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| 01:17 | <~Vornicus> San Luis Obispo Library Women's Temperance Foundation Barbecue |
| 01:19 | < Tamber> | "SLOLWTFBBQ"? |
| 01:20 | <~Vornicus> well, usually they just drop the S |
| 01:20 | <~Vornicus> But this was an actual sign, apparently |
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| 03:14 | < sshine> | I have a stack inside a State monad |
| 03:14 | < sshine> | it's a vtable, and occasionally I enter a scope where I want to add variables temporarily |
| 03:15 | < sshine> | normally in functional programming I'm thrilled because I can just concat a temporary vtable on and do a recursive call and it'll be automatically thrown away |
| 03:16 | < sshine> | but now it seems I have to push stuff onto the stack within the State, and when I'm done it's still there. |
| 03:16 | < sshine> | so in simulating imperative programming I get this drawback of automatic scope changing |
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| 11:48 | < TheWatcher> | Well, looks like I'm going to be writing a Perl primer. Ironically, it'll be for the digital biology people, rather than actual CS students. |
| 12:04 | < jerith> | Bionformatics has traditionally been somewhat Perl-heavy. |
| 12:04 | < jerith> | Although it's been moving toward Python for the past few years. |
| 12:05 | | * TheWatcher nod |
| 12:07 | < TheWatcher> | Most of the later work in the programme here uses perl, so they need a good foundation for it. Unfortunately, looking at the old Biocomputing course, they haven't been getting that >.> |
| 12:07 | < jerith> | And it's /especially/ important with Perl. |
| 12:08 | < TheWatcher> | Yeah |
| 12:09 | < TheWatcher> | I think that looking at the material they were being given has left physical scars |
| 12:09 | < TheWatcher> | I knew it was bad, but.. *shudder* |
| 12:10 | < jerith> | Looking at /good/ Perl can be painful. |
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| 13:29 | | * TheWatcher notes that css needs to be able to support mathematical expressions for measurement fields |
| 13:29 | < TheWatcher> | (14em+12px for example) |
| 13:33 | < gnolam> | But then layout would become /easy/. |
| 13:33 | < gnolam> | (Or you can use an em width/height and a px padding) |
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| 17:44 | < sshine> | TheWatcher[afk], I think mixing em/px/cm is generally ill-adviced because they're relative to different things. |
| 17:44 | < sshine> | TheWatcher[afk], at least I read a discouragement some years ago when web interested me. |
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| 21:12 | < McMartin> | 03:48 < TheWatcher> Well, looks like I'm going to be writing a Perl primer. |
| 21:12 | < McMartin> | Ironically, it'll be for the digital biology people, rather |
| 21:12 | < McMartin> | than actual CS students. |
| 21:12 | < McMartin> | 04:04 < jerith> Bionformatics has traditionally been somewhat Perl-heavy. |
| 21:12 | < McMartin> | 04:04 < jerith> Although it's been moving toward Python for the past few years. |
| 21:12 | < McMartin> | I can confirm this, and it was with some degree of horror that my bioinformatics friend had Perl as her first programming language |
| 21:13 | < McMartin> | Thankfully, halfway through this process they shifted to R instead. |
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| 21:28 | < jerith> | This channel was actually created to help a biologist translate some C code into Python. |
| 21:28 | < jerith> | Reiver: Speaking of that, how is Chalcy? |
| 21:29 | < TheWatcher> | McM: Well, in this case, perl isn't (or at least shouldn't...) be their first language - they should at least have done the java intro course, possibly my C course too. |
| 21:30 | < TheWatcher> | In theory. |
| 21:33 | | * TheWatcher moves that 'be' into the parenthetical where it belongs |
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| 22:57 | < Reiver> | jerith: Actually, haven't had much contact as of late, though we've been meaning to catch up as of a week ago. :) |
| 22:57 | < ToxicFrog> | Reiver: when you do, tell her TF says hi :) |
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