| --- Log opened Thu Sep 10 00:00:32 2009 |
| 00:29 | <@Derakon> | After asking a coworker about it: the PETE button would be better-named the $USER button, or perhaps the "Change User" button or the "Logout" button, since its use is in fact to let you change which user you are. |
| 00:29 | <@Derakon> | Why it uses your name as a label, I don't know. |
| 00:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: what sort of server? |
| 00:36 | <@AnnoDomini> | Any sort. |
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| 00:37 | <@AnnoDomini> | Someone asked "who uses a laptop for a server anyways" and I answered "lots of people". |
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| 01:21 | <@gnolam> | The answer is "people who want a low-end, quiet one". |
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| 02:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | Gnar. |
| 02:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | I seem to have lost most the original mapper prototype. |
| 02:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | Including the parts that do the actual work. |
| 02:09 | <@ToxicFrog> | Well, time to recreate that design |
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| 02:56 | <@Derakon> | ...oh, okay, no wonder it didn't work. |
| 02:56 | <@Derakon> | Mental note: next time, be certain you're in the main repo, not the temporary test repo you made before pushing your changes. |
| 02:59 | < Vornicus> | Heh |
| 03:00 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Derakon: :%s/\<f\>/frame/cg. You can also replace the % with firstline,lastline |
| 03:01 | <@Derakon> | Rhamph: I'm familiar with limiting the lines on searches. |
| 03:01 | <@Derakon> | Not too familiar with the exact mechanics of < and > though. |
| 03:01 | < Rhamphoryncus> | c flag lets you confirm each line |
| 03:02 | < Rhamphoryncus> | (unfortunately, with little context. Can't scroll down while it's waiting) |
| 03:02 | <@Derakon> | Yeah... |
| 03:03 | <@ToxicFrog> | Data: list of mapbooks. Mapbook: name + list of maps. Map: name + set of walls + set of markers. Wall: two integer endpoints. Marker: real coordinates + icon + text. |
| 03:03 | <@ToxicFrog> | I also want inter-map links, but I'm not sure if those should be a type of marker or a distinct thing. |
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| 03:04 | <@Derakon> | Wouldn't walls need two vector endpoints? |
| 03:05 | <@ToxicFrog> | I spoke unclearly. |
| 03:05 | <@ToxicFrog> | The endpoints of a wall are 2d vectors of integers. |
| 03:05 | <@ToxicFrog> | The location of a marker is a 2d vector of reals. |
| 03:05 | <@ToxicFrog> | (that is to say: walls snap to grid. Markers don't.) |
| 03:05 | | * Derakon nods. |
| 03:05 | <@Derakon> | Your grid size is 1, then? |
| 03:06 | <@ToxicFrog> | Internally, yes. |
| 03:06 | <@ToxicFrog> | You can adjust it in the UI if you want a coarser grid. |
| 03:06 | <@Derakon> | Righto. |
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| 13:11 | | * TheWatcher eyes this code, ....s |
| 13:12 | <@TheWatcher> | How is this code actually working |
| 13:12 | <@TheWatcher> | It should not work! |
| 13:12 | <@TheWatcher> | WTeverlivingF?! |
| 13:12 | <@AnnoDomini> | Roll for sanity loss. |
| 13:12 | <@TheWatcher> | note: this is in perl |
| 13:12 | <@AnnoDomini> | Roll twice. |
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| 16:28 | | * gnolam laughs. |
| 16:32 | | * TheWatcher eyes this |
| 16:32 | <@TheWatcher> | I really need to spend some time to rework all this code to use my new template, configuration, and support code |
| 16:32 | <@TheWatcher> | First, I think I need to get that time machine working... |
| 16:37 | < Derakon[work]> | ...why is there a speech recognition module here? |
| 16:37 | < Derakon[work]> | It's a bloody microscope! |
| 16:38 | < Derakon[work]> | (Fortunately, the module doesn't appear to be used...) |
| 16:41 | < Namegduf> | Haha. |
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| 16:42 | <@TheWatcher> | For when someone yells "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TURN IT OFF NOW!!" |
| 16:50 | <@TheWatcher> | (or, y'know, you could make it recoginise "SCIENCE!" to make it run any stored programs or something...) |
| 16:52 | < Vornicus-Latens> | So you can say "For god's sake, microbe-gordon! Get out of the beam!" |
| 16:52 | < Vornicus-Latens> | sorry, get away from the beam. |
| 16:52 | | Irssi: #code: Total of 23 nicks [11 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] |
| 16:53 | | * Derakon[work] facepalms at the lot of you. |
| 16:53 | <@TheWatcher> | Whaaaat |
| 16:53 | <@TheWatcher> | Sound like perfectly good ideas to me! ¬¬ |
| 17:03 | < Alek> | ¬_¬ |
| 17:04 | < Alek> | but really, why not have it available so you can add on voice-activated programs? |
| 17:04 | < Alek> | like autofocus or whatnot. |
| 17:04 | < Derakon[work]> | Because more features make the program worse. |
| 17:05 | < Alek> | err. |
| 17:05 | | * Alek stays out of that. |
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| 17:05 | < Derakon[work]> | Someone doesn't understand basic UI design. |
| 17:11 | < Vornicus-Latens> | And anyway if you wanted to do voice activation you'd add it on as something that streams commands to your text interface. |
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| 17:29 | < Derakon[work]> | % hg status -m | cut -d' ' -f2|xargs hg diff | wc -l |
| 17:29 | < Derakon[work]> | 6940 |
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| 21:03 | < Derakon[work]> | Style question: is it better to import dependencies at the top of a module, or inside module functions as those dependencies are required? |
| 21:11 | <@TheWatcher> | I'd say put them at the top - that way all the dependencies are explicit and easy to see, you don't have to go hunting for them in functions |
| 21:13 | < jerith> | Derakon[work]: PEP-8 has an opinion on the matter. |
| 21:15 | < Derakon[work]> | Ahh, good call. |
| 21:16 | < Derakon[work]> | "Imports are always put at the top of the file, just after any module comments and docstrings, and before module globals and constants." |
| 21:16 | < Derakon[work]> | That seems pretty conclusive. |
| 21:18 | | * Derakon[work] is now half-done with the code-review part of a really massive merge. |
| 21:18 | < Derakon[work]> | Then I can test it, yay! |
| 21:38 | < Derakon[work]> | Good gravy, this code's adding attributes to the sys module. ;.; |
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| 22:54 | <@McMartin> | =( |
| 22:54 | | * McMartin is being blocked by server errors that mean he can't test his fixes |
| 22:54 | <@TheWatcher> | Aww |
| 22:55 | <@McMartin> | In unrelated news, here I am on the Internet |
| 23:16 | < Tarinaky> | Yay. I got my program to compile under g++ \o/ |
| 23:18 | < Tarinaky> | When I do a git commit and it says "rename math.y => math.yy (84%)" what does the percentage mean? |
| 23:18 | < Tarinaky> | How similar the two files are? |
| 23:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | Tarinaky: no idea, ask #git on freenode? |
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