| --- Log opened Sat Oct 08 00:00:13 2011 |
| --- Day changed Sat Oct 08 2011 |
| 00:00 | < Derakon> | Seeya! |
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| 00:13 | | Vornicus-Latens is now known as Vornicus |
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| 00:53 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
| 00:57 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
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| 02:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | ELF executable origami: http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html |
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| 02:39 | < Vornicus> | That is in fact 42 kinds of wrong. |
| 02:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | :D |
| 02:48 | < Vornicus> | http://wins.failblog.org/2011/10/07/epic-win-photos-technical-writing-win/ also. |
| 03:28 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody|nap |
| 03:56 | | * Alek whistles innocently. |
| 03:58 | | * Alek remembers making 2 ASM programs. a warm-boot and a cold-boot, in fact. could have sworn they were smaller. |
| 03:58 | < Alek> | then again, they were on 286, and ELF is an Intel-386 format. |
| 03:58 | < Vornicus> | ELF is also something that the OS uses |
| 03:59 | < Vornicus> | your "boot" programs wouldn't have anything on the computer to tell. |
| 03:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yeah, the goal here isn't "smallest possible program", it's "smallest possible ELF program that linux will execute" |
| 04:01 | < Alek> | mmm. I did call them, albeit from batches. |
| 04:01 | | * Alek nods. |
| 04:01 | < Alek> | and I was on DOS, at that. |
| 04:02 | < Alek> | so yeah, apples and oranges, or something like that. |
| 04:21 | < McMartin> | TF: Oh dear, I remember that project. |
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| 05:31 | < Janus> | Dwarf Fortress is the best game I'll never be able to play |
| 05:58 | < Janus> | If anyone is non-sleeping! Would you know what this thing would even be called? All I'm sure about is that I need to make it happen because concave polygons are terrible. http://goo.gl/9pkhy |
| 06:01 | < Vornicus> | "triangulation" |
| 06:01 | < Vornicus> | Well, the bit where you pick convex things is called that |
| 06:01 | < Vornicus> | (you use triangles because they're obviously convex) |
| 06:02 | < Vornicus> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygon_triangulation |
| 06:03 | < Janus> | Oh, that's always true! The one sorta limitation though, is that the physics thing I'm using can't do really acute triangles well |
| 06:04 | < Vornicus> | that's your physics thing's problem. |
| 06:06 | < Janus> | ... ooooh, the monotone polygone thing in that looks promising. I wonder, if I do a sweet across the x axis, then the y for the split polygons that result, if that'll take care of all the cases |
| 06:06 | < Janus> | ... wow I'm not typing very well |
| 06:08 | < Janus> | ... nevermind, it didn't take long to think of a case where it wouldn't. orz |
| 06:10 | < Janus> | But thanks for letting me know what it is! Knowing what to call these things is always the hardest part |
| 06:11 | < Vornicus> | Do the same axis both times |
| 06:11 | < Vornicus> | That's the right way to do it |
| 06:12 | < Vornicus> | You can thus build polygons that are monotone as you go along the x axis, and then it's trivial to triangulate those, by sweeping along the x axis again. |
| 06:25 | | * Janus tries it out. ... sadly, it takes longer to write the part that lets him see if it's working than the thing itself. |
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| 06:56 | < Vornicus> | Heh |
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| 09:55 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 10:06 | < Rhamphoryncus> | ToxicFrog: Abusing ELF like that is wrong, but appeals on a deep level to part of me that feels linux is bloated. |
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| 12:02 | < AnnoDomini> | TheWatcher: Happy One-Year-Closer-To-The-Grave Day! |
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| 13:42 | < TheWatcher> | AD: thank you, I guess~ |
| 13:42 | < Tamber> | *chuckles* |
| 13:42 | | * Tamber balances a muffin, with candle, on TheWatcher. |
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| 17:46 | < Namegduf> | Today I found out that the "object oriented" elite-clone I installed idly from repositories requires a system-wide "object mapper" daemon as a dependency |
| 17:47 | < Namegduf> | They're not exactly making a good case for their favourite paradigm |
| 17:51 | < jerith> | ... object mapper daemon? |
| 17:53 | < Namegduf> | Yes. |
| 17:53 | < Namegduf> | It's something from GNUstep |
| 17:53 | < Namegduf> | Which it was the only thing on my system using |
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| 18:13 | < Lingerance> | What does it do? |
| 18:14 | < Namegduf> | No idea. |
| 18:14 | < Lingerance> | Name of the thing then? |
| 18:14 | < Namegduf> | gdomap. |
| 18:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | oolite? |
| 18:14 | < Namegduf> | Yes. |
| 18:16 | < Lingerance> | Oh, it's a distributed object thing |
| 18:16 | < jerith> | Distributed objects. ;_; |
| 18:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | What -is- a distributed object thing? |
| 18:32 | < Lingerance> | It's an abstraction layer to help distribute messages and data to multiple hosts. |
| 18:41 | < jerith> | It's an abstraction that leaks sorrow and ichor all over you. |
| 19:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Ok...given that Elite is singleplayer, why does it need this? |
| 19:29 | < Namegduf> | I assume it's because it uses GNUstep, and GNUstep has way way more crap than it needs. |
| 19:29 | | * ToxicFrog goes and looks that up |
| 19:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh, the OSS Cocoa clone. |
| 19:30 | < Namegduf> | Yeah. |
| 19:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | In that case, it has it because the Cocoa/OpenStep standard requires it. |
| 19:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | (well, it doesn't require that specific implementation, but it does require a distributed object library) |
| 19:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | It's part of the OpenStep Foundation Kit API. |
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| --- Log closed Sun Oct 09 00:00:55 2011 |