| --- Log opened Mon Feb 08 00:00:12 2010 |
| 00:35 | < celticminstrel> | ...it's not detecting my enter key. |
| 00:42 | | * celticminstrel curses curses. |
| 00:42 | < celticminstrel> | Its keys don't make any sense! |
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| 05:16 | < Tarinaky> | Does anyone know about using wide characters in ncurses? There's a vague mentioning of ncursesw.h but I can't then find it anywhere on my system or in my distro's repo. |
| 05:29 | < Tarinaky> | This is annoying. :/ |
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| 06:10 | <@McMartin> | Man, he left |
| 06:11 | <@McMartin> | I have bad news for him |
| 06:11 | <@McMartin> | ncurses only *pretends* to handle wide characters |
| 06:11 | <@Derakon> | Does "wide" mean UTF-16 or "twice the horizontal pixels"? |
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| 06:11 | <@McMartin> | "anything outside of Unicode 0-127" |
| 06:11 | | * Bobsentme whimpers |
| 06:11 | <@Derakon> | Ahh. |
| 06:11 | <@McMartin> | You can fake it, a little, with locales. That's what nfrotz does |
| 06:12 | <@McMartin> | It's extremely fragile. |
| 06:12 | <@Derakon> | I can imagine. |
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| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | Tarinaky: |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | <McMartin> Man, he left |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | <McMartin> I have bad news for him |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | <McMartin> ncurses only *pretends* to handle wide characters |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Derakon> Does "wide" mean UTF-16 or "twice the horizontal pixels"? |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | <McMartin> "anything outside of Unicode 0-127" |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | * Bobsentme whimpers |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | <Derakon> Ahh. |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | <McMartin> You can fake it, a little, with locales. That's what nfrotz does |
| 06:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | <McMartin> It's extremely fragile. |
| 06:31 | < Tarinaky> | Damn >.< |
| 06:31 | < Tarinaky> | The library says it can do it >.< |
| 06:31 | < Tarinaky> | Why does it lie q.q |
| 06:32 | < Bobsentme> | Same reason we do: Because we can! |
| 06:34 | < Tarinaky> | This is a complete pain in the arse. |
| 06:34 | < Tarinaky> | So what -can- I do? |
| 06:41 | < Tarinaky> | I really have my heart set on getting Unicode to work :/ |
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| 10:28 | < Tarinaky_> | I'm trying to work out how, in VC++ I can create a region from a panel. |
| 10:28 | < Tarinaky_> | Or, indeed, any other object. |
| 10:36 | < Tarinaky_> | Okay. Nm. Think I've worked out what I want to do. Need to figure out how to get it to do scroll-bars for me though :/ |
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| 11:37 | < thalass> | Another stupid noob question. To "./configure" a program that was downloaded as a .tar.gz, does it have to be unpacked, or is that what ./configure does? |
| 11:42 | < thalass> | nevermind :P |
| 11:43 | < Serah> | IIRC. it has to be unballed. |
| 11:45 | < thalass> | Yeah it didn't work otherwise |
| 11:45 | < thalass> | I'm learnding! |
| 11:45 | < thalass> | ./ralf |
| 11:45 | < thalass> | also /ralph |
| 11:53 | < thalass> | godsdamnit. kismet's ./configure complains that I don't have libcurses and libncurses, where synaptic says i have the latter, and I used synaptic to install the former. Because apt-get doesn't recognise either of them. |
| 11:53 | < thalass> | still no joy |
| 12:05 | <@TheWatcher> | thalass: you need to have the development packages installed, too |
| 12:06 | <@TheWatcher> | so look for libncurses-devel or something |
| 12:06 | < thalass> | ah ok |
| 12:06 | < thalass> | thanks |
| 12:06 | <@TheWatcher> | (when compiling something, it's not sufficient to just have the normal end-user runtime installation, you need to have the developer package that includes things like headers and link libraries) |
| 12:08 | < thalass> | Ah. Makes sense. I was wondering what the dev versions were for. :P |
| 13:19 | < thalass> | thanks for the help. It seems to have installed zomfg |
| 13:19 | | * thalass gains linux exp |
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| 13:22 | < Tarinaky> | Shame I didn't get here 2 min earlier. |
| 13:22 | < Tarinaky> | I would have used Level drain on him. |
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| 13:26 | < thalass> | arg. How do I add my user (thalass) to the group 'kismet'? |
| 13:27 | < Tarinaky> | thalass: gpasswd as root. |
| 13:28 | < Tarinaky> | Then newgrp as your user. |
| 13:29 | <@TheWatcher> | or, as root, just do `usermod -a -G kismet thalass` |
| 13:29 | < Tarinaky> | TheWatcher: Doesn't the user still need to relog/newgrp? |
| 13:31 | < thalass> | the group kismet already exists, so newgrp isn't necessary? |
| 13:32 | <@TheWatcher> | thal: newgrp updates your current user |
| 13:32 | < thalass> | ah |
| 13:32 | < Tarinaky> | newgrp 'logs in' to a group. |
| 13:33 | <@TheWatcher> | Tarinaky: can't remember, honestly. Probably does. |
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| 13:34 | < thalass> | heyo it worked |
| 13:34 | < Tarinaky> | I'm going for a nap. Later. |
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| 13:36 | < thalass> | I tried usermod on the advise of a random google-found website, but it didn't seem to work. However it didn't say to newgrp after, so perhaps it did. But gpasswd + newgrp worked! |
| 13:37 | | * Reiver stares at thalass and his crazy moon language |
| 13:37 | | * thalass goes to play with what appears to be a kismet that works |
| 13:37 | < thalass> | see you in ten minutes when I have another screwup |
| 13:38 | < thalass> | Reiv: Kismet is like a linux version of netstumbler, apparently. But it requires linux-fu beyond my level to easily install |
| 13:38 | < thalass> | -ed |
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| 14:00 | < thalass> | It appears to work! I suppose. The UI is in the shell, dos+mouse style, which is off-putting. |
| 14:01 | < thalass> | I suppose it works better than netstumbler, but the interface on NS is better - iirc you can connect to networks via the program, too. Which would be great because the ubuntu network-manager program is annoyingly over-automated |
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| 15:39 | | * TheWatcher blarghs at this prebuild version of gtk+ for windows |
| 15:41 | <@TheWatcher> | old versions of libjpeg, libtiff, libpng, and libz. Wonderful. |
| 16:05 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[afk] |
| 17:00 | < gnolam> | ... it's GTK+. |
| 17:01 | < gnolam> | The Fail Toolkit. |
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| 17:49 | | * Alek pokes |
| 17:50 | < Alek> | how does the following read? |
| 17:50 | < Alek> | Interests I am interested in computer hardware engineering; mechanical engineering; computer software engineering and programming; OS, game, and web design; and web and network administration. |
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| 20:02 | <@TheWatcher[afk]> | gnolam: I'm more suspecting it's the guy who does the official precompiled binaries. |
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| 20:32 | | * TheWatcher bleghs, guesses he'll just have to sort out recompiling gtk from scratch |
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