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| 01:32 | <@celticminstrel> | How did I get a Firefox add-on installed without knowing it. |
| 01:43 | <@celticminstrel> | Is this a Firefox security hole, or did I somehow do it without realizing. |
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| 02:43 | <@gnolam> | Most probably the latter. |
| 02:43 | <@gnolam> | What was the add-on called? |
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| 12:51 | | * ToxicFrog has a wonderful terrible wonderful idea |
| 12:53 | <@Tamber> | Uhoh |
| 12:54 | <@froztbyte> | best kind of idea |
| 12:54 | <@froztbyte> | "hey guys, check this out!" |
| 12:55 | <@Tamber> | "Hold my beer and watch *this*..." |
| 12:56 | <@froztbyte> | yeah |
| 12:57 | <@froztbyte> | although I have a disturbingly good capacity for managing to do the same thing to software/systems, without even drinking |
| 13:01 | < JustBob> | Hey, one of y'all hold my beer; you guys gotta come watch this! |
| 13:01 | < JustBob> | I reckon there's 'nuff [blah] strapped t' it that it'll hit orbit! |
| 13:01 | < JustBob> | "Dude, you strapped chickens to a cow." "THEY'RE EXPLOSIVE CHICKENS." |
| 13:03 | <@froztbyte> | hahaha |
| 13:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | Spellcast as a service. |
| 13:18 | < JustBob> | Which spellcast? |
| 13:18 | <@gnolam> | Spellmulticast. |
| 13:24 | < thalass> | spellcast the game? What kind of service? |
| 13:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | JustBob: spellcast the pen-and-paper game by Richard Bartle, ported to X11 by Andrew Plotkin and wx by I don't remember. |
| 13:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | thalass: web service. Spellcast in the browser. Asynchronous multiplayer. |
| 13:40 | < thalass> | Interesting. |
| 13:44 | < JustBob> | Ah, okay. |
| 13:50 | <&ToxicFrog> | JustBob: what other spellcasts are there? |
| 13:51 | <&ToxicFrog> | thalass: think Advance Wars By Web, except spellcast. |
| 13:58 | < JustBob> | TF - Given that I had no idea what spellcast you were talking about in the first place... |
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| 14:12 | | * thalass nods |
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| 18:47 | < blabla> | :o |
| 18:47 | < blabla> | warup |
| 18:48 | < blabla> | im new to this city |
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| 21:30 | < AnnoDomini> | Warup? It almost sounds like he was commenting on the NK situation. :P |
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| 21:43 | < Turaiel> | I'm using ./czy < czy.c | ./dzy > out in my shell, but dzy isn't able to read the size of czy's output with fstat on stdin. Ideas? |
| 21:45 | < Turaiel> | I'm just getting a 0 for st_size in the struct |
| 21:46 | < Turaiel> | I should mention that this is C. |
| 21:50 | <&jerith> | Turaiel: stdin is a stream, not a file. |
| 21:50 | <&jerith> | You can't know how big it is until you've read the whole thing and counted the bytes. |
| 21:50 | <&jerith> | And there's no guarantee that it'll ever close over the lifetime of your program. |
| 21:52 | <&jerith> | And on that note, I need to go to bed and feel sorry for myself until I fall asleep and hope I'm less sick in the morning. :-/ |
| 21:53 | < Turaiel> | That's unfortunate. It works just fine if I do ./czy < czy.c > out1 && ./dzy < out1 > out2 |
| 21:53 | < Turaiel> | But for some reason passing it by | is different. |
| 21:54 | <&jerith> | Turaiel: Yes, because stdin is a stream, not a file. |
| 21:54 | <&jerith> | It is a different kind of thing that you just happen to access in a similar way. |
| 21:55 | <&jerith> | Applying fstat to a socket (and thus to a pipe) returns a zero'd buffer, |
| 21:55 | <&jerith> | except for the blocksize field, and a unique device and inode number. |
| 21:55 | <&jerith> | From the fstat man page on OSX. |
| 21:55 | < Turaiel> | So even though the < operator routes the file to stdin, it is not the same as regular stdin. Huh. |
| 21:56 | <&jerith> | No, stdin is always the same kind of thing. |
| 21:56 | < Turaiel> | That's strange, because we were told for the assignment to check stdin with stat to determine if it's the correct size, but then told to use the | operator for input. |
| 21:58 | <&jerith> | It doesn't turn into something else just because you're shoveling data into it from a file. |
| 21:58 | < Turaiel> | So why can I determine the size on stdin when I put a file into it, but not when I take the output directly from the other program? |
| 21:58 | <&jerith> | Oh, wait. I misread. |
| 21:59 | < Turaiel> | Grr. Must leave work now, I'll be back within 5 minutes. |
| 21:59 | <&jerith> | Okay, it look like stdin *is* a real file if you use "<" |
| 21:59 | <&jerith> | But you can't rely on that. |
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| 22:00 | <&jerith> | Because the thing you're redirecting into it could be a named pipe or something. |
| 22:00 | <&jerith> | Anyway, really bedtime now. |
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| 22:37 | <&McMartin> | Huh, Clojure advanced to 1.5.1 while I wasn't looking. |
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| 23:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | Wait |
| 23:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | 1.5 is out? |
| 23:59 | <&McMartin> | Fedora just kicked me to 1.5.1. |
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