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| 05:58 | < Vornicus> | I seek software: Multiplayer text editor. |
| 05:59 | < Derakon> | Google Wave? |
| 05:59 | < Reiv> | I think he means realtime. |
| 05:59 | < Reiv> | Possibly with a track changes function (ala word rather than svn). |
| 06:00 | < Vornicus> | Word rather than SVN, and something where the file is "local" so I can run it. |
| 06:00 | < Vornicus> | The latter eats Wave's lunch. |
| 06:00 | | * Reiv guessed right! |
| 06:01 | < Derakon> | So you want paired programming with a remote programmer. |
| 06:01 | < Reiv> | That would be the immediate usage, yes. |
| 06:01 | < Reiv> | Though I suspect it's useful elsewhere too. |
| 06:01 | < Derakon> | Since he mentioned wanting to run the file, presumably he's programming. |
| 06:02 | < Vornicus> | Just so. |
| 06:03 | < Reiv> | Other features: A "Ping" command where you can either highlight text or simply your cursor position to draw attention to the other user. |
| 06:04 | < Reiv> | You could also transmit the buddies cursor position in general anyway, but given a lot of programmers have different ways of crazyass jumping all over a file that could prove to be distracting. |
| 06:04 | < Vornicus> | That'd be pretty cool too, but right now I just want it realtime and locally runnable. |
| 06:05 | < Derakon> | Skype and a remote login system would allow someone to watch over your shoulder. |
| 06:05 | < Derakon> | Though you wouldn't get simultaneous editing. |
| 06:09 | < Derakon> | I had some tasty strawberries from Costco earlier. |
| 06:09 | < Derakon> | Mischan. |
| 06:12 | < Vornicus> | So I type into google "Multiplayer Text Editor" and the first thing it comes up with is "MoonEdit" |
| 06:14 | < Vornicus> | Which apparently has batshit keybinds. |
| 06:14 | < Vornicus> | And, um. No drag-select. |
| 06:19 | < Vornicus> | SpoonEdit |
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| 06:21 | < Vornicus> | Simple, appears to have standard text editing tools, but for some reason doesn't have Python on its language list. |
| 06:22 | < Vornicus> | No undo, though, apparently. Which I guess is okay. |
| 06:33 | < Vornicus> | ...but it doesn't manage to actually send anything, wtf |
| 06:58 | < Vornicus> | From StackOverflow: "I never thought of text editing as a multiplayer game. Do you get points for correcting teammates' spelling errors?" |
| 07:00 | <@jerith> | Vornicus: ssh+screen+vim |
| 07:00 | < Vornicus> | jesus christ can't we use one that has sensible controls. |
| 07:05 | < Vornicus> | I guess I should be clearer on my requirements: the other user is not a programmer and has never used anything unixy at all. The shorter the path to "ok I can do this" the better. |
| 07:06 | <@jerith> | Ah. Different requirements. |
| 07:09 | < Vornicus> | So while, if that collaborative eclipse thingy works, it'd be awesome, that's kind of a longer walk than I'd like to take. |
| 07:09 | <@jerith> | etherpad was cool last time I used it, but it isn't local. |
| 07:10 | < Vornicus> | google docs also apparently has a collaboration thing, but also isn't local. |
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| 14:38 | <@froztbyte> | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5508110/why-is-this-program-erroneously-rejec ted-by-three-c-compilers |
| 14:44 | < celticminstrel> | XD |
| 14:45 | < TheWatcher> | .... |
| 14:46 | < Reiv> | pft. |
| 14:46 | <@froztbyte> | check the topvoted reply |
| 14:46 | < celticminstrel> | I particularly like the reply where someone wrote the program in Paint. |
| 14:46 | < Reiv> | Don't even need to. :p |
| 14:47 | < celticminstrel> | Which is in fact the top voted reply. |
| 14:47 | < celticminstrel> | Yes, you do need to check it... |
| 14:51 | < celticminstrel> | And then someone actually wrote a Python script to do it. |
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| 20:00 | < Tarinaky> | http://blog.mezeske.com/?p=377 << Best shell ever. |
| 20:24 | < Tamber> | hah! |
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| 20:26 | | * Derakon eyes the scipy mailing list. |
| 20:27 | < Derakon> | Someone posts a code snippet in which they did "from scipy import *". Another person says "Namespaces are awesome, you should use them." A third responds "Yeah, I used to do "import *" but now I do "import scipy as s" instead." |
| 20:27 | < Derakon> | I really, really wanted to chime in with "As a person who had to maintain code like what you wrote, please please please just import the full name." |
| 20:27 | < Derakon> | Only problem: Sebastian is on the mailing list. >.< |
| 20:27 | < EvilDarkLord> | Is Sebastian a bounty hunter out for your blood? |
| 20:27 | < Derakon> | So I did the whole "The you a month from now is going to have trouble reading your code, plus typing is easy and thinking is hard" thing. |
| 20:28 | < Derakon> | He's the guy who wrote a giant steaming pile that I now have the dubious pleasure of maintaining. |
| 20:28 | < EvilDarkLord> | Close enough. |
| 20:37 | | * Derakon mutters at numpy for returning differently-shaped arrays depending on how many results there are. |
| 20:40 | < Derakon> | Oh wait, it isn't, I just misread how it was returning results. |
| 20:40 | < Derakon> | Never mind! |
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| 22:48 | < ToxicFrog> | The prof gave me the second midterms to mark because, quote, "they're too depressing to contemplate". |
| 22:49 | < ToxicFrog> | He hasn't been having a good semester. |
| 22:49 | < ToxicFrog> | I've now marked some of them and his pessimism seems entirely justified. |
| 22:49 | < ToxicFrog> | ;.; |
| 22:49 | <@McMartin> | "EVERY TIME YOU MAKE AN ERROR LIKE THIS, A KITTEN DIES!" |
| 22:50 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 22:50 | < ToxicFrog> | Considering that if I ever TA this course again. |
| 22:51 | < ToxicFrog> | So far it's about 2/3rds "did not understand the material", 1/6th "did not read the question" and 1/6th "forgot to answer the question entirely" |
| 23:13 | < celticminstrel> | Okay, is it incorrect to pass (ip, port) to socket.bind? (Python) |
| 23:14 | < celticminstrel> | Because it's giving errno 22 invalid argument. |
| 23:14 | < celticminstrel> | But the docs seem to imply that's the right format. |
| 23:14 | < celticminstrel> | (And before you ask, it's AF_INET.) |
| 23:20 | < celticminstrel> | Anyone? |
| 23:23 | < Rhamphoryncus> | as a tuple, not separate arguments? |
| 23:24 | < celticminstrel> | Yes. |
| 23:24 | < celticminstrel> | I dunno if using 6667 as the port would have been a problem. |
| 23:25 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Shouldn't |
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