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| 01:16 | | * gnolam hugs the university proxy. |
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| 01:24 | < gnolam> | ... not that it helped, because it turned out that the paper's writers were bastards, and the given reference did not in fact contain the information referenced, but only another reference: the values used were "the same as those used in a previous calculation (19)". >:E |
| 01:24 | < gnolam> | SORRY MARIO, BUT THE DATA IS IN ANOTHER PAPER |
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| 06:26 | | * Vornicus finally gets around to continuing Project Euler, discovers that #113 is in fact a one-liner. |
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| 08:14 | < Vornicus> | good god 119 |
| 08:40 | < Vornicus> | oh, duh. |
| 10:21 | < Vornicus> | Okay, 122. Aystar doesn't work because I don't have a good underestimate; only a good overestimate. |
| 10:25 | < Vornicus> | But the tenth step, the one that gets me to later targets, has a million or so things before it that I have to go through before I find the answer. |
| 10:31 | < Vornicus> | (the rule on A* is that your distance estimate cannot be an overestimate.) |
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| 17:13 | < AnnoDomini> | 17:37 * ErikMesoy becomes conscious of the fact that the shorthand for telling your party "no problem" in DDO is "/p np". |
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| 17:16 | < Tamber> | XD |
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| 17:52 | < gnolam> | :) |
| 17:52 | | * gnolam stabs Python. |
| 18:11 | < celticminstrel> | Noooo! :( |
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| 19:45 | < Vornicus-Latens> | what'd python do to you? |
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| 19:46 | < jeroid> | It made my life better. |
| 19:47 | | * Vornicus gets back to fiddling with 122. |
| 19:56 | < gnolam> | First, it didn't let me copy iterators, and then it didn't let me use a dictionary as a key. |
| 19:57 | <@Derakon> | Mutable objects can't be used as keys, no. |
| 19:57 | < Vornicus> | Okay. Some patterns are clearly arising here; a lot of these are in fact pretty trivial. |
| 19:58 | <@Derakon> | You could do tuple(zip(foo.keys(), foo.values())) and use that as a key, though. |
| 19:58 | <@Derakon> | I think. |
| 20:02 | < gnolam> | That's what I did. |
| 20:02 | < gnolam> | But I shouldn't /have/ to. |
| 20:04 | <@Derakon> | So, when you use a dict as a key, what do you expect to happen? |
| 20:04 | < gnolam> | Well. Without the zip(), since it's bijective either way. |
| 20:04 | < gnolam> | What do you mean? |
| 20:04 | <@Derakon> | I mean, what if there are two dicts that have the same key:value mappings? |
| 20:05 | <@Derakon> | When used as keys, do they point to the same value or not? |
| 20:05 | < gnolam> | Yes. |
| 20:06 | <@Derakon> | So if I do foo[bar] = A; foo[baz] = B, then modify bar to have the same mappings as baz, what happens to A? |
| 20:07 | <@Derakon> | (For what it's worth, you can make any object usable as a dict key by implementing __hash__ for that object...might need __richcmp__ too) |
| 20:08 | < Vornicus> | you need to implement the comaprison and hash to make a dict key; in addition you must never change the object so the hash changes. |
| 20:08 | <@Derakon> | Comaprison sounds like a nasty place. |
| 20:09 | < Vornicus> | I think you only need __eq__ |
| 20:10 | <@Derakon> | Nahh, my Vector2D class lacks __eq__ but is usable as a dict key. |
| 20:10 | <@Derakon> | Then again, __richcmp__ is only testing for equality in my implementation. |
| 20:20 | < Vornicus> | Well, whichever you do, as long as == works you're good. |
| 20:25 | < Vornicus> | The list for 191 is so large it breaks a gig. Definitely going to have to find a better way to do this. |
| 20:25 | < gnolam> | Ah. It's not copied inside the dict then. |
| 20:28 | < Vornicus> | No. Reference reference reference. |
| 20:28 | < gnolam> | Then it actually makes sense. |
| 20:29 | < gnolam> | Unlike its actual complaint that a dictionary wasn't hashable. |
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| 21:23 | < AnnoDomini> | http://roflcopter.pl/5027 |
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