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| 00:01 | < Tarinaky> | You can produce the same output (as a plasma fractal) with Perlin Noise. |
| 00:02 | < Tarinaky> | But you can also force perlin noise into different shapes. |
| 00:02 | < Tarinaky> | From what I remember Perlin Noise also tends to look nicer. |
| 00:02 | < Tarinaky> | Depending on how much time you're willing to spend on the interpolation step. |
| 00:02 | | * Tarinaky spent quite a lot of time last semester trying to get his head around Perlin Noise >.> |
| 00:02 | | * Tarinaky has, sadly, forgotten most of it. -.- |
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| 00:07 | < RichyB> | The results of most interesting transformations of Perlin noise continue to look good because it's always doubly-differentiable, right? |
| 00:10 | < Tarinaky> | Hmm... |
| 00:13 | <~Vornicus> | It certainly helps |
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| 00:36 | < Tarinaky> | Okay. This is a really weird bug. |
| 00:37 | < Tarinaky> | My program isn't quitting. |
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| 00:37 | < Tarinaky> | When I quit it just hangs. |
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| 00:37 | <&McMartin> | Not processing the Window close/App Quit event somehow? |
| 00:38 | < Tarinaky> | Well, it reaches a debug statement that can (as far as I am aware) only be reached by doing so. |
| 00:38 | < Tarinaky> | Even weirder: |
| 00:38 | < Tarinaky> | I now can't reproduce it. |
| 00:39 | < Tarinaky> | And the only thing I changed was committing the change I made elsewhere. |
| 00:40 | <&McMartin> | Wacky file handle deadlock? |
| 00:40 | | * McMartin dunno |
| 00:40 | < Tarinaky> | Well, I'll just have to hope it re-emerges. |
| 00:40 | < Tarinaky> | Otherwise assume it was hardware. |
| 00:41 | < RichyB> | Hardware is like lupus. |
| 00:41 | < RichyB> | It's (almost) never hardware. |
| 00:43 | < Tarinaky> | list.append(listA) appends each element of listA to list right? |
| 00:44 | < RichyB> | Which language? |
| 00:44 | < Tarinaky> | Python. |
| 00:44 | < Tarinaky> | And it's extend that I wanted. |
| 00:44 | < RichyB> | In Python, list.append adds one element. |
| 00:44 | < RichyB> | Yes, it is list.extend that adds the contents of an iterable. |
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| 00:57 | < Tarinaky> | Ah! It is a reproduceable bug! |
| 00:57 | | * Tarinaky facepalms. |
| 00:58 | < Tarinaky> | Suddenly, I think I know what it is. |
| 00:58 | < Tarinaky> | And it would - indeed - be Hardware if it is. |
| 00:59 | < Tarinaky> | Yes. |
| 00:59 | < Tarinaky> | it is hardware. |
| 01:01 | < Tarinaky> | Well, Operating System at any rate. |
| 01:06 | <&McMartin> | Oh? |
| 01:06 | < Tarinaky> | Linux audio. |
| 01:06 | <&McMartin> | Oh. -_- |
| 01:07 | | * McMartin sadface |
| 01:07 | < Tarinaky> | Like Lupus... there's this one time it is Lupus :p |
| 01:08 | <&McMartin> | We were once teaching someone Python in this channel and their first project on their own failed due to an honest-to-god compiler bug |
| 01:08 | | * Tarinaky giggles. |
| 01:10 | <&McMartin> | It turned out that if you had either a local variable or argument named "top" that version of Python would misbehave. |
| 01:11 | < Tarinaky> | How weird. |
| 01:11 | <&McMartin> | It wasn't hiding its own compiler internals, one of which was a link to the top level environment, which was named "top". -_- |
| 01:12 | <~Vornicus> | No, it was |
| 01:12 | <~Vornicus> | 1. you have a function named top |
| 01:12 | <~Vornicus> | 2. you declare a global in that function. |
| 01:13 | < celticminstrel> | I think I remember reading about that bug somewhere. |
| 01:14 | <~Vornicus> | "python issue 9997" |
| 01:16 | <&McMartin> | That "somewhere" was likely this very channel |
| 01:16 | <&McMartin> | Since this channel is where it was tracked down. |
| 01:17 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Quite the weird bug |
| 01:36 | < Tarinaky> | http://imgur.com/r8JF0 Colonisation now works as much as it will with the schema currently implemented. |
| 01:36 | < Tarinaky> | :D |
| 01:56 | < Rhamphoryncus> | :) |
| 01:59 | < Tarinaky> | Unfortunately I really hate my code base and wish I'd planned more. |
| 01:59 | < Tarinaky> | It's a bit... crap. |
| 02:06 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Mine's like a collection of mutant growths. I wait until one gets too big and hideous, then chop it off and beat it with a hammer until I'm temporarily satisfied |
| 02:07 | < Tarinaky> | Well. Part of it was I wanted to get finished as fast as possible. |
| 02:08 | < Tarinaky> | So I'm trying not to touch code unless I'm either fixing a bug or adding a feature to it. :x |
| 02:14 | < celticminstrel> | I don't think it was in this channel that I heard it. |
| 02:15 | < celticminstrel> | Though I could be mistaken. |
| 02:57 | < Tarinaky> | Aaaand... my mind's gone blank :/ |
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| 05:25 | < Tarinaky> | http://imgur.com/qq9gz I am breaking new limits in how ugly I make the ugly game. |
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| 06:54 | < Tarinaky> | How can I split composite logic statements across multiple lines? |
| 06:54 | < Tarinaky> | if a and b and c and d and e ... else |
| 06:54 | < Tarinaky> | (In Python) |
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| 07:22 | < Tarinaky> | I'm having trouble finding something. |
| 07:22 | < Tarinaky> | In python, if I have a float I'm converting to a string. |
| 07:22 | < Tarinaky> | How do I specify the number of decimal points? |
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| 08:17 | <&jerith> | Tarinaky: Parens. Also, maybe use some other constructs. |
| 08:17 | <&jerith> | all() is good for "a and b and c and d", any() is good for "a or b or c or d". |
| 08:28 | < Tarinaky> | The issue is that the if statement requires everything to be on one line. |
| 08:29 | < Tarinaky> | Because Python is funny about whitespace. |
| 08:29 | < Tarinaky> | But this makes said line the same size as an XBox. |
| 08:31 | <&McMartin> | You can backslash newlines. |
| 08:46 | <&jerith> | You can also use parens, like I said. |
| 08:46 | <&jerith> | if (foo and bar |
| 08:46 | <&jerith> | and baz and quux): |
| 08:46 | <&jerith> | do_thing() |
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| 09:07 | < Tarinaky> | Ah. |
| 09:07 | < Tarinaky> | "Parans" didn't really say much :) |
| 09:07 | < Tarinaky> | Also |
| 09:07 | < Tarinaky> | 08:46 <&jerith> and baz and quux): |
| 09:07 | < Tarinaky> | Err |
| 09:08 | <&jerith> | Tarinaky: Oops, sorry. |
| 09:08 | < Tarinaky> | http://imgur.com/EIO0a \o/ all of the 'basic' technology is implemented. |
| 09:08 | < Tarinaky> | I might have to actually implement some multiplayer soon... scary. |
| 09:10 | < Tarinaky> | I am going for a nap on that note. I have been up all night. |
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| 14:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | Tarinaky: a bit late, but... |
| 14:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | >>> "%.4f" % 5.123456 |
| 14:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | '5.1235' |
| 14:39 | < celticminstrel> | Is that removed in Python 3? |
| 14:39 | < celticminstrel> | Apparently not. |
| 14:39 | < celticminstrel> | Oh wait, I typed python2 by mistake. |
| 14:40 | < celticminstrel> | ...I thought I had a Python 3 installed here... |
| 14:57 | | * TheWatcher eyes git |
| 14:57 | <@TheWatcher> | ... I'm telling you to ignore this directory, so why are you not doing so |
| 14:58 | < Rhamphoryncus> | iirc python3 hasn't even deprecated old-style formatting yet |
| 14:59 | <@TheWatcher> | Oh, wait, it's a shambolic link, so it doesn't need the / |
| 15:24 | < Rhamphoryncus> | watching a DF LP makes me want to play it. Knowing the interface makes me shudder at the thought. |
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| 17:00 | < celticminstrel> | XD |
| 17:15 | < RichyB> | The amount of errors that pyflakes keeps catching in my code is, uh, shocking. |
| 17:15 | | * RichyB takes this as a sign that his brain is wrecked today. |
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| 21:24 | < celticminstrel> | Hm... why is my text not bold when the font is "Arial Bold"? |
| 21:25 | < celticminstrel> | It works for size 14 or 16, but not for size 10. |
| 21:34 | < celticminstrel> | Not a huge problem, but... slightly annoying... |
| 21:40 | < celticminstrel> | Why does Xcode keep suggesting that I switch from GDB to LLDB when I'm using LLDB already? |
| 22:00 | <~Vornicus> | celmin: small sizes looking wrong sounds like the pixel hinting is wrong. |
| 22:00 | < celticminstrel> | I have no idea how I could do anything about that... |
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