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| 08:46 | < Anno[Laptop]> | Is there a way to resize the terminal with PyCurses? |
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| 08:54 | | * Anno[Laptop] also curses pycurses. Why couldn't it have printw()? And resizeterm(), while it's at it. |
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| 10:47 | | * TheWatcher readsup, suggests Anno larn Perl and use the Curses module instead~ |
| 11:02 | < Anno[Laptop]> | I know Perl somewhat. |
| 11:09 | < Anno[Laptop]> | I am unsure whether your suggestion is serious. |
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| 11:42 | <@TheWatcher> | As far as I'm aware, perl's curses module basically gives you an almost complete interface to the curses library, with a few functions unified to make life easier. I've never actually used it, but before now I've run into discussions of it, and it is apparently pretty decent if you know curses. |
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| 13:25 | < Anno[Laptop]> | What's a good IDE for Perl? |
| 13:28 | <@TheWatcher> | Buggered if I know, I only ever use emacs. |
| 13:29 | <@TheWatcher> | (I don't do IDEs, for any language, so..) |
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| 15:01 | | * Anno[Laptop] is dissatisfied with his options here. C/C++ is hard to improvise in and lacks serialization, Java doesn't have console handling worth a good goddamn, Python's curses implementation is balls, and Perl is, well, Perl. |
| 15:07 | < celticminstrel> | C++ does have serialization, with Boost. |
| 15:07 | < celticminstrel> | And Curses in C is even worse than in Python. |
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| 15:11 | < Anno[Laptop]> | My experience with curses in C has been generally positive. |
| 15:12 | < celticminstrel> | Well, it's harder to use, anyway. Maybe it works better though. |
| 15:15 | < gnolam> | What are you attempting to do, exactly? |
| 15:16 | < Anno[Laptop]> | Console game. |
| 15:24 | < gnolam> | ... I assume you mean console as in "terminal" and not as in "Nintendo". :) |
| 15:24 | < gnolam> | Roguelike? |
| 15:26 | < Anno[Laptop]> | Not a roguelike. I have something in mind that's more of a cross between LCS and JA. |
| 15:26 | < gnolam> | LCS? |
| 15:27 | < Anno[Laptop]> | Liberal Crime Squad. |
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| 15:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | Anno[Laptop]: what's wrong with Python's curses binding? |
| 15:58 | < Anno[Laptop]> | Not allowing me to write to the bottom-right corner of the screen, and no apparent way to resize the terminal. |
| 16:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | What happens when you window.addchr() in the bottom right? |
| 16:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | addch(), sorr5y |
| 16:02 | < Anno[Laptop]> | Curses returns ERR. |
| 16:06 | <@ToxicFrog> | I suspect you're using it wrong, then, because you most certainly can place characters anywhere on the screen using pycurses. |
| 16:06 | <@ToxicFrog> | Pastebin a minimal test case? |
| 16:08 | <@ToxicFrog> | As for resizing the terminal from curses, I'm pretty sure that's not possible in C, either; as a general rule, tty programs either adapt to the given screen size, assume 80x24, or rely on the user resizing the terminal to the correct size (possibly automatically as part of a launcher script). |
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| 16:16 | < Anno[Laptop]> | http://pastie.org/1349625 |
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| 16:29 | < celticminstrel> | Yeah, pretty sure you can't change the size of a console window programmatically, at least not with curses. |
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| 16:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | Anno[Laptop]: http://pastie.org/1349708 |
| 16:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | This is not a problem with Python's curses binding, but with the underlying curses library. |
| 16:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | What is happening is that when you try to write to the lower right corner, it tries to move the cursor off the end of the last line. |
| 16:57 | <@ToxicFrog> | if scrollok is set, this causes it to scroll one line. |
| 16:57 | <@ToxicFrog> | If it is not set, this cannot be done and it returns ERR. |
| 16:57 | <@ToxicFrog> | The solution in both C and Python is to ignore the error it reports. |
| 16:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | (the character will be correctly written to the screen, the error is only related to the cursor positioning afterwards) |
| 16:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | The code I pasted demonstrates this, along with the use of getmaxyx to adapt to terminal size and curses.wrapper to obviate the need for a try/finally cleanup block. |
| 17:09 | < Anno[Laptop]> | Cool. Thanks. |
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