| --- Log opened Fri Sep 16 00:00:12 2011 |
| 00:05 | | Vornicus-Latens is now known as Vornicus |
| 00:06 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 00:07 | | * Vornicus returns home, having discovered while doing math in his head on the bus that the locations of the corners of the true simplified voronoi diagram of many of the things are actually in irrational locations. |
| 00:07 | <@Vornicus> | This is spectacularly less than optimal. |
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| 01:27 | <@Reiver> | ... irrational numbers what |
| 01:31 | <@Vornicus> | Reiver: okay, so, I'm building voronoi diagrams for tiles' connectivity graphs, like I was describing before. |
| 01:32 | <@Vornicus> | And it turns out that if you've got a triangle of tiles that are connected, the correct location for the corner is actually an irrational location, not on any actual grid tile. |
| 01:35 | <@Vornicus> | s/grid tile/grid point/ |
| 01:35 | <@Vornicus> | Which says to me that in reality, the ms research/hebrew university guys were faking their voronoi diagrams. |
| 01:49 | <@Reiver> | Because they landed on neat numbers? |
| 01:51 | <@Vornicus> | Yeah. |
| 01:59 | <@Vornicus> | Or rather, they chose neat numbers. |
| 01:59 | <@Vornicus> | I don't think "landed on" quite covers it. |
| 02:07 | <@Vornicus> | Even some relatively trivial stuff changes in the real world when it doesn't in the ms research stuff: two tiles of the same color next two different-colored tiles (AA BC) pushes the intersection toward the BC by 1/8 of a tile and it doesn't look like they accounted for that. |
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| 02:13 | <@Vornicus> | But man, this ticks me off. |
| 02:14 | <@Vornicus> | Now i have to go back in and see if I can figure out how they did this, because it isn't making sense to me any more. |
| 02:19 | <@Vornicus> | man, wtf |
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| 07:19 | <@Alek> | Mike washes, then peels, then cuts up his potatoes before cooking. Serge cuts the potatoes, then washes and peels each individual piece. Question: Which of the two programs in lisp? |
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| 07:45 | < Vornicus> | wtf |
| 08:00 | <@Kindamoody> | (cut(peel(wash(potato))))? I don't know lisp... but I'd guess Serge. :/ |
| 08:08 | <@McMartin> | Serge is doing a chain of maps, he is the Lisper. |
| 08:18 | <@Tamber> | (mapcar peel (mapcar wash (cut potato))) |
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| 09:59 | | * Janus pulls and recompiles his windowing library for the first time in a year. Spends the rest of the night oogling over the damage |
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| 10:02 | < Janus> | So. This is why you wrap these things. A few features got trimmed. Like the ability to read pixels. Or write them. Man, my code just got broke, ahaha |
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| 11:13 | < Janus> | and... done. I think I need more coffzzz |
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| 14:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | :gonk: |
| 14:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Fubear> We just found this beauty in the administration area of one of our websites: |
| 14:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Fubear> /csv_download.php?query=SELECT%20*%20FROM%20m_users%20ORDER%20BY%20u_id%20ASC |
| 14:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Fubear> Further investigation of the source reveals: |
| 14:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Fubear> $query = addslashes($_GET['query']); |
| 14:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Fubear> $result = mysql_query($query); |
| 14:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Fubear> The addslashes is a nice touch, it's like he knew he ought to be doing something with the input but doesn't quite understand why. |
| 14:54 | < celticminstrel> | o.O |
| 14:54 | <@ToxicFrog> | GET /csv_download.php?query=DROP+TABLE+* |
| 14:54 | <@ToxicFrog> | >.> |
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| 15:14 | < gnolam> | ... |
| 16:17 | < kwsn> | w00t |
| 16:17 | < kwsn> | finally got my EFI crap working now :D |
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| 18:00 | | AnnoDomini is now known as Zon |
| 18:51 | | * TheWatcher stabs this |
| 18:54 | <@TheWatcher> | `element = new Element('div', {'class': '...blabla...'});` ... do a bunch of things with it that make an fragment of dom tree, then pass it to a function only to get "cannot convert 'element' to object" |
| 18:55 | | * TheWatcher applies dragonfly, finds that it's undefined, wtfs |
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| 20:23 | | * kwsn arghs at her coworker |
| 20:26 | < kwsn> | ok, say you have to store what model computer you're on in a special variable that'll persist throughout different phases. This variable is formatted a certain way, and is part of an enum |
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| 20:27 | < kwsn> | the formatting can translate into a string based on what is is |
| 20:28 | < kwsn> | all the functions that use the value use the regular, non-string code |
| 20:28 | < kwsn> | he wants me to convert it into the string equiv, store it, and then when we call it to get it back, convert it back -_-;; |
| 20:28 | <@Tamber> | ... |
| 20:28 | < kwsn> | just for the sake of human readability |
| 20:29 | <@Tamber> | On the lighter side, I can see where he's coming from; on the "I haven't been huffing butane" side, that's just silly. |
| 20:30 | < kwsn> | he's also worried taht if we change the value of the enum that it may be possible the first part that sets it may be a diff version from the part that calls it |
| 20:31 | <@Tamber> | I think I could see that happening, but I'm not sure how likely that would be... |
| 20:32 | <@Tamber> | Are both the parts that set it, and the part that call it, using the same enum to get the values? |
| 20:33 | < kwsn> | yup |
| 20:34 | < kwsn> | it's basically putting the value in a different area that doesn't get changed during the boot process |
| 20:35 | <@Tamber> | Then I can't see how they could possibly end up differing, without some finagling... o.O Of course, there's bound to be a way... =p |
| 20:36 | < kwsn> | Tamber: what coding are you using...? |
| 20:36 | < kwsn> | as in char coding |
| 20:36 | < kwsn> | i'm getting a few junk chars |
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| 20:41 | < Lingerance> | UFT-8 |
| 20:41 | <@Tamber> | Not quite. UTF-8. :) |
| 20:41 | < Lingerance> | U+2026...e2 80 a6HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS |
| 20:42 | < Lingerance> | It shows in my client as UTF-8 :p |
| 20:43 | < kwsn> | yeah, screen doesn't like UTF-8 |
| 20:43 | < Lingerance> | There's options for that |
| 20:44 | < Lingerance> | ^a :defutf8 on |
| 20:44 | < Lingerance> | ^a :utf8 on |
| 20:44 | <@Tamber> | Why don't think default to UTF-8 already? |
| 20:45 | <@Tamber> | things* |
| 20:45 | < Lingerance> | First one affects new windows, the second affects the current |
| 20:45 | < Lingerance> | No idea |
| 20:45 | < Lingerance> | Oh, I think it's the memory requirement. |
| 20:45 | < Lingerance> | ... and extra processing. |
| 20:46 | <@Tamber> | Heh. If you're not using characters outside of what ASCII has to offer, there is no extra memory usage or processing. |
| 20:46 | < Lingerance> | Actually there is |
| 20:47 | < Lingerance> | It has to see if those characters are multi-byte, so it has to check every character for that on render (which is fairly minor) |
| 20:48 | < Lingerance> | Also finding the character-length vs the byte-length requires the same checks. |
| 20:54 | < kwsn> | hm |
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