| --- Log opened Wed Aug 03 00:00:22 2011 |
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| 00:21 | < Vornicus> | because I was reading about similar things in other contexts - Atlases will add roads or towns where there are none in order to detect when others are using their data, and dictionaries will add spurious words... |
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| 01:35 | < Alek> | yeah, that IS interesting. |
| 01:36 | < Vornicus> | ANd there's a specific calculation in Excel that will give a wrong answer. |
| 01:36 | < Vornicus> | that they use to check for stolen calculation code. |
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| 01:48 | < gnolam> | Sounds very anecdotal. |
| 01:51 | < gnolam> | Or like a poor excuse for a bug in the math engine. ;) |
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| 03:40 | < Alek> | Saberhagen mentioned the dictionary thing in one of his Berserker stories. XD |
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| 05:43 | < kw\t-2> | night all |
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| 13:10 | < Vornicus> | Hey reiver-for-brains! |
| 13:11 | < Reiver> | Hey Sanity-destroying-behemoth! |
| 13:11 | < Vornicus> | have you coding time? |
| 13:15 | < Reiver> | Hrn |
| 13:15 | < Reiver> | In principle, yes |
| 13:16 | < Reiver> | In practice, it is 12:15 AM and I have a headache. |
| 13:16 | < Reiver> | I may have a poke in like twenty minutes once the panadol kicks in, though? |
| 13:17 | < Vornicus> | all righty |
| 13:20 | | * Reiver has had a Bit of a Day, today. Thing turned out okay in the end, but... |
| 13:21 | < Vornicus> | aw. *gives the reiver a cookie* |
| 13:22 | | * Reiver nrom, also really wishes he actually had cookies this evening~ |
| 13:27 | < TheWatcher> | Reiver: |
| 13:27 | < TheWatcher> | gah, damnit |
| 13:27 | < TheWatcher> | http://myst.starforge.co.uk/index.cgi?block=3&op=view&id=28 - I suggest leaving out the walnuts, though |
| 13:28 | < TheWatcher> | (awesomely tasty oatmeal rasin cookies, though) |
| 13:28 | < Reiver> | why leave the walnuts? |
| 13:33 | < TheWatcher> | Well a) I've never tried that recipe with them, so I don't know if it'll work |
| 13:33 | < TheWatcher> | b) I couldn't anyway, as I'm nut intolerant ¬¬ |
| 13:36 | < Reiver> | hm |
| 13:36 | < Reiver> | I lack shortening |
| 13:37 | < Reiver> | Could butter serve as a substitute, if so, how to modify? |
| 13:39 | < Vornicus> | For every cup of shortening you replace with butter, remove 1/2 tsp of salt from the recipe. |
| 13:39 | < gnolam> | Man, I'm starting to see why people cite standard generic soil compositions all the time. |
| 13:39 | < Vornicus> | So for that recipe - a pinch of salt is appropriate. |
| 13:41 | < Reiver> | hm |
| 13:41 | < Reiver> | I do butter by weights |
| 13:41 | < Reiver> | gnolam: Yeah, soil is funkypants |
| 13:42 | < Vornicus> | Butter and shortening are approximately the same density. |
| 13:43 | < Vornicus> | In metric: 200 grams of shortening, replaced with 200 grams of butter, you should remove about 10 grams of salt. |
| 13:46 | < gnolam> | Not only are the tests you have to do to determine a soil composition ridonkulously complicated and expensive, the post-processing is a science in itself. |
| 13:50 | < Reiver> | Aha |
| 13:50 | < Reiver> | It specified a cup of shortening, I'd never touched the stuff to know what that'd weigh. Thanks :) |
| 13:52 | < Vornicus> | (shortening is actually 220 g/cup, and butter 230g/cup. Both slightly less dense than water.) |
| 13:54 | < Reiver> | (Aha, cheers~) |
| 13:57 | | * Reiver ponders the wisdom of making cookies at 1AM. |
| 13:57 | < Vornicus> | (Cooking: it's like code, but tastier.) |
| 13:57 | | * Reiver admits, it is mighty tempting |
| 13:57 | < Reiver> | (And with more fault tolerance!) |
| 13:58 | < Reiver> | (Except for souffles. Man, they're the fucking C++ compiler libraries of cooking. ;_;) |
| 14:36 | | * AnnoDomini glares at OOo autocomplete selection including the newline for some reason. So if you delete it, you delete the newline. |
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| 14:37 | < gnolam> | "Cooking is science for hungry people" |
| 14:37 | < Vornicus> | use ctrl-z to undo autocompletes, not delete. Or at least that's how it works in Word. |
| 14:37 | < gnolam> | Also: http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/chef.html |
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| 17:39 | <@McMartin> | Awwww |
| 17:39 | <@McMartin> | Vista renamed one of the well known folder IDs. |
| 17:39 | <@McMartin> | It's now FOLDERID_RecycleBinFolder |
| 17:39 | <@McMartin> | Previously, it was CSIDL_BITBUCKET |
| 17:39 | < AnnoDomini> | Bit bucket? Heh. |
| 17:40 | <@McMartin> | This is the first internals change introduced in Vista that I can say was clearly a mistake~ |
| 17:40 | <@McMartin> | (As opposed to "better in the end, but breaks the shit out of backcompat", which was the vast majority of it) |
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| 20:51 | < Derakon> | GUI question for y'all. |
| 20:51 | < Derakon> | Here's the program I'm working with: http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp2/editor.png |
| 20:51 | < Derakon> | What we have here is a 5D array of image data: wavelength, time, Z, Y, and X. |
| 20:52 | < Derakon> | The three wavelengths are superimposed on each other, and then we have three perpendicular views along the ZYX axes. |
| 20:52 | < Derakon> | So for each view you're looking at one slice at a time. E.g. with the XY view, you're seeing only one elevation. |
| 20:53 | < Derakon> | You can move up and down to look at different Z slices, but for that view you only see one slice. |
| 20:53 | < Derakon> | My users would like to have the option of collapsing all of the slices together. I can do this. The question is, where in blazes do I put the necessary UI widgets? |
| 20:53 | < Derakon> | (I would need "project across Z" and "project across time" options for the XY view, and similar for all the other views) |
| 21:34 | < gnolam> | Just append them to the bottom of that dialog? |
| 21:35 | < Stalker> | That's probably the easiest solution. |
| 21:40 | | * Derakon mutters at wx GridSizers, which force you to insert items in row-major order. |
| 21:41 | < Derakon> | Which is making reordering the parameters list into something more sensible a much harder problem than you would normally expect. |
| 22:07 | < ToxicFrog> | wx :/ |
| 22:07 | < ToxicFrog> | There's no "insert at cells" call? |
| 22:07 | < Derakon> | You can use a GridBagSizer to insert things directly where you want them, but that doesn't work with my utility functions. |
| 22:08 | < Derakon> | I ended up just using two sizers, one for each column. Which works okay. |
| 22:14 | < Derakon> | Freed up a bunch of space by moving the histograms underneath the Swap buttons, since they're both wavelength-specific. Wonder why I didn't think of that earlier... |
| 22:21 | < Stalker> | I want to see! |
| 22:22 | < Derakon> | http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp2/editor2.png |
| 22:23 | | * Derakon changes "Align parameters:" to "Wavelength". |
| 22:27 | < Stalker> | That's an even better solution. |
| 22:29 | < Derakon> | Easier to think of if you know what the program does, I'll grant. |
| 22:44 | < Derakon> | Gotta love when you spend some time halfheartedly hacking your way around a problem, only to discover after the fact that you'd earlier come up with a more elegant solution. |
| 23:16 | < gnolam> | Heh. |
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| --- Log closed Thu Aug 04 00:00:38 2011 |