AverageJoe> | if you dont mind me asking |
| 08:59 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 09:03 | < JustBob> | Tsk. |
| 09:03 | < JustBob> | I am having a "I wish I used LaTeX" moment. |
| 09:03 | < JustBob> | Because right now, I have so many nested equations that Word is trying not to crash. |
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| 09:15 | < JustBob> | What the fuck, windows. |
| 09:16 | < JustBob> | Why are you eating 75% of an i5-2500k's CPU power... |
| 09:16 | < JustBob> | Try to run... |
| 09:16 | < JustBob> | Word 2010. |
| 09:18 | < JustBob> | It's only 20 pages of equations. This should not be a problem. :| |
| 09:40 | < AverageJoe> | windows |
| 09:41 | < AverageJoe> | theres your problem |
| 09:47 | < JustBob> | Yes, well, those of us who are not programmers tend to use windows. It's almost like a windows system is the industry standard in non-CS engineering. |
| 09:51 | < AverageJoe> | all you need are 20 chinese kids in a closet with calculators |
| 09:51 | < AverageJoe> | no need for a computer |
| 09:53 | < JustBob> | Good thing I'm better than 20 chinese kids in a closet with calculators. |
| 09:53 | < JustBob> | 'cause I gots me my motherfuckin' abacus. |
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| 11:06 | <@Tarinaky> | JustBob: Dare I ask why you aren't using LaTeX on Windows? |
| 11:06 | <@Tarinaky> | TeXworks is great. |
| 11:09 | <@Tarinaky> | 08:34 < AverageJoe> apparently he was working on something and was willing to risk his job over it. << Like his pron collection. |
| 11:10 | <@Tarinaky> | So it could be both! :p |
| 11:16 | < JustBob> | Tarinaky - I haven't found a WYSIWYG editor that suits me, frankly. |
| 11:17 | < JustBob> | And since Word usually isn't doing retarded things, I just keep using it. |
| 11:49 | <@Tarinaky> | TeX Works isn't WYSIWYG... |
| 11:50 | < Syka> | WYSIWYG is kind of... backwards for tex |
| 11:50 | <@Tarinaky> | I count using 75% of your processor doing word processing as a retarded thing. |
| 11:50 | < Syka> | because it's the complete opposite of TeXs point |
| 11:51 | < Syka> | you describe what you want your content to be, and then you describe how you want the output to look like |
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| 12:15 | | * JustBob points back a week or so at the entire conversation re: LaTeX and why he doesn't use it. |
| 12:15 | < JustBob> | And please, like you've never had a program just go insane and require a process-kill before. |
| 12:16 | < JustBob> | It /normally/ doesn't even show up as a fluctuation in my CPU usage. Shit happens, life moves on. It was just annoying because I was in the middle of dealing with a giant fucking equation and the slow-down threw my train of thought off. |
| 12:17 | < JustBob> | Anyway. WYSIWYG works better for me; visual sort. I can instantly reference and locate what I need with WYSIWYG; I can't do that in LaTeX, and that means that it drives me up the wall when I see \math\math\math\math instead of a properly formatted equation. |
| 12:24 | <@Tarinaky> | You'll forgive me if I drop the matter instead of looking back a week or so. |
| 12:24 | <@Tarinaky> | But whatever it is, I'm sure you're wrong ;) |
| 12:25 | <@TheWatcher> | Especially if you don't write it in Emacs! |
| 12:26 | <@TheWatcher> | >.> |
| 12:26 | <@TheWatcher> | <.< |
| 12:26 | <@Tarinaky> | If you go on the internet, and don't think everyone except yourself is wrong, you're doing it wrong ;p |
| 12:27 | <@Tarinaky> | Although if I was really witty, I'd ask you what you use as a text editor :p |
| 12:48 | < JustBob> | Notepad. :p |
| 12:51 | < Thalass|WT> | heh |
| 12:51 | < JustBob> | Tarinaky - Anyway, it comes down to the fact that I've been using Office since I've been able to type, and I know all of the systems and configs by muscle-memory. Swapping to LaTeX wouldn't appreciably increase the efficiency or productitivity, and it'd take me a while to learn it. Also, the WYSIWYG bit; I've /tried/ LaTeX before, and I even used to use it semi-regularly for some equation-heavy |
| 12:51 | < JustBob> | assignments. But the formatting really drove me up the wall since I format in-line with writing, and since it's not WYSIWYG... LaTeX isn't for me. :p |
| 12:52 | <@Tarinaky> | JustBob: I meant TheWatcher. If he uses emacs as his IDE, what does he use for text editing :p |
| 12:52 | <@Tarinaky> | JustBob: I wasn't being serious when I said you were wrong. |
| 12:52 | < JustBob> | Snort. |
| 12:52 | <@Tarinaky> | It was tongue in cheek. |
| 12:52 | < JustBob> | I was actually finishing my statement from above. :p |
| 12:52 | <@Tarinaky> | Okay. |
| 12:53 | < JustBob> | I'm tabbing between here and my giant facefuck of math. |
| 12:53 | <@Tarinaky> | There're no communal marker pens for the whiteboard in the common area anymore, which is sad. |
| 12:53 | <@Tarinaky> | So now the board looks professional and serious. |
| 12:54 | < JustBob> | Carry your own. Abuse the power! |
| 12:54 | <@Tarinaky> | Instead of having a giant mural of Cthulhu-RMS that needed erasing everytime prospective students visited. |
| 12:54 | < RichyB> | Tarinaky, please tell me that you have at least one photo of that |
| 12:54 | <@Tarinaky> | Now we have some perceptron notes, because the lecturer is shit - so we all badger the stats joint honors to explain it. |
| 12:55 | <@Tarinaky> | There's a photo somewhere but I don't have it. |
| 12:55 | <@Tarinaky> | A cheese of the day in the corner. |
| 12:55 | <@Tarinaky> | Some classical info theory in the midel |
| 12:55 | <@Tarinaky> | *middle |
| 12:55 | <@Tarinaky> | A reminder about the weekly barcrawl. |
| 12:55 | <@Tarinaky> | And my corner where I try to write the scariest and most intimidating math I can think of. |
| 12:56 | <@Tarinaky> | At the moment it's something abouut qubit operations being multiplications by unitary matrices and how the sqrt(NOT) is a 2x2 rotation matrix. |
| 12:56 | <@Tarinaky> | Because I lack imagination. |
| 12:56 | <@Tarinaky> | Matrices are good for looking scary though. |
| 12:57 | <@Tarinaky> | Just because of the information density they have. |
| 12:57 | < JustBob> | Heh. |
| 12:57 | < RichyB> | wait wait wait |
| 12:57 | < JustBob> | Here, throw this problem up on the board and see what happens, Tarinaky. |
| 12:57 | < RichyB> | qubit probabilities can be complex numbers? |
| 12:57 | <@Tarinaky> | Don't have a pen. |
| 12:57 | < JustBob> | "Timmy has five apples. He gives two away. Calculate the mass of the sun." |
| 12:58 | <@Tarinaky> | RichyB: Qubits are 2d vectors over complex fields multiplied by an arbitrary rotation in the complex plane... |
| 12:58 | <@Tarinaky> | RichyB: Their /probabilities/ are given by cos^2... which 'gets rid' of the complex part. |
| 12:58 | <@Tarinaky> | Because squaring a complex number gives a real. |
| 12:59 | <@Tarinaky> | Disclaimer: Ignore everything I say because I know nothing. |
| 13:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Wait, squaring a complex number doesn't give a real does it? |
| 13:00 | <@Tarinaky> | I... know nothing. |
| 13:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Meh. |
| 13:00 | <@TheWatcher> | But if you know nothing, how do you know that you know nothing? |
| 13:00 | <@Tarinaky> | I... don;t know. |
| 13:01 | <@Tarinaky> | I only know that I am a collection of bags of energy that dream they are a person. |
| 13:02 | < RichyB> | Squaring a complex number does not always yield a real |
| 13:02 | <@Tarinaky> | When I die, they will dream they are the earth and one day some of those bags of energy may dream they are a butterfly. And it will be the prettiest butterfly. |
| 13:03 | <@Tarinaky> | RichyB: There's some other math that gets rid of the complex number... somewhere. |
| 13:03 | < RichyB> | e.g. (1.0â 120°)² == (1.0â 240°) |
| 13:03 | <@Tarinaky> | Because the probability is cos^2 of the difference in angle between the two states... |
| 13:03 | <@Tarinaky> | So you take out the e^iA factor because it's physically irrelevant. |
| 13:04 | <@Tarinaky> | Then something-something-I -don't remember. |
| 13:05 | | * Tarinaky goes find his notes. |
| 13:07 | <@Tarinaky> | Ah, I'm being a derp! |
| 13:07 | <@Tarinaky> | If you take the global phase out of the vector as a factor - ie a rotation in the complex phase. |
| 13:07 | <@Tarinaky> | Err, in the complex plane |
| 13:07 | <@Tarinaky> | You get a real vector. |
| 13:07 | <@Tarinaky> | Multiplied by a complex scalar. |
| 13:07 | <@Tarinaky> | And it's the real vector you use to calculate the probability. |
| 13:08 | <@Tarinaky> | And that's how you have qubits as a complex vector space! |
| 13:08 | <@Tarinaky> | Err, not a space. |
| 13:08 | <@Tarinaky> | Whatever. |
| 13:09 | <@Tarinaky> | Vector over a complex field :p |
| 13:09 | <@Tarinaky> | *Unit vector over a complex field |
| 13:10 | <@Tarinaky> | I should go prepare for my meeting. |
| 13:13 | <@Tarinaky> | Speaking of retarded - Skype is drawing 100% CPU :/ |
| 13:14 | < JustBob> | See what I mean? :p |
| 13:15 | <@Tarinaky> | Skype is owned my Microsoft. |
| 13:15 | <@Tarinaky> | I blame Gates. Damn him, and his anti-malaria research. |
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| 13:18 | <@Azash> | You probably got pulled in as a node or something |
| 13:41 | <@Tarinaky> | Haha, there are no russian Malware writers. |
| 13:42 | <@Tarinaky> | All of the Malware for Windows is a cunning ploy to solve AIDS/Malaria/social-injustice crisis through harnessing the processing power of all the world's computers. |
| 13:42 | <@Tarinaky> | That's Microsoft's evil plan all along. |
| 13:43 | <@Tarinaky> | In other news, first year complaining about Javadocing something obvious like x as position. |
| 13:43 | <@Tarinaky> | I just had to point out we have these things called 'units'. |
| 13:44 | <@Tarinaky> | As an example I gave time... then a different fresher said he'd totally leave a function without documenting what unit of time it used,. |
| 13:44 | <@Tarinaky> | :/ |
| 13:44 | <@Tarinaky> | We're doomed. |
| 13:45 | <@iospace> | good fucking gods i'm pissed off |
| 13:45 | <@Tarinaky> | Or maybe it's my background as a Physics drop-out that makes me care about units - I'm not s[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Dure. |
| 13:46 | <@iospace> | i come in early today, expecting good news about the board I need to test. The news? Anything but |
| 13:51 | < RichyB> | Tarinaky, I suppose that now might be as good a time as any to beat them over the head with the accident reports from the Mars Climate Orbiter disaster. |
| 14:04 | < JustBob> | Speaking as a nuclear engineer... |
| 14:04 | < JustBob> | I am so sloppy with units it should terrify you. |
| 14:05 | < JustBob> | As this quote from yesterday morning might indicate: [09:44:26] <~JustBob> Pesky orders of magnitude. Mg/s is not mg/s. No wonder I was, uh. Nine orders of magnitude off. :3 |
| 14:08 | <@Tarinaky> | It's okay, I'm just as bad. |
| 14:08 | <@Tarinaky> | I just make it a note to write down whatever wrong answer i think the units are :p |
| 14:08 | <@Tarinaky> | As a note to posterior about why I am a fuckup. |
| 14:09 | <@Azash> | iospace: What happened? |
| 14:09 | < JustBob> | I am having a hard time resisting the urge to convert all my perfectly sensible SI units to furlong/firkin/fortnight right now. |
| 14:10 | <@Tarinaky> | What's a firkin a unit of? |
| 14:10 | <@Tarinaky> | Mass? |
| 14:10 | < JustBob> | Yup. 90 pounds of water. |
| 14:11 | <@Tarinaky> | All I can remember of the joke is that a furlong/fortnight is about the same pace as a snail. |
| 14:11 | < JustBob> | Nah, slower than that. It's roughly a cm/min |
| 14:11 | <@Tarinaky> | There's a lot of variation in the speed of snails depending on the environment. |
| 14:11 | < JustBob> | Point there. |
| 14:11 | <@Tarinaky> | It's a good first order approximation. |
| 14:12 | <@Tarinaky> | I suppose that's the other thing that needs documenting. Margins of error :p |
| 14:14 | <@TheWatcher> | should use attoparsecs per microfortnight, damnit~ |
| 14:15 | <@iospace> | Azash: lots of things |
| 14:15 | <@iospace> | things i really can't go into :/ |
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| 14:37 | < Syka> | iospace: did the blue smoke go for a holiday |
| 14:41 | | * iospace kicks Syka |
| 14:42 | < Syka> | D: |
| 14:43 | < Syka> | http://blog.docker.io/2013/11/docker-0-7-docker-now-runs-on-any-linux-distributi on/ |
| 14:44 | < Syka> | "As of today, Docker no longer requires a patched Linux kernel" |
| 14:44 | < Syka> | I like how, before this, literally nothing mentioned it needed a special kernel |
| 14:46 | < Syka> | oh, thats cos it just werks on ubuntu |
| 15:07 | | * TheWatcher had never even heard of Docker |
| 15:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | What's docker? |
| 15:15 | <@TheWatcher> | Apparently some means of distributing applications |
| 15:18 | < RichyB> | Ah, the AUFS dependency isn't surprising. |
| 15:18 | < RichyB> | *wasn't surprising. |
| 15:19 | < RichyB> | Linux mainline has been missing any kind of COW union filesystem for ages. |
| 15:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hasn't it had unionfs for like a decade? |
| 15:20 | < RichyB> | I thought so too |
| 15:20 | < RichyB> | but apparently that was always out-of-tree since forever |
| 15:36 | < Syka> | unionfs is different to aufs i think |
| 15:37 | < Syka> | ToxicFrog: docker is like a convenient chroot with cpu/ram limiting functionality |
| 15:37 | < Syka> | that is all ive managed to fi d |
| 15:37 | < Syka> | find |
| 15:37 | < Syka> | i asked some docker devs and they were like herp derp try the intro |
| 15:37 | < Syka> | which explains nothing |
| 15:38 | <@Tarinaky> | http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/7/15/8/enhanced-buzz-28334 -1373889849-9.jpg << Aberystwyth... |
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| 16:18 | < JustBob> | Tarinaky - You'll love this one. |
| 16:19 | < JustBob> | Btu/hr-F-ft |
| 16:19 | < JustBob> | Convert that to W/m-k |
| 16:19 | <@Tarinaky> | Btu? |
| 16:22 | < ErikMesoy> | About a kilojoule. |
| 16:23 | <~Vornicus> | british thermal unit per hour farad feet? |
| 16:25 | < JustBob> | farenheight |
| 16:25 | < JustBob> | And one Btu = 1055.1 J |
| 16:26 | < JustBob> | This is why I hate textbooks that give half your data in English, and the other half in SI. |
| 16:26 | < JustBob> | I wound up saying fuckit and just finding an equation to solve for what I needed instead of using tabulated data. |
| 16:27 | <@Tarinaky> | I would like to emphasise the 'drop out' part of Physics drop out. |
| 16:27 | <@Tarinaky> | Also, that I'm European. |
| 16:27 | <@Tarinaky> | SI all the way~ |
| 16:27 | | * Vornicus tries to figure out the way to get W|A or google to use delta fahrenheit |
| 16:27 | <~Vornicus> | ...probably just have to tell it rankine |
| 16:27 | <@Tarinaky> | (Except when buying petrol, milk, measuring the height of a human...) |
| 16:28 | <@Tarinaky> | (Oh, and beer in pubs - but not when buying bottles from supermarkets) |
| 16:28 | <@Tarinaky> | (I'm sure there are other exceptions I can't think of and just take for granted) |
| 16:28 | < JustBob> | Here's the part that's awesome, Vorn. |
| 16:28 | < JustBob> | 1 F = 5/9 C, because it's not a temperature conversion. |
| 16:29 | < JustBob> | It's just an incremental. |
| 16:29 | < JustBob> | Incidentally, the data I computed had absolutely nothing to do with anything resembling actual values. |
| 16:29 | < JustBob> | The "right" value is ~15.5; I was getting 0.2 or so. |
| 16:30 | <~Vornicus> | JustBob: yeah, which is why I was talking about delta fahrenheit |
| 16:31 | < JustBob> | I'm up to 30 pages. |
| 16:31 | < JustBob> | This is one midterm. |
| 16:31 | < JustBob> | I'm not done yet. Fuck. My. Life. |
| 16:31 | < Syka> | Tarinaky: americans use SI units for the most american of beverages: soft drink |
| 16:31 | < Syka> | (which is sold in 2L bottles) |
| 16:32 | < Syka> | oh and drugs |
| 16:32 | <~Vornicus> | (and 1L, 0.5L, and 3L for the cheap supermarket stuff) |
| 16:32 | < Syka> | everyone uses SI for drugs |
| 16:33 | | Kindamoody|out is now known as Kindamoody |
| 16:33 | < Syka> | really, thats the best endorsement for it |
| 16:33 | < JustBob> | Then explain the grains per mL standard. :p |
| 16:33 | < Syka> | isnt grains a gunpowder thing |
| 16:33 | <@Tarinaky> | Syka: I've seen the Wire, I know drug-dealers are smarter than cops :V |
| 16:34 | < Syka> | Tarinaky: just remember: crime doesnt pay |
| 16:34 | < Syka> | unless it does |
| 16:34 | <@Tarinaky> | Unless the crime's big enough to be able to afford a really good lawyer. |
| 16:34 | < Syka> | in which case it pays quite well |
| 16:35 | < Syka> | Tarinaky: or they have the power to dismiss it in the courts! |
| 16:35 | < JustBob> | Actually, I think the standard "weird one" in pharmacy is "grams per fluid ounce" or something. |
| 16:36 | < Syka> | one measurement i love is the LD50 of things |
| 16:36 | < Syka> | its basically "here is an amount that will kill 50% of people" |
| 16:37 | < Syka> | or at least theoretically |
| 16:37 | < Syka> | so you can play drug-toxicity-resistance roulette! |
| 16:38 | <@Tarinaky> | Technically it's the amount that'll kill a rat multiplied by the ratio between the size of the rat and the size of the ideal human... |
| 16:38 | <@Tarinaky> | So spherical chickens in a vacuum. |
| 16:39 | < Syka> | hehe |
| 16:39 | < Syka> | adds a bit more chance to it! |
| 16:39 | < Syka> | "was it just a shitty batch of rats" you have to ask yourself |
| 16:39 | <@Tarinaky> | It's not a guess if you include your error bars. |
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