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| 22:59 | | * gnolam blarghs. |
| 23:01 | < gnolam> | I don't suppose anybody is sitting on a table of beta particle ranges in air VS either particle energy or nuclide? :P |
| 23:03 | < EvilDarkLord> | gnolam: Google seems to turn up a number of results. |
| 23:04 | < EvilDarkLord> | But I dunno if these are the kind of results you need. Stuff like http://www.alpharubicon.com/basicnbc/article16radiological71.htm |
| 23:04 | < simon_> | gnolam, I didn't know that you were a physicist. |
| 23:05 | < gnolam> | Sadly, those are not accurate enough. But I found http://ehs.missouri.edu/rad/isotopedata.html when searching for "positron range in air". Eureka! |
| 23:06 | < gnolam> | simon_: I'm not. :) |
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| 23:11 | < simon_> | hmm |
| 23:11 | < simon_> | can anyone help me detect what type of parsing is being used here? |
| 23:12 | < simon_> | http://stuff.anarcho.dk/haddock.lang |
| 23:13 | < simon_> | it's syntax highlighting for gedit. I'm comparing to to Yacc and noting that <match> expressions are like terminals, and that the <start>...</start><end>...</end><includes>...</includes> for recursive matching aren't trivially like nonterminals. |
| 23:15 | < simon_> | start and end are regexes, and includes give way to a tree of sub<context>s. |
| 23:16 | <@ToxicFrog> | simon_: the documentation you want is for "GtkSourceView" |
| 23:16 | <@ToxicFrog> | Which is the syntax hilighting library gedit uses. |
| 23:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | It's not directly comparable to yacc, it's more like a lexer definition with some extensions than a true CF parser. |
| 23:22 | < simon_> | it seems that <start>foo</start><end>bar</end> is equivalent to <match>foo.*?bar</match>, no? |
| 23:22 | < simon_> | (assuming nongreediness) |
| 23:24 | < simon_> | meh. thanks. |
| 23:24 | <@ToxicFrog> | Um |
| 23:24 | <@ToxicFrog> | Without any other adjustments, yes |
| 23:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | But typically start/end is used to define the boundaries of a context with its own lexing rules |
| 23:25 | < simon_> | yes |
| 23:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | Look at, for example, the string context in Ada - you can't do that with <match>. |
| 23:25 | < simon_> | oh, so you mean that it might implicitly start the boundary after the position of the matching regex? |
| 23:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | What? |
| 23:26 | < simon_> | e.g. <start>//</start><end>\n</end><includes><context>some context in which /s are special, but in which the initial //s aren't considered</context></includes> |
| 23:27 | < simon_> | I don't know Ada strings, but I know Ada number literals. :P |
| 23:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | Um |
| 23:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | I can't make enough sense of what you're asking to answer accurately |
| 23:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | You may want to just read the tutorial and/or reference |
| 23:30 | | * simon_ weirdly enough has the Ada reference manual in his downloads folder. |
| 23:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | No, the tutorial and reference for GtkSourceView language definition files |
| 23:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | My reference to "the string context in Ada" was the one in ada.xml that comes with GtkSourceView - it'll be in /usr/share somewhere. |
| 23:31 | <@ToxicFrog> | If it helps, the main difference is that start/end contexts can contain any sort of subcontext (for example, a string can start on ", end on ", and within it \\. will behave differently) |
| 23:31 | <@ToxicFrog> | Whereas match contexts can only contain subpattern contexts. |
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