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| 02:03 | | * ToxicFrog gnaws on vstruct |
| 02:11 | < gnolam> | http://www.skytopia.com/project/fractal/mandelbulb.html |
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| 02:54 | <@Vornicus> | agh dumbassery is approaching |
| 02:54 | | * Vornicus feels like a dumbass. |
| 02:54 | <@Vornicus> | Okay. Got a calculation to do. Lots of state getting thrown around. |
| 02:58 | <@Vornicus> | Need to throw this state through several functions. |
| 02:59 | <@Vornicus> | ...need a context object. Damn. This isn't gonna come easy tonight. |
| 03:06 | <@ToxicFrog> | Naming question. |
| 03:06 | <@ToxicFrog> | For each AST node, I have a field, "width", which records the size of this node on disk in bytes. |
| 03:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | I now find that I also need to know the size of the node in items (which is not the same as the number of children it has!) |
| 03:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | What should I call this? |
| 03:07 | <@Vornicus> | item_size |
| 03:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | That sounds like the size of an individual item. |
| 03:08 | <@Vornicus> | weight |
| 03:08 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...maybe weight should be bytesize and width should be itemcount. |
| 03:08 | | * ToxicFrog commonly uses "weight" as the dimension for bytesize when discussing files |
| 03:08 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'm also tempted to use "cardinality" |
| 03:12 | <@Vornicus> | Sounds right |
| 03:12 | <@Vornicus> | The first suggestion that is |
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| 03:16 | <@McMartin> | For multibyte strings, I think of "len" as the number of characters and "size" as the number of bytes |
| 03:16 | <@McMartin> | Does Not Play Well with C, ofc |
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| 04:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | "len" has it; renaming width to weight is a pain. |
| 04:37 | <@Derakon> | Hm. Anyone understand what this issue is for? http://code.google.com/p/jetblade/issues/detail?id=7 |
| 04:37 | <@Derakon> | "Import by filename"? |
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| 05:13 | <@Derakon> | Ahh, found it. http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.6.html |
| 05:14 | <@Derakon> | "Due to an implementation accident, if you passed a file path to the built-in __import__() function, it would actually import the specified file. This was never intended to work, however, and the implementation now explicitly checks for this case and raises an ImportError." |
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| 14:50 | < gnolam> | ... have I mentioned how much I love modern GPUs? |
| 14:50 | < gnolam> | I'm using dynamic environment mapping. |
| 14:51 | < gnolam> | Just for shits and giggles and I upped the cubemap resolution to 2048x2048. And whaddayaknow - still 50 FPS. :) |
| 14:54 | < gnolam> | -and |
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| 15:22 | < gnolam> | I wish GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map |
| 15:22 | < gnolam> | *would have come earlier though. :( |
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| 16:48 | | * MyCatVerbs hands gnolam a glass of sloe gin and pours another for himself. |
| 16:49 | <@MyCatVerbs> | To ATI, Intel and nVidia. Cheers! *clink* |
| 16:49 | <@MyCatVerbs> | I feel like we should go pour out a forty on the ground for the memory of SGI corp though. |
| 16:49 | | * gnolam slaps the glass out of MyCatVerbs's hand. |
| 16:50 | < gnolam> | Do not toast Intel. >:E |
| 16:50 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Meh, I have a fast enough lerping chip to enable Compiz on this laptop. |
| 16:50 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Plays Quake2 real good too. |
| 16:53 | < gnolam> | Their hardware is usually crap, their drivers are buggy as ass, and they refuse to support all sorts of things their chips /should/ be capable of. |
| 16:53 | < gnolam> | *cough*FBOs*cough* |
| 16:54 | <@MyCatVerbs> | What? They really don't support render-to-texture? |
| 16:54 | < gnolam> | At least they're not /faking/ support for it, like they do with a whole lot of other things. |
| 16:54 | < gnolam> | Their latest chips might. |
| 16:54 | < gnolam> | But not their popular ones. |
| 16:56 | < gnolam> | But even in the simplest of apps, you will sooner or later run into Intel's goddamned bugs. |
| 16:57 | < gnolam> | It's to the point where I know of projects that refuse to even investigate crashes or corrupted graphics on GMA chipsets. :P |
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| 17:16 | | * MyCatVerbs ponders this. |
| 17:16 | <@MyCatVerbs> | S'pose it explains why things like wz2100 don't work on Intel chipsets. |
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| 17:55 | < Derakon[work]> | Design question: I'm working on the input validation for the new Experiment class. The old codebase checks for if we're trying to save to an already-extant file and pops up a dialog box to confirm. This is a good idea. Question is, should Experiment code be talking to wx directly (for the dialog box) or should it subcontract out to GUI code? |
| 17:56 | < SmithKurosaki> | What are you writing in? python right? |
| 17:56 | < Derakon[work]> | The GUI code would probably just be a "popupDialogBox" function that just wraps around wx.MessageDialog() with some preset options. |
| 17:56 | < Derakon[work]> | Yes, I'm working in Python. |
| 17:57 | < SmithKurosaki> | hrm |
| 17:57 | < Derakon[work]> | Language should be irrelevant for this question. |
| 17:57 | < SmithKurosaki> | Yea, just curious |
| 17:57 | < Derakon[work]> | It's more a matter of how different modules should interact and if I should be trying to split out the wx code from the rest of the codebase (answer: probably) |
| 17:58 | < SmithKurosaki> | Like if you have another use for the gui code, I would have that, but if that's the only thing that would use it, I tend to lean to direct interfacing |
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| 18:31 | < Derakon[work]> | Blergh. 2035 lines of Python code that I need to refactor here. This is...a bigger task than I'd initially anticipated. |
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| 19:06 | < Derakon[work]> | Goddamn, this code is so incestuous. |
| 19:06 | < Derakon[work]> | A function that sets up a configuration "profile" accepts no arguments (instead working with the global variables that hold all experiment state)...and, in addition to creating the profile, also mucks with those variables. |
| 19:06 | < Derakon[work]> | Thanks a lot, Sebastian. |
| 19:06 | < Derakon[work]> | You're a menace. |
| 19:25 | < Derakon[work]> | On the plus side, isn't "perSliceTime = self.exposureTime + self.timeBetweenExposures" much clearer than "expRepTime = X.runParms.betweenSleep + X.runParms.exptime"? |
| 19:35 | <@McMartin> | The module is named X? Isn't that a violation of his naming convention? |
| 19:36 | < Derakon[work]> | No, no. |
| 19:36 | < Derakon[work]> | The module is named seb. |
| 19:36 | < Derakon[work]> | It is always imported as "X", though. |
| 19:42 | <@TheWatcher> | ... y'know, I'm beginning to get the impression that, for the sake of the human race, henceforth Sebastian needs to be kept well away from anything remotely resembling a compiler or interpreter |
| 19:50 | <@AnnoDomini> | EXPLAIN. |
| 19:50 | <@McMartin> | Wait, wait. |
| 19:51 | <@McMartin> | Is this sebX.py being imported as "X", sebDIAF being imported as "DIAF", etc., or is every module ever imported as "X"? |
| 19:52 | < Derakon[work]> | This is "seb.py" being imported as "X". |
| 19:52 | < Derakon[work]> | Typically, modules get imported as their single-letter suffixes, e.g. sebD.py gets imported as D, sebC gets imported as C, and so on. |
| 19:53 | <@McMartin> | Yeah, I'd figured the experiment module was named sebX. |
| 19:53 | < Derakon[work]> | The exceptions I've seen to this are sebGui getting imported as GGG, and Priithon.usefulX getting imported as Y, since X was already taken when he decided to make Priithon (which is some other monstrosity mostly used for postprocessing...I'm not touching that yet). |
| 19:53 | < Derakon[work]> | No, it's sebEx. |
| 19:53 | <@McMartin> | Praython? |
| 19:53 | < Derakon[work]> | Heh. |
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| 22:13 | <@Derakon> | I was just tempted to write a comment in the sourcecode that only I would really understand. |
| 22:13 | <@Derakon> | Since I doubt that anyone else who ever looks at this code will have much experience with the way Blender handles keyframes in animation. |
| 22:14 | <@Derakon> | On the plus side: I may be able to implement a feature the biologists wanted that I initially thought was infeasible. |
| 22:14 | <@Derakon> | Yay getting more details on how experiments work under the covers. |
| 22:15 | <@McMartin> | ... under the hood, surely? |
| 22:15 | <@McMartin> | Or are bio experiments friskier than that? |
| 22:16 | <@Derakon> | Well, a lot of the biologists are investigating chromosomal movements during mitosis... |
| 22:16 | <@Derakon> | (Yes, under the hood) |
| 22:17 | <@Derakon> | The specific requirement was to be able to have certain lasers trigger not on every image, but every image mod n, to avoid bleaching the dyes that are sensitive to those lasers. |
| 22:18 | <@Derakon> | ...oh, wait, no, this may not be possible after all. At least, not in the way wanted. |
| 22:21 | <@Derakon> | I guess I could load the entire damn experiment into a single profile and have the DSP do one "pass" that actually goes through the entire stack multiple times...*mutter mutter mutter* |
| 22:35 | <@Derakon> | A little before-and-after for y'all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/320366/ |
| 22:37 | <@McMartin> | .... "or """ |
| 22:37 | | * McMartin stabs him right in his Perl-twisted soul. |
| 22:37 | <@Derakon> | Yep. |
| 22:37 | <@Derakon> | This is the first time I've seen him use such a construct, mind you. |
| 22:37 | <@Derakon> | He must've seen it and thought "Boy, that's clever." |
| 22:38 | < simon`> | Perl is twisted. Python has twisted. |
| 23:13 | <@TheWatcher> | Perl is not twisted! |
| 23:14 | <@Derakon> | It is easily-kinked, though. |
| 23:14 | <@TheWatcher> | Perl is positively psrained. |
| 23:14 | <@TheWatcher> | ... strained |
| 23:14 | <@TheWatcher> | I can type, really |
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| 23:27 | < gnolam> | Google Wave - theory vs practice: http://i.imgur.com/zVn91.jpg |
| 23:27 | < Namegduf> | Haha. |
| 23:28 | < Namegduf> | Well, see, just "getting an invite" is pointless. |
| 23:28 | < Namegduf> | People were supposed to give invites to people they knew and worked with so they could communicate over it and collaborate or something. |
| 23:28 | < Namegduf> | Getting an invite from someone you're not doing that with is largely useless. |
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| 23:42 | < dmlandrum> | I still have 18 more "nomination" to give out. I managed to get one person I know in, so at least I've been a part of one wave. :-/ |
| 23:42 | < dmlandrum> | +s |
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