| --- Log opened Sun Apr 18 00:00:33 2010 |
| --- Day changed Sun Apr 18 2010 |
| 00:00 | <@AnnoDomini> | I would also like to make such a data structure, like a custom IList with all the fields I need, but I don't have the faintest idea how. |
| 00:02 | | * AnnoDomini is going to try using a raw SQL query, in case this is something with the goddamn ORM rather than the lists. |
| 00:05 | <@AnnoDomini> | Nope, still getting an IList of Object[]. |
| 00:18 | < gnolam> | McMartin: To stabbing Sun's lazy, incompetent devs or my game?~ |
| 00:19 | | * AnnoDomini haaaaaaaates NHibernate. |
| 00:28 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
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| 00:43 | < RichardBarrell> | I still don't get why anybody would want to use an ORM. |
| 00:44 | < RichardBarrell> | If you want to use an ODB, just use an ODB. There exist good ACID ODBs, I use one from day to day at work. (ZODB, which kinda rocks if you happen to want to use Python). |
| 00:44 | < RichardBarrell> | But other than that, relational algebra is itself a really good abstraction. Why do people want to get *away* from that? |
| 00:45 | <@AnnoDomini> | I do not WANT any of this. |
| 00:45 | <@AnnoDomini> | I NEED it to pass this class. |
| 00:45 | <@AnnoDomini> | When the lecturer says "do this in NHibernate" I bloody well do it in NHibernate or get failed. |
| 00:46 | < Namegduf> | Every problem with conflicting designs, issues with design, or models that don't fit together, can be solved by gluing more things into the design. |
| 00:46 | < Namegduf> | I think people just apply that solution too far. :P |
| 00:47 | | * AnnoDomini posts a question on Stack Overflow, which is really nice. |
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| 00:56 | < gnolam> | http://www.lysator.liu.se/~gnolam/temp/ocean_soft_lens.png <- what it looks like |
| 01:05 | < PinkFreud> | bizarre |
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| 01:49 | < RichardBarrell> | Boat!? |
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| 02:08 | < Namegduf> | Maybe someone here will know- I doubt I'll get time, but is there an effective method for writing JUnit tests for a Swing interface? |
| 02:10 | | * Namegduf isn't sure how one would "test" an interface |
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| 02:19 | <@Vornicus> | There's the awt robot |
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| 02:38 | <@Kazriko> | -_- Apparently the 3rd monitor on my ATI card has to be hooked in through DisplayPort. HDMI won't work. |
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| 03:52 | < celticminstrel> | Hm. If you "kill pages" in Google Chrome, do the corresponding tabs close? |
| 03:53 | < Vornicus> | Should |
| 03:53 | < celticminstrel> | Or does it just make them show the "oops, this tab crashed" page? |
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| 09:32 | <@AnnoDomini> | Yay, got useful answers from SO. |
| 09:35 | <@AnnoDomini> | Well, mostly. |
| 09:35 | <@AnnoDomini> | I must now figure out why it doesn't work. |
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| 10:35 | <@AnnoDomini> | Okay, the project is done. Two pages have solutions which are hideous and contrary to the point of using ORM, but they work. |
| 10:35 | <@AnnoDomini> | If I manage to figure out how to use HQL for them, I'll change that, but it's somewhat unlikely. |
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| 14:12 | <@jerith> | Quick poll: Should bitflags be defined as (0x0040) or (1 << 6)? |
| 14:15 | < gnolam> | I have no real preference in that (I've used both). |
| 14:15 | < gnolam> | Does it really matter, though? As far as the end programmer is concerned, they're Magic Values That Shouldn't Be Touched anyway. |
| 14:16 | <@jerith> | I prefer the latter, because it makes a "0x0060" bug less likely. |
| 14:16 | <@jerith> | gnolam: I'm defining constants in C/C++. |
| 14:16 | < gnolam> | In which case the naming of the enums/defines/plain old constants is what matters. |
| 14:17 | <@jerith> | Correct. |
| 14:17 | < gnolam> | But yes. The latter is a bit more readable. |
| 14:17 | < gnolam> | The former is a bit more convenient when you want to make compound flags though. |
| 14:18 | <@jerith> | Perhaps, but it's far less obvious that they're compound. |
| 14:24 | <@jerith> | I've seen them defined in decimal, which is just plain *wr0ng*. |
| 14:24 | <@jerith> | *wrong |
| 14:26 | < gnolam> | ... yes. |
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| 14:31 | < gnolam> | What kind of sick mind would even come up with the idea? |
| 14:31 | < gnolam> | The whole point of hex is that you can easily convert to and from binary in your head! |
| 14:33 | < celticminstrel> | What are you talking about? |
| 14:34 | <@jerith> | 15:12 <@jerith> Quick poll: Should bitflags be defined as (0x0040) or (1 << 6)? |
| 14:38 | < celticminstrel> | I personally would prefer the latter, because it's clear at a glance which bit is set. |
| 14:39 | <@jerith> | I've also seen people use just the bit number, and then get/set it with a macro that does the shift. |
| 14:39 | <@jerith> | Only in the embedded world, though. |
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| 14:40 | < celticminstrel> | Using the 0b... extension would work too, if GCC supported it. |
| 14:41 | < celticminstrel> | At least, if it does, I've no idea how to enable it. |
| 14:41 | <@jerith> | That's too verbose, I think. |
| 14:41 | < celticminstrel> | But the bit-shift is probably a little clearer. |
| 14:41 | < celticminstrel> | Yeah. |
| 14:42 | <@jerith> | The binary's useful for multibit values, but hex is probably still better. |
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| 15:26 | | * gnolam fixes his precaching. |
| 15:26 | < gnolam> | Much better. |
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| 18:36 | < celticminstrel> | dAlek! |
| 18:45 | | * gnolam WTHs. |
| 18:50 | < gnolam> | Argh. |
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| 18:51 | < gnolam> | I had accidentally switched gl_FrontColor = gl_Color for gl_Color = gl_FrontColor. |
| 18:51 | < gnolam> | Strangely, the shader compiler did not complain. |
| 19:02 | < gnolam> | (This is one of the downsides to the otherwise quite enjoyable art of shader programming - there's little hand-holding from the compilers) |
| 19:03 | < gnolam> | (The other big downside is that graphics drivers tend to be awfully buggy, so you can never be sure if you've made an error or if you're encountering a driver bug) |
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