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| 00:03 | < gnolam> | Still haven't found the underlying cause, but at least I have a working layout now. :P |
| 00:04 | < McMartin> | This, by the way, is why "platform-independent native-looking system" never means "actually uses the native widgets". ;_; |
| 00:22 | < gnolam> | http://www.lysator.liu.se/~gnolam/temp/2011-08-10_material_composition.png |
| 00:22 | < McMartin> | Not bad at all |
| 00:22 | < McMartin> | Also, hooray for SCIENCE |
| 00:22 | < McMartin> | Are those periodic table buttons clickable? |
| 00:22 | < gnolam> | They sure are. |
| 00:23 | < McMartin> | That is awesome. |
| 00:23 | | * McMartin may be easily amused, but. |
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| 00:27 | < gnolam> | Well, in the source def they're only clickable if the elements have any interesting nuclides: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~gnolam/temp/2011-08-10_sourcedef.png |
| 00:28 | < McMartin> | Neat |
| 00:29 | | * McMartin does like at-fingertips reference material, even in tools intended for experts. |
| 00:29 | < gnolam> | Heh, it's proven useful already. When tagging isomers in the Evil Dataset, I used this for reference. Much faster than looking it up anywhere else. :) |
| 00:36 | < Derakon> | Gnolam: nifty. |
| 00:36 | < Derakon> | What in particular gave you trouble about this system? Or was it just a smear of WX wankery across the entire thing? |
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| 00:38 | < gnolam> | Basically, wx's layout is buggy as hell. |
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| 00:39 | < gnolam> | Widgets with very clear minimum size requirements get squashed, while others are alotted way more space than they should. |
| 00:39 | < gnolam> | *allotted |
| 00:40 | < gnolam> | Occasionally, they seem to grow StretchSpacers where there are none. |
| 00:41 | < Derakon> | ...I had not encountered the concept of stretch spacers before. |
| 00:42 | < McMartin> | ... you haven't? |
| 00:42 | < Derakon> | My knowledge of WX is very much "what I've learned by wincing observation + what I've needed on a case-by-case basis". |
| 00:42 | < McMartin> | Aren't those basically like Qt's springs? |
| 00:43 | < McMartin> | aka "the only thing that makes resizable dialogs a plausible design choice"? |
| 00:43 | < Derakon> | Spacers are easy to do by hand via sizer.Add((1, 1), 1, wx.ALL) |
| 00:43 | < gnolam> | AddStretchSpacer is basically shorthand for fooSizer.Add((someBogusUnit, someOtherBogusUnit), proportion=1) |
| 00:43 | < Derakon> | Which inserts an expandable spacer with a minimum size of 1x1 pixels. |
| 00:43 | < McMartin> | Can you restrict them to a single dimension? |
| 00:44 | < Derakon> | Pretty sure via WX.LEFT etc. |
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| 00:50 | < gnolam> | Depends on the sizer. |
| 00:50 | < gnolam> | The "basic" sizer is a BoxSizer which has a specific orientation. |
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| 00:58 | < Derakon> | I hope you used a GridSizer for the periodic table~ |
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| 01:16 | < gnolam> | ... yes |
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| 11:23 | < gnolam> | ... DAMN YOU, "LOOK AROUND YOU" |
| 11:24 | < TheWatcher> | You're not having to deal with a Helvetica Scenario, are you? |
| 11:26 | < gnolam> | I was looking at the poster draft. It contains the sentence "An experiment was performed to validate the calculation models used by the editor". My mind immediately corrected it to "An experiment was carried out...", and I was already picturing the pen and embossing tape... |
| 11:26 | < gnolam> | *pencil |
| 11:26 | < TheWatcher> | Heee |
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| 12:24 | < Attilla> | What *are* birds? |
| 12:24 | < Attilla> | We just don't know. |
| 12:34 | < gnolam> | Baby birds are called "bees". |
| 12:55 | < Reiver> | Man, the first series was amazing. |
| 12:55 | < gnolam> | Yep. |
| 13:00 | < TheWatcher> | the second was pants, but the first... yes |
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| 13:38 | < gnolam> | http://sotak.info/sci.jpg |
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| 13:56 | | * TheWatcher eyes that |
| 13:56 | < TheWatcher> | So very true |
| 14:03 | < Reiver> | ... Yeah, can't say I can find any flaws~ |
| 14:43 | < jerith> | Yup. |
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| 15:25 | < Attilla> | and it works regardless of where it is |
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