code logs -> 2010 -> Mon, 30 Aug 2010< code.20100829.log - code.20100831.log >
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--- Log opened Mon Aug 30 14:12:09 2010
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--- Log opened Mon Aug 30 14:40:51 2010
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14:44
< Orthia>
REND AND KILL.
14:45
< Orthia>
Why on earth did mIRC have to do something as moronic as specifying line numbers in its script files? ;_;
14:45
< Orthia>
I cannot get it to successfully line-compare as a result.
14:47
<@AnnoDomini>
You're not supposed to look at that in a text editor. :P
14:48
< Orthia>
How else am I to merge KarmaBot and DiceBots scripts together? ;_;
14:48
< Orthia>
They forked, and I wish to unfork them.
14:49
< celticminstrel>
Write a script to remove the line numbers then?
14:52
< Orthia>
Yeah.
14:53
< Orthia>
I'd have to put them back in at the end, mind.
14:55
<@AnnoDomini>
Orthia: Open KB and DB in mIRC, normally.
14:55
<@AnnoDomini>
Copy the code you get from the script editor, paste into files.
14:55
<@AnnoDomini>
The script editor strips out line numbers.
14:57
< Orthia>
insanity
14:57
< Orthia>
(cheers, hadn't thought of that~)
15:03
< Orthia>
... huh.
15:03
< Orthia>
These are fairly radically different.
15:03
< Orthia>
This shall be interesting.
15:04 * TheWatcher vaguely stabs the apache developers
15:06
<@AnnoDomini>
Orthia: Are you comparing DB with KB 2.x?
15:08
< ToxicFrog>
Orthia: no revision control system, you're merging by hand?
15:09
<@AnnoDomini>
ToxicFrog: This is an organically grown mIRC script, no other tools used.
15:10
< Tarinaky>
You make it sound like you scrapped its spores off a damp wall.
15:10
<@AnnoDomini>
I speak for KB, since I'm the developer. Reiver might have used something to help his modification of KB 1.x into DB.
15:11
< Orthia>
No, I pretty much modified things in-stu as well.
15:12
< Orthia>
And KB2.0 is indeed a wee tad different, yes.
15:12
< Orthia>
I hadn't realised you'd changed so much.
15:12
<@AnnoDomini>
I overhauled the dice parser, cleaned out the variables, and tweaked a bit.
15:12
< Orthia>
And am honestly curious as to why, as it seems to have created a fairly considerable amount of boilerplate, at least in the alias files.
15:12
< Orthia>
(so many -u0 >_>)
15:13
< Orthia>
Yeah, it's... considerable.
15:13
<@AnnoDomini>
I need -u0 because otherwise I need to keep track of variables like %x, %xx, %xxx and the like and try to make them not be modified by two scripts simultaneously.
15:13
< Orthia>
I am tempted to instead go through and cherrypick the alterations I have and you haven't, then rewrite them entirely then fit them into KB2.0.
15:13
< Orthia>
The other direction is kind of not going to be practical.
15:14
<@AnnoDomini>
The regular assignment makes a permanent variable, which gets stored in a file. -u0 makes a variable which goes away at the end of the script.
15:14
<@AnnoDomini>
Also, I prefixed all variables with scriptname_.
15:18
< Orthia>
What I see different/'superior' are !gold (Though this may be misreading the script, though I know I upgraded the origional) + !range in mine, and !exalted, !matrix and general presumably tweaks in yours.
15:19
< Orthia>
Also mine lacked the Spy tomfoolery yours had because I didn't need to worry about session limits the same degree. Did you still have that in KB2.x?
15:22
<@AnnoDomini>
I don't remember.
15:23
< Orthia>
I presume you are rusty enough with the code you'd be unable to help me rewrite my scripts to KB2.0 standard?
15:23
<@AnnoDomini>
Yeah, I think it's still there.
15:24
< Orthia>
Well, I'm sure I can root it out, if only enough to break it~
15:24
<@AnnoDomini>
You did it once, you can do it again.
15:25
< Orthia>
Indeed.
15:25
< Orthia>
I think I just wiped the remote triggers for it or something.
15:25
< Orthia>
Real fun will be rewriting the scripts, then inserting the !space command.
15:27
<@AnnoDomini>
The script dispatcher is mostly unmodified, I think. I don't remember modifying it much.
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19:18 * Derakon mutters at differences in how he approaches time management vs. how his boss wants him to approach time management.
19:18
<@Derakon>
To wit: my boss wants me to spend 20% on the scope, 40% on two separate post-processing programs that I'm creating out of whole cloth, and 40% on investigating new ways to use a denoising algorithm, each week.
19:19
<@Derakon>
Whereas I spent all of last week on the post-processing programs (the scope being monopolized by a visiting biologist). He wasn't too happy to hear I'd made no progress on denoising.
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20:29
<@TheWatcher>
He really has no idea how a hacker works, does he/
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20:30
< Abu[Laptop]>
Who?
20:30
<@Derakon>
My boss, who wants me to split my time four ways each week.
20:30
<@TheWatcher>
Dera's boss
20:30
<@Derakon>
Ond no, no he doesn't.
20:30
<@Derakon>
s/Ond/And/
20:31 * TheWatcher is very, very grateful that his boss just lets him organise himself
20:42 * gnolam too.
20:58
<@Derakon>
I think part of the issue here is that I don't have deadlines or, really, any kind of external time pressure.
20:58
<@Derakon>
I just have projects that my boss wants to see progress on, and he wants to see progress on all of them every week.
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21:40
< McMartin>
God damn it, Windows, what's with this being actually secure on parts that are in my way
21:47
< simon_>
almost a week of idle!
22:06
< gnolam>
McMartin: ?
22:10 * Derakon goes in search of a set of files that define optical transfer functions, discovers a directory full of .otf files, including TryThisYuri.otf.
22:43
< McMartin>
gnolam: Writing a device driver, can't use the handles passed into me by the OS because they belong to the user to minimize damage
22:57
< gnolam>
Ah
22:58
< McMartin>
Which is actually, like, the right thing to do, especially since it's part of a stack that includes third-party filters (like us), so trust needs to be managed...
23:03
<@Derakon>
I love it when fixing a bug involves removing a dependency from a module...
23:04
<@Derakon>
(The "set electron multiplication gain mode on the camera" function for the camera module used to have to update the GUI, but now the GUI updates itself before calling that function)
23:25 * McMartin is informed by a co-worker that we're actually doing almost the right thing elsewhere - McMartin misread the error code.
23:25
< McMartin>
Having co-workers who are familiar with the codebase is p. awesome
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23:35
<@Derakon>
McM: ;_;
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23:41 * TheWatcher \o/s, has excel sheet to html table conversion with proper merged cell handling and interactive header cell marking working, now has to fix up popup column marking
23:43 * Derakon mutters at WX, tries to figure out how to slap a scrollbar onto a window.
23:43
<@Derakon>
You would not think this would be difficult.
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23:51
< McMartin>
Derakon: If it works like most other GUI systems I'm used to, you have to take your current widget and embed it inside some new scrollable widget.
23:52
<@Derakon>
Documentation for the proper way to do this is eluding me, is the problem.
--- Log closed Tue Aug 31 00:00:37 2010
code logs -> 2010 -> Mon, 30 Aug 2010< code.20100829.log - code.20100831.log >