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| 00:01 | | * gnolam flails at wxPython |
| 00:02 | < gnolam> | Why is my control getting sized all... non-Euclideany? |
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| 00:04 | < Namegduf> | gnolam: It can do that? |
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| --- Log opened Tue Aug 09 01:45:18 2011 |
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| 02:01 | < McMartin> | I put nothing past wx |
| 02:01 | < Derakon> | Do tell. |
| 02:01 | | * Derakon looks up. "Ah." |
| 02:01 | < Derakon> | Gnolam: at a guess, you didn't add it to a sizer. |
| 02:07 | < Derakon> | (In which case everything piles up in the top-left corner) |
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| 02:17 | < gnolam> | Oh, it's in a sizer. |
| 02:19 | < gnolam> | It's just that the GetBestSize() or GetEffectiveMinSize() or whatever it's using for positioning is inexplicably off. |
| 02:20 | < Derakon> | You can set that value manually, I'm pretty sure. |
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| 20:19 | | * gnorage stabs wx repeatedly in the kidneys. |
| 20:19 | < gnorage> | RARGH |
| 20:30 | < ToxicFrog> | No, no. Like this. |
| 20:30 | | * ToxicFrog warms up the chainsaw |
| 20:30 | | * gnorage chainsaws wx repeatedly in the kidneys. |
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| 21:37 | < Tarinaky> | Does anyone here use CentOS? |
| 21:37 | < Tarinaky> | I'm having difficulty using 'yum'. |
| 21:37 | < Tarinaky> | I'm trying to install a compiler so I can install a source package and it gives me... |
| 21:37 | < Tarinaky> | Running rpm_check_debug |
| 21:37 | < Tarinaky> | Running Transaction Test |
| 21:37 | < Tarinaky> | memory alloc (24 bytes) returned NULL. |
| 21:38 | < Tarinaky> | I have no idea how to proceed. |
| 21:38 | < McMartin> | That's not what yum is supposed to do, no |
| 21:39 | < Tarinaky> | That's not what the internet says. |
| 21:40 | < Tarinaky> | McMartin: I'm looking at a guide to installing g++ that explicitly mentions yum. |
| 21:41 | < Tarinaky> | I'm beginning to really fucking hate vpses :/ |
| 21:44 | < McMartin> | Er |
| 21:44 | < McMartin> | What I mean is |
| 21:44 | < McMartin> | yum isn't supposed to say that it failed to allocate 24 bytes |
| 21:44 | < McMartin> | It's supposed to go and install the rpms it deduced were necessary |
| 21:45 | < Tarinaky> | Yes... |
| 21:45 | < Tarinaky> | Any idea how to proceed from here? |
| 21:46 | | * Tamber offers a sledgehammer... |
| 21:46 | < Tarinaky> | Yes. |
| 21:46 | < Tarinaky> | But after I wipe it again... |
| 21:46 | < Tarinaky> | I'm not getting anywhere with this :/ |
| 21:46 | < TheWatcher> | Check your ulimit? |
| 21:47 | < TheWatcher> | try 'ulimit -m unlimited && ulimit -v unlimited && yum ....' |
| 21:47 | < ToxicFrog> | Tarinaky: check that you haven't somehow run completely out of RAM, or have some sort of user quota that sharply restricts memory usage. |
| 21:48 | < Tarinaky> | That's possible I only have 192M. |
| 21:48 | < TheWatcher> | Ow |
| 21:49 | < Tarinaky> | Okay. I have a fresh install. |
| 21:51 | < McMartin> | 192M should be enough to run yum, as long as you don't have a gigantic windowing system going too |
| 21:51 | < McMartin> | I'm not totally convinced it will be enough to run g++ though -_- |
| 21:51 | < Tarinaky> | Right. Just tried yum upgrade... and it runs out of memory. |
| 21:52 | < Tarinaky> | McMartin: I can't find an rpm of the program I want. |
| 21:52 | < Tarinaky> | Or rather, I can't find an rpm that I can figure out how to install. |
| 21:53 | < McMartin> | OK, so, if CentOS is like other yum-based systems, yum is tied to some central repository. |
| 21:53 | < McMartin> | g++ will be in that repository. |
| 21:55 | < Tarinaky> | Yes. But I'm getting a memory problem when I try to install anything. |
| 21:56 | < Tarinaky> | top is about as laconic as you can expect, I killed sendmail and apache. |
| 21:56 | < Tarinaky> | No X. |
| 21:57 | < ToxicFrog> | run top and then press M (shift-m) to sort by memory usage? |
| 21:58 | < ToxicFrog> | Also, what does top report for memory use? |
| 21:58 | < Tarinaky> | I dunno how to read top. |
| 21:58 | < Tarinaky> | The web control panel is telling me 13.36M though. |
| 22:00 | < ToxicFrog> | Mem: 2014604k total, 1550992k used, 463612k free, 9752k buffers |
| 22:00 | < ToxicFrog> | Swap: 4192960k total, 1441900k used, 2751060k free, 401632k cached |
| 22:00 | < ToxicFrog> | "total" is total amount installed. "used" is the amount currently in use, "free" is the amount not being used for anything. |
| 22:00 | < Tarinaky> | Yeah, that;s not what I'm seeing. |
| 22:01 | < ToxicFrog> | "buffers" and "cache" are the amount of memory (not swap) used for kernel buffers and the block cache respectively. |
| 22:01 | < Tarinaky> | http://pastebin.com/f3UpdpNc |
| 22:01 | < ToxicFrog> | The amount of memory available for use by programs is free + cache. |
| 22:01 | < ToxicFrog> | wut |
| 22:01 | < ToxicFrog> | top --version |
| 22:02 | < Tarinaky> | procps version 3.2.7 |
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| 22:03 | < ToxicFrog> | Pastebin the contents of /proc/meminfo? |
| 22:03 | < TheWatcher> | ToxicFrog: press 'm' while top is running |
| 22:03 | < TheWatcher> | Tarinaky i mean |
| 22:03 | < ToxicFrog> | Oh. Or do that. |
| 22:03 | < TheWatcher> | (damned tabcomplete) |
| 22:03 | < Tarinaky> | Mem: 196608k total, 12956k used, 183652k free, 0k buffers |
| 22:03 | < Tarinaky> | Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 0k cached |
| 22:05 | < TheWatcher> | ... I don't think I've ever seen a system with 0 cache or buffers before! |
| 22:05 | < Tarinaky> | It's a virtual system. |
| 22:05 | < Tarinaky> | That said. Facepalm. |
| 22:05 | < Tarinaky> | I can make a pagefile. |
| 22:05 | < ToxicFrog> | That should definitely be enough to run yum. Did you try the ulimit thing? |
| 22:06 | < Tarinaky> | Yeah. Nothing happened. |
| 22:06 | < ToxicFrog> | (also, if you run yum in one shell and watch memory usage in top in another, do you actually run out of memory, or is it getting cut off before that?) |
| 22:06 | < Tarinaky> | I dunno. It's all over fairly instantly. |
| 22:07 | < Vornicus> | Fairly Instantly suggests that it's getting failed mallocs but frankly if you're getting random-ass failed mallocs like that then there's something more seriously wrong! |
| 22:09 | < Tarinaky> | Apparently I can't make a swapfile. |
| 22:09 | < Tarinaky> | Vornicus: I have no idea, I've never used a vps before. |
| 22:10 | < ToxicFrog> | What happens when you try? |
| 22:11 | < Tarinaky> | Operation not permitted. |
| 22:11 | < ToxicFrog> | As root? |
| 22:11 | < Tarinaky> | Yeah. |
| 22:11 | < ToxicFrog> | Guess they |
| 22:11 | < ToxicFrog> | 've disabled swap for the VPS then. |
| 22:12 | < Tarinaky> | As you say though... shouldn't really matter. |
| 22:12 | < Tarinaky> | It's unmanaged so I don't have any support :/ |
| 22:45 | < Tarinaky> | I guess this is what I deserve for going with the cheapest hosting I could find >.> |
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