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| 00:18 | | * gnolam wrangles OpenOffice's reference system into submission. |
| 00:20 | | Vornicus is now known as Phas |
| 00:34 | < gnolam> | (Now I just have to remember which paper contains what. Which is harder than it should be.) |
| 00:36 | < McMartin> | Sadly, that part is hard to automate. |
| 00:41 | <@simon`> | I thought OOo had BiBTeX support |
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| 00:41 | < ToxicFrog> | gnolam: for all the trouble you have with OO, I'm surprised you aren't using LaTeX. |
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| 00:46 | < McMartin> | BiBTeX is likewise made of spiders. |
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| 01:34 | | * simon` thinks OOo behaves too much like MS Word |
| 01:35 | <@simon`> | its typesetting is unbearable once you're used to the real thing. |
| 01:38 | <@Phas> | Unfortunately I can't get the real thing to do what I want yet. |
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| 04:19 | < McMartin> | OK, if I am even remotely on the right track, Euler #137 is amazing. |
| 04:24 | <@Phas> | ...holy shit, that's awesome. |
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| 04:24 | <@Phas> | I have no idea how I'd do it though! |
| 04:25 | | * Derakon eyes. |
| 04:25 | < Derakon> | That is indeed quite awesome. And very WTF. |
| 04:27 | <@Phas> | It is, if I'm measuring right, O(n!) or so... |
| 04:27 | <@Phas> | (the function that is) |
| 04:35 | < ToxicFrog> | ...I don't even know how I would start solving that. |
| 04:45 | < celticminstrel> | ARGH! |
| 04:50 | <@Phas> | oh, other way around, it's worse than O(n!) |
| 04:55 | < celticminstrel> | ...wait, O(n!)? Isn't that really bad? |
| 04:57 | <@Phas> | It's worse - it hits infinity at 1. |
| 05:03 | < ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: yes, factorial time is pretty much as bad as it gets, except for really pathological things like 2^(n!) |
| 05:04 | <@Phas> | x^x is worse. |
| 05:04 | <@Phas> | "longest shortest path" is that in a naive implementation. |
| 05:42 | < McMartin> | I just solved it in about 10 seconds. |
| 05:42 | < McMartin> | It is, in fact, amazing. |
| 05:42 | < McMartin> | However, I can't reach the site to check my answers. |
| 05:43 | < McMartin> | Can someone do a DNS lookup on it for me? |
| 05:43 | | * Phas tries to undistract his LaTeX research so he can find the thing he wants. |
| 05:43 | <@Phas> | projecteuler.net has address 95.154.244.24 |
| 05:44 | < McMartin> | ;_; |
| 05:44 | < McMartin> | All I get is a page that says "Apache is functioning normally" |
| 05:44 | <@Phas> | yaaaay vhosts |
| 05:45 | < McMartin> | Also, my system seems to think the site is at 78.110.165.8 |
| 05:46 | < McMartin> | Can someone read off for me the sample value, which was, I think, the 10th in the sequence? |
| 05:46 | | * McMartin can't even check his work here. |
| 05:46 | < Derakon> | 74049690 |
| 05:46 | < McMartin> | :woop: |
| 05:47 | < Derakon> | (Idly, I don't care what some people say, Firefox's awesomebar is awesome) |
| 05:47 | < Derakon> | Who wants to have to remember the beginning of the URL? |
| 05:47 | <@Phas> | I like it. Google's is even /more/ awesome, which is why I just switched from Safari to Chrome on the Mac side. |
| 05:47 | < McMartin> | How do I flush my DNS cache on Linux? |
| 05:48 | | * Derakon googles, finds "restart the nscd daemon" |
| 05:48 | < Derakon> | /etc/init.d/nscd restart |
| 05:49 | < McMartin> | I, uh, don't have one of those. |
| 05:49 | < Derakon> | Dunno, then. |
| 05:54 | < McMartin> | Oh, god *damn* it |
| 05:55 | < McMartin> | I can reach the site by sshing to a different amchine |
| 05:55 | < McMartin> | But, of course, I cannot enter the *confirmation code* there. |
| 05:55 | < McMartin> | Because it is lynx. |
| 05:55 | | * McMartin froths |
| 06:06 | < McMartin> | What the *fuck* |
| 06:06 | < McMartin> | Even when I flush my DNS cache on Windows, it *still* gives the wrong value. |
| 06:06 | < Derakon> | Find a proxy? |
| 06:06 | < McMartin> | Know of any? |
| 06:06 | < Derakon> | No. |
| 06:09 | < McMartin> | Hm, it looks like it's the router doing DNS masquerading. |
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| 06:28 | <@Vornicus> | ...oh really... |
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| 06:31 | <@Vornicus> | Apparently doing it the logarithm way is accurate. I wonder how bad it gets. |
| 06:32 | <@McMartin> | ? |
| 06:35 | <@Vornicus> | str(fibonacci(euler104))[:9] == int(10 ** (fmod(euler104 * ln(phi), 1)) / sqrt(5) * 10**8) |
| 06:36 | <@Vornicus> | er, not ln, log10. But. |
| 06:38 | <@Vornicus> | What this /means/ is - assuming it works for enough values - that I can get the first few digits of any element of the fibonacci sequence without any significant grindery. |
| 06:39 | <@McMartin> | Aha. |
| 06:39 | <@McMartin> | Also, #137 was even more amazing than I had originally thought. |
| 06:39 | <@McMartin> | I suspect I took the scenic route. |
| 06:50 | <@Vornicus> | gnerp. sometimes it only gives me eight digits? |
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| 07:12 | <@Vornicus> | oh, duh. Okay, that's fixed. So far, after hitting 9 digits, it's only missed 14 things below 40k. |
| 07:16 | | * McMartin gets around his issue. |
| 07:16 | <@McMartin> | 137 down. |
| 07:21 | <@Vornicus> | They're all off-by-1s, and they're all high. |
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| --- Log opened Wed Dec 16 21:11:47 2009 |
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| 21:27 | < Derakon[work]> | Today's bit of fun: figuring out how to fix a system I haven't worked with extensively before and that nobody else really knows how it works. |
| 21:28 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | I thought that's what you've been doing your whole job. |
| 21:28 | <@TheWatcher> | True, that ¬¬ |
| 21:28 | < Derakon[work]> | No, my job generally, so far, has been "figure out how to improve a system that nobody knows why it works." |
| 21:29 | < Derakon[work]> | Apparently, also, I've been mislead as to my general job description; the PI told me yesterday that he didn't want me to spend all my time on this one system; it's just fixing that crashing issue that's the current top priority. |
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| 21:55 | | * Kazriko grumbles about development systems still running on Fedora Core 4... |
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| 22:01 | <@Kazriko> | had to install fedora core 4 in a VM so I could develop for this arm5 Xscale board... |
| 22:01 | <@TheWatcher> | Derakon[work]: PI? |
| 22:02 | <@McMartin> | o_O |
| 22:02 | <@McMartin> | FC4? |
| 22:02 | <@McMartin> | I actually found FC3 to be better than FC4 back in the day, but seriously, wtc |
| 22:03 | <@Kazriko> | they haven't updated their development environment since 2004. |
| 22:04 | <@McMartin> | Impressive |
| 22:05 | <@McMartin> | What hypervisor are you using? |
| 22:05 | <@Kazriko> | but.. it's the only -40 to 85c dual-ethernet linux board I could find. |
| 22:05 | | * McMartin nods |
| 22:05 | <@Kazriko> | KVM |
| 22:07 | <@Kazriko> | Wonder how much it would be to build our own xscale board with dual ethernet ports. probably less than the $495 they sell these for. |
| 22:09 | < Derakon[work]> | TW: Principle Investigator, i.e. boss. |
| 22:10 | <@Vornicus> | think that'll be al, not le |
| 22:11 | <@McMartin> | Yes. |
| 22:11 | < Finale> | he investigates principles? >_> |
| 22:12 | <@TheWatcher> | Dera: ah, okay |
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| 22:26 | < Derakon[work]> | Er, right. Principal. |
| 23:06 | | * Derakon[work] helps one of the biologists figure out that the reason KEdit is running slowly is because she's doing a remote connection from her laptop through Boston and back to the desktop sitting next to her. |
| 23:06 | < Derakon[work]> | Mind, she did have a good reason for this; she wanted to make certain that, when she goes back to Boston tonight, she'll still be able to get work done. |
| 23:07 | < Derakon[work]> | She just didn't realize how much extra latency that would entail. |
| 23:08 | < Finale> | ahaha |
| 23:08 | < Finale> | I mean, nothing. |
| 23:09 | <@TheWatcher> | Dera: using nx? |
| 23:12 | <@TheWatcher> | (if not, I vastly recommend it - I've used X applications from the opposite side of the world and found it completely usable through nx) |
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| 23:26 | < Derakon[work]> | TW: I have no idea what she was using and what the server she was connecting to is set up to use. |
| 23:27 | | * Derakon[work] snerks at WYSAFWWYWYG |
| 23:28 | < Derakon[work]> | A.k.a. "What You Saw At First Was What You Wish You'd Gotten" |
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