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| 00:01 | <&McMartin> | http://www.jayway.com/2013/03/03/git-is-a-purely-functional-data-structure/ |
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| 00:12 | < wolfspy> | Yes? |
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| 03:02 | <@Reiv> | Remind me, what's RAID 0? |
| 03:02 | <~Vornicus> | striping. |
| 03:02 | | Kindamoody[zZz] is now known as Kindamoody |
| 03:02 | <~Vornicus> | each drive contains half the data. |
| 03:04 | < JustBob> | RAID is a horrible abomination against all that which is good and right in the world. |
| 03:04 | <@Reiv> | Your favoured solution, Bob? |
| 03:04 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh? |
| 03:04 | | * Reiv muses as to just how useful striping would be on dual SSDs. |
| 03:04 | < JustBob> | Buying reliable HDDs and backing them up regularly. :p |
| 03:05 | < JustBob> | But I say this as someone who's had more than one RAID 1 array blow up. |
| 03:05 | < JustBob> | Err, RAID 10, that is. |
| 03:05 | <@Reiv> | Raid is not about reliability, but speed & availability. |
| 03:05 | <&Derakon> | I think Reiv was trying to say that your favored solution tends to be a horrible abomination etc. |
| 03:05 | < JustBob> | Ah, well, that too. :p |
| 03:06 | < JustBob> | Reiv - I've tended to run it as a reliablity mechanism. My priority goes Raid 1 -> Raid 10. |
| 03:06 | < JustBob> | And from what I understand, SSDs do not like RAID. |
| 03:06 | <@Reiv> | Yeah, this laptop is advertising, nay bragging, that it runs dual SSDs in RAID 0 configuration |
| 03:06 | <@Reiv> | I stare at this and go "What. SSD wasn't fast enough?" |
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| 10:59 | | * TheWatcher hairpulls at this code |
| 10:59 | <@TheWatcher> | the user must have this permission, or they wouldn't be able to do stuff in other places, so how is it saying they don't have it here?! Argh! |
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| 11:05 | < JustBob> | TW - Alcohol. :p |
| 11:06 | <@TheWatcher> | I don't drink, can't stand the taste of alcohol. ;P |
| 11:06 | <@TheWatcher> | (yeah, that's my problem, right there...) |
| 11:08 | < JustBob> | And yet, you code. |
| 11:08 | < JustBob> | You are a sstranger, more perverse man than many. |
| 11:09 | <&jerith> | TheWatcher: Try banana milkshakes. That's what one of my colleagues drinks when the rest of us are having beers. |
| 11:10 | <@TheWatcher> | Bob: Worse; I code in Perl |
| 11:12 | < JustBob> | You are a sick, perverse man. |
| 11:12 | < JustBob> | Sick, I say. |
| 11:14 | <@TheWatcher> | Yes, yes I am. |
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| 11:36 | <@TheWatcher> | 'help'? |
| 11:37 | <@iospace> | :V |
| 11:37 | < AnnoDomini> | I actually wanted the help file for /nick. |
| 11:37 | <@TheWatcher> | Aaah |
| 11:37 | <@iospace> | https://github.com/Valloric/YouCompleteMe |
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| 11:38 | < JustBob> | I'm not sure there is much of one, AnnoDomini. |
| 11:38 | < JustBob> | I mean, I guess there's some data in the RFC, but beyond that... |
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| 12:03 | | * TheWatcher eyes that github |
| 12:04 | <@TheWatcher> | Y'know, I really do wonder how much time those autocomplete thingummybobs actually save |
| 12:48 | | * TheWatcher eyes this |
| 12:48 | <@TheWatcher> | char *pszRet = reinterpret_cast<char*>(malloc(iLen + 1)); |
| 12:49 | <@TheWatcher> | Why. Just why?! |
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| 12:51 | <@gnolam> | Urgh. |
| 12:51 | <@gnolam> | And Systems Hungarian, too. |
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| 13:03 | <&McMartin> | That's valid in one case I know of - you're passing the result to a C library that will be taking responsibility for free()ing it. |
| 13:13 | < JustBob> | Hrm. |
| 13:13 | < JustBob> | Anyone know how secure/effective google's remote desktop chrome app is? |
| 13:34 | <@Haeroe> | reinterpret_cast, a sign of good things to come |
| 13:35 | < Syk> | http://ondras.github.com/rot.js/hp/ |
| 13:35 | < Syk> | i forgot who was doing the roguelike |
| 13:35 | <@Haeroe> | celtic, I think |
| 13:36 | <@Haeroe> | But, uh, why is reinterpret_cast there? |
| 13:39 | <&McMartin> | Because you can grep for it easily, a feat that cannot be done for C-style casts. |
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| 13:39 | <&McMartin> | (You need *a* cast because C++ will not implicitly coerce void* to anything) |
| 13:40 | <@Haeroe> | Ah, I see |
| 13:40 | | * Haeroe does not C++ much |
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| 14:41 | <@Haeroe> | Anyone know of any decent software similar to unRAID? |
| 14:41 | <@Haeroe> | That's free as in beer |
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| 14:46 | <@Haeroe> | Hey celticminstrel |
| 14:46 | <@celticminstrel> | Hello... |
| 14:47 | <@Haeroe> | 14:35 < Syk> http://ondras.github.com/rot.js/hp/ |
| 14:47 | <@Haeroe> | 14:35 < Syk> i forgot who was doing the roguelike |
| 14:48 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh hey. |
| 14:48 | < syksleep> | yeah |
| 14:48 | < syksleep> | saw it, thought you might have some use for it |
| 14:49 | < syksleep> | either in usage, or in seeing how they did things |
| 14:51 | <@celticminstrel> | I have my own version of Object.create and Array.random (not injected into the prototypes though). |
| 14:53 | <@celticminstrel> | Canvas-based might be better than the table-based library I'm using... |
| 14:54 | | * Haeroe expresses skepticism over Syk's nick choice |
| 14:56 | < syksleep> | Haeroe: wat |
| 14:57 | < syksleep> | i am in the process of sleeping |
| 14:57 | < syksleep> | in that i am in bed |
| 14:57 | < syksleep> | but am liable to drop off at any second |
| 15:02 | < syksleep> | siiigh kb is being weird |
| 15:02 | <@celticminstrel> | The nice thing about this is, I could probably substitute this library with almost no work, because I isolated all the access to the other library into a single class. :P |
| 15:05 | <@celticminstrel> | ...the scheduler would have been very useful when implementing slowing and hasting effects. |
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| 19:14 | | * Alek looks around. |
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| 20:11 | <@Alek> | hey TW |
| 20:12 | <@Alek> | do you python? |
| 20:12 | <@TheWatcher> | Nyet |
| 20:12 | <@Alek> | pah |
| 20:12 | <@TheWatcher> | I'm the Perl one. |
| 20:12 | < AnnoDomini> | Do you catan? |
| 20:13 | | * Alek wants someone to check out his sample game for workingness and proper githubbing. |
| 20:13 | <@Alek> | Anno: er. I've tried it like once, via the web app. connection failed a few minutes into the game, the other players fell away, and I never got a chance to try again. |
| 20:15 | < AnnoDomini> | Alek: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Copypasta/Archive_11#Do_You_Catan.3F |
| 20:21 | <@Alek> | WTFDICT? |
| 20:21 | <&McMartin> | The domain naim alone is why I didn't. |
| 20:21 | <&McMartin> | Unless a wtfdict is what you get after accidentally mutating some keys~ |
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| --- Log closed Tue Mar 05 20:24:09 2013 |
| --- Log opened Tue Mar 05 20:35:55 2013 |
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| 20:54 | <@Rhamphoryncus> | There's a certain special sense of frustration you get when you finally write up a report on a bug that's been annoying you, only to realize it's not in that app at all |
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| 21:01 | <@Rhamphoryncus> | I was going to say it's a ubuntu bug but I'm not even sure |
| 21:03 | <@Rhamphoryncus> | I'm using xfce because gnome's a clusterfuck, the appearance preference had the gtk-oxygen theme selected which tells gtk apps to mimic kde, and ubuntu had gtk2-engines-oxygen:i386 installed rather than just gtk2-engines-oxygen |
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| 21:52 | <&McMartin> | https://github.com/daveray/seesaw |
| 21:52 | <&McMartin> | I like how the Horror of Swing is a capitalized essence |
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| 23:04 | | * Vornicus downloads love2d. |
| 23:04 | <~Vornicus> | I must admit I didn't expect it to be packaged this wy. |
| 23:06 | <~Vornicus> | it's just a standalone app. it didn't even come with a readme or anything. |
| 23:07 | <~Vornicus> | if you open it up you get a... pig. |
| 23:08 | <@gnolam> | A pig? |
| 23:09 | <~Vornicus> | It's a cartoon pig. Just sitting there looking at you. On a background of spinning hearts. |
| 23:11 | <~Vornicus> | okay, I see. you make a folder and put your shit in it and toss the folder onto the aplication and that's how it goes. |
| 23:16 | <~Vornicus> | Which is pretty sensible, all told. |
| 23:20 | <&McMartin> | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2013/02/06/10391383.aspx |
| 23:20 | <&McMartin> | God, I run into this kind of thing with annoying regularity |
| 23:27 | <~Vornicus> | But it's not at all what I expected. |
| 23:27 | <~Vornicus> | McM: oh man. |
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| 23:31 | <~Vornicus> | oh right, that's why I was so befuddled by lua. I need to tell it what its object model is. |
| 23:31 | <@Reiv> | ... oh yes, I've seen that. |
| 23:31 | <@Reiv> | To be fair, the answer is not terribly helpful. |
| 23:32 | <@Reiv> | "Go away and change things so you can do it properly" can often escalate something from "quick fix with a hacky workaround" to "major beurocratic shenanigans beyond the value of the actual change" |
| 23:44 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 23:44 | <&McMartin> | If I'm in a bad mood, this comes to Engineering as: |
| 23:45 | <&McMartin> | "A major customer bought our product to do X, but corporate policy forbids X. Can you do X without doing X? This is blocking our deployment." |
| 23:46 | <&McMartin> | That said, the exact quote: "How do a change a widget's color without using this COM method?" is a bad question that could have been phrased to not hit this. |
| 23:46 | <&McMartin> | "Is there a core system call that will let me shift a widget's method? I'd like to avoid COM if possible." |
| 23:47 | <&McMartin> | The answer might be "You can't avoid COM here", but there are ways to do a whole lot of things to widgets without touching COM and it's not unreasonable to wonder if the reason you haven't found one for colorchange is because you weren't looking in the right place. |
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| 23:49 | < mac> | anyone know of a really good web host that they'd like to recommend? |
| 23:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | http://cadie.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/INTERCAL-style-guide.html |
| 23:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | -- The public version of Google's INTERCAL Coding Style Guide |
| 23:54 | <&McMartin> | "The engineering response to a brain-dead corporate policy is to bypass whatever is enforcing it. Sometimes the policy cannot be changed for political reasons but must not be enforced. This is also what leads to the various patches circulating that disable group policy altogether." |
| 23:54 | <&McMartin> | ._. |
| 23:54 | <&McMartin> | At TF |
| 23:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: you can also zip the contents of the folder and cat the zip onto the exe to get a stand-alone (mod DLLs) executable |
| 23:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | The wiki has full deployment instructions somewhere. |
| 23:55 | <~Vornicus> | Yeah, I saw that |
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| 23:58 | < SmithKurosaki> | Evening all |
| 23:58 | < SmithKurosaki> | A quick question if I may |
| 23:59 | < SmithKurosaki> | I cannot remember the linux command to list all current attached devices |
| --- Log closed Wed Mar 06 00:00:43 2013 |