code logs -> 2012 -> Wed, 11 Jul 2012< code.20120710.log - code.20120712.log >
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00:43
<&McMartin>
CURSE YOU PAST ME
00:45
<@rms>
Our past selves are lazy inconsiderate douchebags.
00:45
<@rms>
Thankfully, we are clearly superior to them.
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00:46 * McMartin was looking at some of his old OCaml code.
01:07
< ToxicFrog>
Hrm
01:08
< ToxicFrog>
Is unsigned integer underflow a defined operation in C?
01:09
<&McMartin>
ISTR that the C99 standard insists on Two's Complement simulation if the hardware doesn't do it, which means (0-1) = MAX_INT, but this sounds like a place where you don't get to rely on standards compliance.
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01:11
<&McMartin>
TF: What's the context here?
01:11 * McMartin wonders if this code is really suitable for putting on GitHub yet.
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02:25
<&McMartin>
http://pastebin.starforge.co.uk/531
02:25 * McMartin invites commentary on this set of parameters
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< Derakon>
Ugh, my macports install appears to be borked somehow.
06:15
< Derakon>
That's gonna make it annoying to install ffmpeg.
06:15
< Derakon>
Maybe I should just go for the GUI version; ISTR it includes the commandline utility in the application bundle.
06:17
<&McMartin>
Death to macports
06:18
< Derakon>
Got a suggestion for some other way of avoiding dependency hell on OSX?
06:29
<&McMartin>
ISTR brew is slightly better than macports at this?
06:36
< Derakon>
Hm, haven't heard of it.
06:36
< Derakon>
I'll have to check it out sometime.
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<&jerith>
brew tries to use all the stuff that ships with the system instead of replacing it all.
08:08
<&jerith>
It has less stuff than ports, though.
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< RichyB>
ToxicFrog, AIUI unsigned overflow and underflow are both implementation-defined, or maybe they're defined as two's complement? I don't know which. But signed over/underflow invokes undefined behaviour.
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< RichyB>
Unsigned over/underflow is definitely at least implementation-defined.
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--- Log opened Wed Jul 11 14:37:43 2012
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< Moltare>
Good evening, ladies and gents.
20:46
< Moltare>
I bring to you an interesting irritation for your perusal.
20:47
< Moltare>
I currently have a 40GB drive with 39GB of Windows and apps on it, a 120GB drive with 115GB of games and data on it, and a fresh new 2TB drive with nothing on it at all.
20:48
< Moltare>
My desired goal is a 2TB drive with everything on it, in one or two partitions.
20:49
< Moltare>
Using the System Restore Image feature of Windows has failed me hilariously: Windows demands as many physical drives to restore to as were imaged from.
20:50
< Moltare>
Is there any dark sorcery you can suggest to prevent me having to put the old drives back in, image just the OS drive, copy the data drive to external storage, restore the OS drive to the 2TB, repartition it and copy the data back across?
20:53
<&jerith>
Moltare: Can you clone just the system disk and then copy the data over afterwards?
20:53
< Moltare>
(Secret third option is a fresh Windows install on a partition of the new drive, copy the data across directly, spend hours getting my various apps back; which is looking more appealing but has to wait until tomorrow because I'm a SATA power lead short)
20:54
< Moltare>
jerith: That's the default option at this point
20:54
< Moltare>
I'm just wondering if there's anything I can do to obviate the necessity of doing it that way
20:54
< Moltare>
It only saves me a day, so not the end of the world if not.
20:56
<&jerith>
How many drives can you have plugged in at once?
20:56
<&jerith>
Oh, I should actually read what you said.
20:57
< Moltare>
I can plug in the 40 and, currently, one or other of the 120 and the 2000
20:58
< Moltare>
Tomorrow I can plug in all three at once.
20:58
< Namegduf>
Partition combining: I don't know of any way to do so.
20:58
< Namegduf>
Moving partitions between HDDs is easy with the right software, though.
20:58
< Namegduf>
(Presuming Windows doesn't flip its shit)
20:59
<&jerith>
Why not plug in the 40G and 2T long enough to clone the system, then swap the now-obsolete 40G out for the 120G to copy the data?
20:59
< Namegduf>
(I don't think it will for JUST a HDD move with no other hardware changes, between two SATA HDDs, though)
20:59
< Namegduf>
Yeah, you can do that.
21:01
< Moltare>
jerith: Yep, that's what I can do tomorrow, when I've the power cables to connect both the 120 and the 2000 at once
21:01
<&jerith>
Moltare: You have space for two drives, right?
21:01
< Moltare>
It seems increasingly the case that this is in fact my best bet~
21:02
< Moltare>
Physically, space for three.
21:02
<&jerith>
Well, power.
21:02
<&jerith>
You can have two drives in at once.
21:02
< Moltare>
Aye
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21:02
<@TheWatcher>
All I want is a proper specification of your fucking regexp language, is that too much to ask!?
21:02
<&jerith>
So put the 40G and 2T in, and clone the system stuff.
21:03
<&jerith>
Then swap the 40G for the 120G, boot off the 2T and copy the data.
21:04
<@TheWatcher>
Ah right, it used PCRE, okay.
21:04
< Moltare>
The first step I can do today; the latter not until tomorrow since they both take a power cable I have only one of.
21:04
<&jerith>
Oh, the 40G and 2T take different power.
21:04
< Moltare>
But yes, I think that is the right course of action, and I shall do it. Thank you all.
21:06 * jerith has been known to power a drive from another machine's PSU, but *definitely* doesn't recommend that method.
22:13
< froztbyte>
<Namegduf> Partition combining: I don't know of any way to do so.
22:13
< froztbyte>
it's "possible"
22:13
< froztbyte>
though usually just a cheat
22:14
< froztbyte>
apps like partition magic allow you to do it, given that you have sizeOf(part2) free on part1, or sometimes sizeOf(used(part2))
22:14
< froztbyte>
they then move stuff over to part1, delete part2, expand part1, expand filesystem on part1
22:16
< froztbyte>
hands up everyone who's cloned harddrives by using LVM space created on loop-mounted raw images brought to a single host by sshfs mounts :/
22:16
< froztbyte>
(and yeah, that actually works :( )
22:17
<@Tamber>
How many chickens did you have to sacrifice?
22:17
< iospace>
9001
22:17
< froztbyte>
Tamber: that's not even the worst hack I've had to pull off
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