| --- Log opened Sun Feb 03 00:00:09 2013 |
| 00:27 | | Rhamphoryncus [rhamph@Nightstar-cc6253d6.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Operation timed out] |
| 00:28 | | syksleep is now known as Syk |
| 00:39 | < Syk> | celticminstrel: iOS restores fail because iOS restores are fragile |
| 00:39 | < Syk> | celticminstrel: anything interrupting it can derp the whole thing |
| 00:39 | < Syk> | celticminstrel: take it in to an Apple store |
| 00:40 | < JustBob> | They're marginally better than wonky interrupted windows updates, though. |
| 00:41 | <@celticminstrel> | But I'm restoring from my Mac Pro. |
| 00:42 | <@celticminstrel> | To be clear, the phone is useable; it just lacks my data. |
| 00:42 | | OrthiaLap [orthia@Nightstar-687cbd6a.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 00:42 | | Rhamphoryncus [rhamph@Nightstar-cc6253d6.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #code |
| 00:42 | | mode/#code [+o Rhamphoryncus] by ChanServ |
| 00:42 | <@celticminstrel> | There are two steps to the restore; I got past the first one (restoring firmware) and am stuck on the second (restoring data). |
| 00:44 | < Syk> | i wasn't aware that data restores ever worked |
| 00:44 | < Syk> | I got it to work once - between the same OS version on a different phone |
| 00:44 | < Syk> | but every other time between upgrading it would crap out |
| 00:45 | <@celticminstrel> | What would be the point in them existing if they never worked? |
| 00:45 | < Syk> | you're describing half of iTunes there |
| 00:45 | <@celticminstrel> | I did manage to get it to work when I got a new phone because the first one smashed. |
| 00:45 | < Syk> | it's hit and miss |
| 00:45 | <@celticminstrel> | What, so are you saying I should just keep trying and trying and trying? |
| 00:46 | < Syk> | well try it three times |
| 00:46 | < Syk> | if you have some sort of iphone shell then that might help |
| 00:46 | < Syk> | sort of like android's adb logcat |
| 00:46 | <@celticminstrel> | I don't have an iPhone shell and I don't see how that would help... |
| 00:46 | < Syk> | dunno if that exists |
| 00:46 | < Syk> | android's adb logcat prints out what the device is doing |
| 00:46 | < Syk> | so if it's failing on one part it'll tell you |
| 00:47 | < Syk> | so, logically, if the iphone has something like that, then maybe it might tell you what's falling over |
| 00:47 | <@celticminstrel> | Currently it just says "Restore in Progress", and iTunes says "Restoring iPhone from backup" with an ETA of two hours. |
| 00:47 | < Syk> | does opening itunes from a terminal make it print stuff on stdout? |
| 00:47 | <@celticminstrel> | But the progress bar has not moved for quite awhile. |
| 00:47 | <@celticminstrel> | I will check Console.app. |
| 00:47 | < Syk> | wait for two hours |
| 00:47 | < Syk> | if it hasn't worked, then |
| 00:48 | < Syk> | IIRC it's not very good at that |
| 00:48 | <@celticminstrel> | Initially it had an ETA of one minute. |
| 00:48 | < Syk> | it'll do stuff but it wont move the bar |
| 00:48 | < Syk> | for something |
| 00:48 | < Syk> | might be configs |
| 00:48 | <@celticminstrel> | Configs? |
| 00:48 | < Syk> | like... device configs |
| 00:48 | < Syk> | your settings |
| 00:49 | < Syk> | it would just move when it's done all of the settings |
| 00:49 | < Syk> | but that shouldnt take 2 hours |
| 00:49 | <@celticminstrel> | Well, I see a bunch of "receive secure message timeout!" in the console. |
| 00:50 | <@celticminstrel> | "iTunes: _select_socket (thread 0x...): receive secure message timeout!", followed by what looks like line numbers and stuff. |
| 00:52 | < Syk> | huh |
| 00:52 | < Syk> | is the cable good/ |
| 00:52 | < Syk> | ?* |
| 00:53 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe not. |
| 00:53 | <@celticminstrel> | It's a little damaged. |
| 00:53 | < Syk> | try with a known good cable, then |
| 00:53 | < Syk> | look under a couch, those fucking 30 pin connectors breed i swear |
| 00:53 | <@celticminstrel> | But borrowing my sister's didn't seem to help. I suppose I could try that again though. |
| 00:54 | <@celticminstrel> | Incidentally, if I unplug it, iTunes won't notice, as I recall; the phone will say "Restore Complete" and reboot, but it will be at factory defaults or something. |
| 00:55 | < Syk> | well it seems like its not starting at all |
| 00:55 | <@celticminstrel> | The progress bar in iTunes is around 50%, though... |
| 00:55 | < Syk> | since that secure message timeout might be it attempting to make a secure link with the iphone |
| 00:55 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe. |
| 00:55 | < Syk> | can you try an older backup? |
| 00:55 | < Syk> | or does itunes just wipe them all |
| 00:56 | <@celticminstrel> | It seems to only keep one backup. The only old backup I have is from the previous phone. |
| 00:56 | <@celticminstrel> | There are a bunch of other backups, but they're mostly newer, apparently created as part of the restore process. |
| 00:56 | < Syk> | well |
| 00:57 | | Vornicus [vorn@ServerAdministrator.Nightstar.Net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 00:57 | < Syk> | maybe try a different backup? if it works, then you know it's the individual backup maybe being corrupt or so |
| 00:57 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe. I guess I'll try the really old backup... |
| 01:04 | <@celticminstrel> | Seems to do the same thing, though this time it didn't even get to 50%... |
| 01:05 | | Vornicus [vorn@ServerAdministrator.Nightstar.Net] has joined #code |
| 01:05 | | mode/#code [+qo Vornicus Vornicus] by ChanServ |
| 01:07 | <@celticminstrel> | Now I have a "Could not connect to lockdown port on device". |
| 01:09 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh, apparently it disconnected. |
| 01:12 | < Syk> | owO |
| 01:16 | <@celticminstrel> | ? |
| 01:18 | < Syk> | wut |
| 01:18 | < Syk> | so its still not cooperating? |
| 01:18 | <@Tarinaky> | Is it weird that when I see this: http://www.redbull.no/cs/Satellite/no_NO/Lofoten-360-video/001243307162053 the first thing to come to mind is: "Wow, it's like Myst" |
| 01:18 | <@celticminstrel> | Yeah. |
| 01:19 | < Syk> | hmm |
| 01:19 | < Syk> | dunno, then |
| 01:19 | < Syk> | the whole iOS update and restore is black, undocumented magic |
| 01:20 | <@celticminstrel> | Heh. |
| 01:20 | < Syk> | especially the update |
| 01:24 | <@celticminstrel> | I just tried it on my laptop and it worked. Unfortunately this is a backup from after I updated, which is to say it doesn't have anything important in it. |
| 01:24 | <@celticminstrel> | But it makes me wonder whether I could get this to work if only I could get my backup onto the laptop. |
| 01:26 | <@celticminstrel> | Well, clarification... I already copied the backup over (at least I'm pretty sure that's what I copied), but a) iTunes doesn't acknowledge that it exists and b) the backups that iTunes does acknowledge don't seem to exist in the location where I've been led to expect they should exist. |
| 01:39 | < Syk> | hm |
| 01:41 | | Derakon [Derakon@Nightstar-a3b183ae.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client exited] |
| 01:45 | <@celticminstrel> | Ooh. |
| 01:45 | <@celticminstrel> | I may have been blindly putting them in entirely the wrong place. |
| 01:50 | <@celticminstrel> | Bingo! It worked! I can't believe I put them in ~/Library/MobileSync/Backup instead of ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup 9_9 |
| 01:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Now theoretically it should sync my apps and stuff... |
| 01:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Seems to be working. |
| 01:56 | | Rhamphoryncus [rhamph@Nightstar-cc6253d6.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 02:10 | <@celticminstrel> | So! setTimout! |
| 02:10 | | Rhamphoryncus [rhamph@Nightstar-cc6253d6.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #code |
| 02:10 | | mode/#code [+o Rhamphoryncus] by ChanServ |
| 02:11 | <@celticminstrel> | My setTimeout functions rely on closure from the enclosing function, which makes it difficult to reuse them. |
| 02:11 | <@celticminstrel> | In particular, the fireball exploding function, which exists identically in two different places. |
| 02:12 | | Kindamoody[zZz] is now known as Kindamoody |
| 02:12 | | * Syk bonks her twitter owo |
| 02:13 | <@celticminstrel> | Apparently I can setTimeout(func, time, param) but it doesn't work in IE. |
| 02:13 | <@celticminstrel> | Well fine. Who cares about IE. |
| 02:13 | <@celticminstrel> | <_< |
| 02:19 | < Syk> | rofl |
| 02:22 | | Reivles [orthianz@3CF3A5.E1CD01.5A78C0.03128C] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 02:23 | | thalass [thalass@Nightstar-b95c25b4.bigpond.net.au] has joined #code |
| 03:03 | | Typherix [Typherix@Nightstar-7dc8031d.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 03:04 | | Typherix [Typherix@Nightstar-7dc8031d.mi.comcast.net] has joined #code |
| 03:12 | | Nemu_ [NeophoxProd@Nightstar-a0c8ea4a.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 03:22 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-5d05bada.internode.on.net] has quit [Connection closed] |
| 03:31 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-5d05bada.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 03:31 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 03:58 | | Attilla [Attilla@Nightstar-9e7fa2b2.range86-162.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 04:04 | | Orthia [orthianz@3CF3A5.E1CD01.5A78C0.03128C] has joined #code |
| 04:04 | | mode/#code [+o Orthia] by ChanServ |
| 04:11 | | thalass is now known as Thalass|away |
| 04:11 | | Thalass|away [thalass@Nightstar-b95c25b4.bigpond.net.au] has quit [[NS] Quit: Leaving] |
| 05:33 | | celticminstrel [celticminst@Nightstar-e83b3651.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client exited] |
| 05:35 | | celticminstrel [celticminst@Nightstar-e83b3651.cable.rogers.com] has joined #code |
| 05:35 | | mode/#code [+o celticminstrel] by ChanServ |
| 05:44 | | Derakon [Derakon@Nightstar-a3b183ae.ca.comcast.net] has joined #code |
| 05:44 | | mode/#code [+ao Derakon Derakon] by ChanServ |
| 06:34 | | Derakon is now known as Derakon[AFK] |
| 07:01 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody|afk |
| 07:29 | | celticminstrel [celticminst@Nightstar-e83b3651.cable.rogers.com] has quit [[NS] Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] |
| 09:07 | | Orthia [orthianz@3CF3A5.E1CD01.5A78C0.03128C] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 09:13 | | Orthia [orthianz@3CF3A5.E1CD01.5A78C0.03128C] has joined #code |
| 09:13 | | mode/#code [+o Orthia] by ChanServ |
| 10:51 | | VirusJTG_ [VirusJTG@Nightstar-09c31e7a.sta.comporium.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: Program Shutting down] |
| 11:55 | | Kindamoody|afk is now known as Kindamoody |
| 12:29 | | VirusJTG [VirusJTG@Nightstar-09c31e7a.sta.comporium.net] has joined #code |
| 12:51 | | Attilla [Attilla@Nightstar-9e7fa2b2.range86-162.btcentralplus.com] has joined #code |
| 12:56 | | Vornicus [vorn@ServerAdministrator.Nightstar.Net] has quit [[NS] Quit: Leaving] |
| 13:39 | | ErikMesoy|sleep is now known as ErikMesoy |
| 13:51 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody|out |
| 14:38 | | Nemu [NeophoxProd@Nightstar-c6bcf145.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #code |
| 14:39 | | Syk is now known as syksleep |
| 15:33 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 15:42 | <@sshine> | are abstract algebra questions appropriate here? |
| 15:43 | <@sshine> | I'd ask on ##math@freenode, but it seems like people don't appreciate my questions although I imagine they're not particularly hard to answer. |
| 15:43 | <@sshine> | ah, there's a #math! |
| 15:50 | <@iospace> | :P |
| 16:47 | | Derakon[AFK] is now known as Derakon |
| 17:28 | | celticminstrel [celticminst@Nightstar-e83b3651.cable.rogers.com] has joined #code |
| 17:28 | | mode/#code [+o celticminstrel] by ChanServ |
| 17:52 | | RobinStamer is now known as Vasi |
| 17:52 | <@Vasi> | https://gist.github.com/4702786 <-- I hope I never meet someone with more seniority than I with this attitude :/ |
| 17:58 | <@froztbyte> | well |
| 17:58 | <@froztbyte> | kinda |
| 17:58 | <@froztbyte> | that's the old experienced grouch there |
| 18:08 | <@Rhamphoryncus> | which one? |
| 18:09 | <@Rhamphoryncus> | To me the grouchy one is advocating testing your backups.. and they're right |
| 18:09 | <@froztbyte> | indeed |
| 18:10 | <@froztbyte> | the initial statement was a bit unfounded |
| 18:10 | <@froztbyte> | but beyond that, pretty much in the right |
| 18:11 | <@Vasi> | <-- RobinStamer |
| 18:11 | <@Vasi> | IE: I hope I never meet anyone who so stubournly refuses to test backups |
| 18:11 | <@froztbyte> | ah |
| 18:11 | <@Vasi> | Esp if they override my ability to do so |
| 18:11 | <@froztbyte> | yes well |
| 18:12 | <@froztbyte> | allow morons to suffer the pain they choose to |
| 18:12 | <@froztbyte> | Tao Of Backup, etc |
| 18:12 | <@Tamber> | Get the refusal in writing, put in a safe place, and wait for the inevitable. |
| 18:12 | <@Vasi> | Pretty much |
| 18:12 | <@Tamber> | After all, you were only following orders(!) ;) |
| 18:13 | <@Tamber> | (Doesn't work so well if you actually give a shit about your work, I suspect~) |
| 18:13 | <@froztbyte> | if you do that, just maintain your own side backups |
| 18:13 | <@Tamber> | Of course |
| 18:14 | <@froztbyte> | a few years ago I was at an employer that had very little understanding of how important data was |
| 18:14 | <@froztbyte> | so after a long while of pushing to to get a bigger server, I managed to build up a new VM host, and consolidate the previous *3* storage servers into one box with some nasty multi-smb-daemon hacks |
| 18:15 | <@froztbyte> | (the 3 daemons were still necessary because the morons who wrote the in-house software made it all name-sensitive) |
| 18:15 | <@froztbyte> | the upside of this, though, was that I'd given server planning estimates through as 3*(server(current)*upgrade requirements) |
| 18:16 | <@froztbyte> | so I had a nice little 2TB store hidden away from everyone, and could use it to perform miracles at random times :) |
| 18:16 | <@froztbyte> | had to keep it hidden though, otherwise it'd have instantly been overprovisioned |
| 18:18 | <@Vasi> | 3*(server(current)*upgrade requirements) <-- what do you mean by this |
| 18:37 | <@sshine> | don't you mean 3*(current + upgrade)? |
| 18:40 | | * Alek blinks. |
| 18:41 | <@Alek> | one. letter. difference. |
| 18:55 | <@celticminstrel> | Repeatedly copying a function and tweaking just a few parameters (and the name) should definitely raise a red flag. I think there's a better way! |
| 19:00 | <@Alek> | celtic: not what I meant. but yup. :P |
| 19:00 | <@celticminstrel> | It was unrelated. |
| 19:00 | <@celticminstrel> | I was doing that and then realized that there must be a better way. |
| 19:02 | <@celticminstrel> | This code is ending up with a plethora of function.call(this) things... |
| 19:02 | <@celticminstrel> | I have a vague feeling that this might not be a good thing. |
| 19:03 | <@Vasi> | Try .bind()? |
| 19:04 | <@celticminstrel> | What does that do? |
| 19:05 | | * celticminstrel googles it. |
| 19:06 | | Kindamoody|out is now known as Kindamoody |
| 19:06 | <@Vasi> | > a = 42; x = {a: 1}; f1 = function() { return this.a }; f2 = f1.bind(x); [f1(), f2()] |
| 19:06 | <@Vasi> | [ 42, 1 ] |
| 19:07 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh, well... hm, actually, now that I have only two functions called several times with different parameters instead of ten or so slightly different ones, that could actually be reasonable to do. |
| 19:07 | <@Vasi> | It returns a new function who has `this` bound to the first param. |
| 19:08 | <@celticminstrel> | The functions will still need to use .call, but they wouldn't need to be called with .call. |
| 19:08 | <@celticminstrel> | (One of their arguments is a predicate function.) |
| 19:08 | <@celticminstrel> | (Which is an anonymous function returned by another function.) |
| 19:09 | <@celticminstrel> | ...I have one function, not two. So that's only one bind call, which if nothing else makes my code look cleaner. |
| 19:09 | <@Vasi> | Is the callback the same all the time? |
| 19:09 | <@Vasi> | Because you can give that to bind() too |
| 19:10 | <@celticminstrel> | No, it's different for each call. |
| 19:12 | <@celticminstrel> | Though... it's reconstructed every time with a parameter... but the parameter is a constant... so, for a given object, it will be the same every time. |
| 19:12 | <@celticminstrel> | Hm... |
| 19:13 | <@celticminstrel> | (Well, unless I decide to implement a Fear spell.) |
| 19:49 | <@celticminstrel> | Um... why is /xyz/.match undefined? |
| 19:50 | <@Vasi> | Because it isn't a funcion |
| 19:50 | <@Vasi> | Try .test() or .exec() |
| 19:50 | <@celticminstrel> | ...Mozilla's docs say it is. :/ |
| 19:51 | <@Vasi> | .match is a function of String IIRC |
| 19:51 | <@Vasi> | Yes |
| 19:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Aha, so Mozilla's docs are a little misleading. |
| 19:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Unless you read properly. Duh. |
| 19:52 | <@celticminstrel> | Never mind. |
| 19:52 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody[zZz] |
| 19:53 | <@Azash> | 20:51 <@celticminstrel> Aha, so Mozilla's docs are a little misleading. |
| 19:53 | <@Azash> | That's an improvement; usually they're just nonexistent |
| 19:53 | <@celticminstrel> | No, I just wasn't reading them. |
| 19:53 | <@celticminstrel> | I saw a list of methods and assumed they were all RegExp methods. |
| 19:54 | <@celticminstrel> | But the other column of the table explained that they weren't. |
| 20:01 | <@Alek> | "In modern table etiquette, you hold your fork in your left hand and your mouse in your right." |
| 20:12 | <@Namegduf> | Alek: Love it. |
| 20:29 | <@celticminstrel> | ...how can I get the position of an element with respect to the viewport? |
| 20:31 | <@celticminstrel> | If it makes a difference, the element has a fixed parent. |
| 20:34 | <@celticminstrel> | It seems like I need to somehow mix $(elem).offset() and $(window).scrollTop(), but not sure how... |
| 20:38 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh, I think I got it to work... |
| 20:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Whee, I have a resizable div that shows the appropriate resize cursors at the edge from which it can be resized! :D |
| 20:52 | <@celticminstrel> | Only minor issue is that the cursor flickers when dragging up, because the cursor ends up outside the actual div, but I think I can live with that. |
| 20:56 | <@celticminstrel> | ...wait wait. Why on earth did I write "this.blah.call(this)". o.O |
| 20:57 | <@Vasi> | gj |
| 20:57 | | Vasi is now known as RobinStamer |
| 21:10 | | VirusJTG [VirusJTG@Nightstar-09c31e7a.sta.comporium.net] has quit [Client closed the connection] |
| 21:10 | | VirusJTG [VirusJTG@Nightstar-09c31e7a.sta.comporium.net] has joined #code |
| 21:22 | <@celticminstrel> | There's another place where I do it, but I can't change that; it's like "(this.x || y).call(this)". |
| 21:23 | <@celticminstrel> | Well, I could split it into two statements to eliminate .call(), I guess, but I don't feel like doing that. |
| 21:23 | <@celticminstrel> | ...incidentally, I have a lot of "who.x = (who.x || 0) + blah" in my code. >_> |
| 21:24 | <@celticminstrel> | Well, not with x though. Everyone is guaranteed to have x defined. :P |
| 21:34 | <@RobinStamer> | 1) if you're doing x.call(this) frequently, you might consider adding x as a property of this. |
| 21:35 | <@RobinStamer> | 2) Having a bunch of `this.x = this.x || default` is a sign that you're not using the constructor properly. |
| 21:35 | <@celticminstrel> | Yeah, I was vaguely thinking about that. |
| 21:36 | | Vornicus [vorn@ServerAdministrator.Nightstar.Net] has joined #code |
| 21:36 | | mode/#code [+qo Vornicus Vornicus] by ChanServ |
| 21:39 | <@celticminstrel> | You know, in vague terms the concept of JS's with block is not a bad one; it's just that the way it actually works is silly and pointless and horrible. |
| 21:40 | <@celticminstrel> | If you could do with(blah) {function b() {stuff} z = 5} and end up with blah = {b: function {stuff}, z: 5}, it would actually be useful. |
| 21:41 | <@RobinStamer> | with is deprecated. |
| 21:41 | <@celticminstrel> | I know. |
| 21:41 | <@RobinStamer> | Just making sure. |
| 21:41 | | * celticminstrel is not using it; just got distracted for a bit. |
| 21:43 | <@celticminstrel> | I wonder why my text editor highlights "use" as a keyword... |
| 21:43 | <@celticminstrel> | (Though it also highlights types such as Array or String as a keyword.) |
| 21:48 | <@RobinStamer> | Not sure |
| 21:49 | <@RobinStamer> | I know vim incorrectly marks `undefined` like a keyword |
| 21:49 | <@celticminstrel> | Mine does too. |
| 21:49 | <~Vornicus> | celmin: my editor puts "int" and "long" and "short" as js keywords |
| 21:50 | <@celticminstrel> | So does mine, but Firefox console shows otherwise... |
| 21:51 | <@celticminstrel> | (Meaning that I get ReferenceError instead of SyntaxError when typing in just the word.) |
| 21:52 | <@celticminstrel> | It highlights double and float as well... maybe it's basing the JS highlighter on the C highlighter or something... |
| 21:52 | <~Vornicus> | perhaps. |
| 21:52 | <@celticminstrel> | But that doesn't explain why use is highlighted. |
| 21:53 | <@RobinStamer> | A C++ one probably |
| 21:53 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe. |
| 21:54 | <@celticminstrel> | use is not a keyword in C, C++, Obj-C, or Java. |
| 21:56 | <@Namegduf> | "basing" |
| 21:58 | <@TheWatcher> | it is a keyword in perl, though |
| 21:58 | <@TheWatcher> | *shrug* |
| 21:59 | <@celticminstrel> | unless is not highlighted, for what that's worth. >_> |
| 21:59 | <@TheWatcher> | Maybe it just likes the word, then. |
| 22:00 | <@celticminstrel> | Heh. |
| 22:40 | | ErikMesoy is now known as ErikMesoy|sleep |
| 22:45 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-5d05bada.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 23:07 | | OrthiaLap [orthia@3CF3A5.E1CD01.5A78C0.03128C] has joined #code |
| 23:14 | <&McMartin> | "using" is a keyword in C++. |
| 23:23 | <@celticminstrel> | But "use" isn't. |
| 23:37 | | OrthiaLap [orthia@3CF3A5.E1CD01.5A78C0.03128C] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 23:38 | | OrthiaLap [orthia@3CF3A5.E1CD01.5A78C0.03128C] has joined #code |
| 23:40 | <@celticminstrel> | I've spent rather more time on this than I originally intended to. >_> |
| --- Log closed Mon Feb 04 00:00:23 2013 |