| --- Log opened Sat Nov 05 00:00:47 2011 |
| 00:04 | < sshine> | to learn to have modest passwords so you don't have to spend all day typing them? :) |
| 00:42 | | Derakon is now known as Derakon[AFK] |
| 00:56 | < sshine> | hrm... I've got a Parsec3 parser: variable :: Parser String so variable = do {char '$'; many1 $ letter <|> digit <|> char '_'} that works fine |
| 00:57 | < sshine> | now I want to make that into a lexeme parser by wrapping lexeme around it, and it fails. |
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| 01:12 | < sshine> | if I do: variable = lexeme $ do {...}, I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/NKV6ZEWE |
| 01:14 | < sshine> | ah... darn Parsec3. lexeme needs a LanguageDef. |
| 01:19 | < McMartin> | I'm not sure if I've actually used Parsec3. |
| 01:29 | < RichardBarrell> | You might not have. The default has been Parsec2 for a while now, and a lot of code depends on P2. |
| 01:30 | < RichardBarrell> | In case you're ever wondering why Parsec3's performance sucks, it's entirely my fault. I submitted a bug report about Parsec2 about unnecessary strictness, and he corrected the bug in P3. |
| 01:31 | < RichardBarrell> | Possibly unfortunately though, because the thing I was doing in P2 was quite silly and having a fully lazy state variable in P3 might actually be a problem. ;P |
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| 01:47 | < sshine> | I'm not entirely sure why Parsec3 is good. I just chose it for its higher version number. |
| 01:47 | < sshine> | it seems to be more general, using monad transformers everywhere |
| 01:51 | < McMartin> | Hm, I thought that that was Parsec's whole deal from the start. |
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| 01:54 | < sshine> | right... maybe all I noticed was that its types are ParsecT rather than GenParser |
| 01:55 | < sshine> | what's StateT called, as opposed to some monadic combinator... are they both considered 'monad transformers'? |
| 01:56 | < McMartin> | It's been too long since I've studied this stuff, but I thought combinators were a kind of transformer. |
| 01:56 | | * McMartin could easily be wrong here. |
| 01:57 | < gnolam> | Autobots or Decepticons? |
| 01:58 | < sshine> | McMartin, yeah... I realize that StateT just takes a monad and returns a monad, so clearly it's a combinator. |
| 01:58 | < sshine> | *shrug* |
| 01:59 | < sshine> | I don't know the difference between Parsec2 and Parsec3, except I find Parsec3 harder to use. |
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| 03:43 | | * Vornicus fiddles with various Thoughts |
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| 04:50 | < cpux> | An angry mob that was angry about having no power climbed on a line, brought down the line's transformer, and destroyed it, causing it to leak its greenish-blue chemical lubricant all over. And all because JCP&L bureaucracy has left places without power a week after a snowstorm. |
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| 06:26 | < Eri_> | So, does Linux need any kind of antivirus software? I've looked it up, and I'm seeing a lot of answers in the form "Linux doesn't get viruses" but that's kind of a bullshit excuse. |
| 06:27 | < Eri_> | That's like saying you don't need workplace safety because you haven't had an accident yet |
| 06:29 | < cpux> | I've known computer engineers with Ph.Ds who've said that. Not that that makes it any more valid. |
| 06:30 | < Eri_> | Well, I've heard the argument that it's built safer from the ground up |
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| 06:30 | < Eri_> | But, does that necessarily guarantee that it's impenetrable? |
| 06:33 | < cpux> | For what it's worth, "absolutely secure" is a metaphor for "impossible to actually use." |
| 06:34 | < Eri_> | Yeah, I guess. What I mean is, like, is linux close enough to being secure that I can go about my business without worrying about getting viruses or rootkits? |
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| 07:17 | < kazrikna> | There are anti-rootkit tools, but they're of the "run periodically" bent like the old antivirus tools used to be. |
| 07:18 | < kazrikna> | There's also things like AppArmor that prevent core executables from being updated. |
| 07:19 | < kazrikna> | There exist antivirus tools, but usually they scan for windows viruses. The number of linux specific viruses is relatively small. |
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| 07:44 | < McMartin> | And the ones that will still hit you on Linux tend to be OS-independent - JavaScript-based browser takeover attacks that do temporary key-logging and such. |
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| 13:34 | < Tarinaky> | Death by uml class diagrams @.@ |
| 13:36 | <~Vornicus> s/by/to/ |
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| --- Log opened Sat Nov 05 13:41:47 2011 |
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| 17:13 | < Tarinaky> | Argh |
| 17:13 | < Tarinaky> | I can't get junit to work. |
| 17:13 | < Tarinaky> | My test cases all have @Test in 10f..> |
| 17:13 | < Tarinaky> | *10t high fucking writing >.> |
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