| --- Log opened Fri Jul 17 00:00:03 2009 |
| 00:05 | <@Derakon> | % hg status | grep M | wc -l |
| 00:05 | <@Derakon> | 35 |
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| 00:10 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 00:26 | <@Derakon> | Man, adding the Vector2D class was so worth it. I can do things like this: "delta = end.sub(start).normalize().multiply(distance/4.0)" |
| 00:46 | <@Derakon> | Augh, the diff for map.py is 1106 lines long. |
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| 01:38 | <@Derakon> | There! Checkin of doom complete! http://code.google.com/p/jetblade/source/detail?r=cee061f08a7bb1d811764d166d0556 4ff1fc9575 |
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| 03:09 | <@McMartin> | ... |
| 03:09 | <@McMartin> | <QA Guy> Man, why are you getting on McM's case. You're going to make him tear all his hair out |
| 03:09 | <@McMartin> | <QA VP> Actually, I'm trying to get him to regrow his moustache, that was awesome |
| 03:09 | <@Derakon> | You had a moustache? |
| 03:09 | <@McMartin> | I did |
| 03:09 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Whaaat? |
| 03:09 | <@Derakon> | Man, I wish I could've seen that. |
| 03:09 | | * SmithKurosaki hugs McM |
| 03:09 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Did you look better with one? |
| 03:09 | <@McMartin> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/m-martin/3703688860/ |
| 03:09 | <@Derakon> | My brother's fiancée wants me to regrow the muttonchops I had briefly in college... |
| 03:09 | <@SmithKurosaki> | ... |
| 03:10 | <@Derakon> | \o/ |
| 03:10 | <@McMartin> | The feedback people gave was positive, but that doesn't mean that everyone else wasn't snickering into their beers |
| 03:10 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Heh |
| 03:10 | <@Derakon> | To be fair, moustaches haven't really been in for a decade or so now. |
| 03:10 | <@Derakon> | Not unless they're part of full beards. |
| 03:10 | <@SmithKurosaki> | You probably look better sans |
| 03:11 | <@McMartin> | It depends on the effect. |
| 03:11 | <@McMartin> | If I decide to be Zorro for Halloween or something, though, it appears I can properly rock that one. |
| 03:11 | <@McMartin> | No handlebars or Hynemans for me though. |
| 03:11 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Hynemans are awesome |
| 03:12 | <@Consul> | I used to have a van Dyke that I think looked decent on me. But not having a beard makes me look ten years younger than I am, so... |
| 03:12 | <@McMartin> | Sans: http://www.flickr.com/photos/m-martin/2575763247/ |
| 03:12 | <@McMartin> | I don't have many pictures of me. -_- |
| 03:13 | <@SmithKurosaki> | I like the no mustache better :) |
| 03:13 | <@Derakon> | While we're posting pictures, here's me: http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp/derakon.jpg |
| 03:13 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Lol |
| 03:14 | <@McMartin> | Of course, I'm also three years younger in the second pic~ |
| 03:14 | <@SmithKurosaki> | I still like the no mustache better. Derakon is pretty cool too |
| 03:15 | <@McMartin> | I swear, Derakon, you have more variation in hair length than anyone I know |
| 03:15 | <@McMartin> | (The first time I met him in person he had a buzz cut, IIRC.) |
| 03:15 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Wow |
| 03:15 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 03:15 | <@SmithKurosaki> | (Working on finding a pic of me |
| 03:15 | <@Derakon> | That was about four years ago. |
| 03:15 | <@McMartin> | Almost exactly, actually. |
| 03:16 | <@McMartin> | July 4th weekend of '05 was the Trip North. |
| 03:16 | <@Derakon> | I kept the short hair for about a year and a half, I think, before I started growing it long again. |
| 03:18 | <@SmithKurosaki> | http://tinypic.com/r/2aaiyqo/3 This is me about a year ago. Haven' |
| 03:18 | <@SmithKurosaki> | t changed much |
| 03:19 | <@McMartin> | That looks like a pretty... hm... |
| 03:19 | <@McMartin> | canonical picture |
| 03:19 | <@McMartin> | I approve entirely |
| 03:19 | <@McMartin> | I also like the hat =) |
| 03:19 | <@SmithKurosaki> | :p |
| 03:19 | <@SmithKurosaki> | I love that hat as well as my black one |
| 03:20 | | * Consul gives McMartin a noogie for stealing the pun he was about to make. |
| 03:20 | <@SmithKurosaki> | (Not same design but still awesome) |
| 03:20 | <@McMartin> | I need more hats |
| 03:20 | <@Derakon> | Nice shot, SK. :) |
| 03:20 | <@SmithKurosaki> | I ahve 3 |
| 03:20 | <@SmithKurosaki> | My friend took that for me |
| 03:20 | <@McMartin> | The only one I have is this beige felt half-fedora that is in fact awesome but which is also somewhat anachronistic |
| 03:20 | <@SmithKurosaki> | He was doing handstands off the end of the cannon |
| 03:20 | <@SmithKurosaki> | :( |
| 03:20 | <@Consul> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/dmlandrum/3308208782/ <-- this is me, as of not long ago. The smirk is not normal. |
| 03:20 | <@Derakon> | My only hat is a black fedora. |
| 03:21 | <@SmithKurosaki> | I have a fedora, a black fashionable baseball style cap and the bucjet hat in the pix |
| 03:21 | | * McMartin laughs at http://www.flickr.com/photos/auddess/3405690601/ |
| 03:21 | <@McMartin> | I should probably look at my contact lists more often. |
| 03:22 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Haha |
| 03:22 | <@Derakon> | Demonic squirrels attack! |
| 03:22 | <@McMartin> | Anyway, it is long past dinnertime |
| 03:22 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Enjoy |
| 03:22 | <@McMartin> | And now you are all no longer merely Disembodied Balls Of Intellect like normal Internet People |
| 03:23 | <@SmithKurosaki> | :p |
| 03:23 | <@Consul> | And that is my real hair. :-P |
| 03:23 | <@Consul> | Have a good one, McMartin |
| 03:23 | <@McMartin> | I think Der and TF are the only people here I've met personally. |
| 03:23 | <@SmithKurosaki> | (TF is pretty awesome) |
| 03:24 | <@SmithKurosaki> | He's the only one in here I know irl |
| 03:24 | <@McMartin> | (We've collaborated before) |
| 03:24 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Cool |
| 03:25 | <@Consul> | We should have a Nightstar #code Con sometime. :-P |
| 03:25 | <@SmithKurosaki> | That would be cool |
| 03:25 | <@SmithKurosaki> | a) where b) who can pay for my plane ticket? |
| 03:26 | <@Consul> | Well, if a) is "somewhere around Toronto", b) kinda takes care of itself. :-P |
| 03:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh, you're a Torontonian? |
| 03:26 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Yea consul |
| 03:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | <-- Guelph |
| 03:26 | <@Consul> | Well, I'm Port Huron-ian, which is close enough. |
| 03:26 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Right, you an MI boy |
| 03:26 | <@SmithKurosaki> | (Party in Guelph!) |
| 03:26 | <@Consul> | I've been to Toronto, to see Dave Gorman. |
| 03:27 | <@SmithKurosaki> | ? |
| 03:27 | <@SmithKurosaki> | TF: I have him on my FB) |
| 03:27 | <@Consul> | He does comedy shows cenetered around Powerpoint, like he's giving a speech. |
| 03:27 | <@SmithKurosaki> | niice |
| 03:27 | <@Consul> | He's from England. |
| 03:28 | <@Consul> | ToxicFrog: Are you on FB? |
| 03:28 | <@Consul> | So you too can be subjected to my calculus jokes? |
| 03:28 | <@SmithKurosaki> | (They're horrible) |
| 03:29 | <@Consul> | Naw, they're just not properly integrated. |
| 03:29 | <@SmithKurosaki> | He will rarely see your status though |
| 03:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yeah, I check FB every 3-4 months |
| 03:29 | <@Consul> | Heh |
| 03:29 | <@Consul> | I post something at about the same frequency, it seems/. |
| 03:33 | <@Consul> | Well, interestingly enough, searching for Toxicfrog yields two other users, one in Las Vegas, the other in the United Arab Emirates. I'll assume neither is you. |
| 03:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...yeah, no. |
| 03:34 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Consul, search my contacts for a long hair |
| 03:34 | <@SmithKurosaki> | :p |
| 03:36 | <@Consul> | Well, I found one, but I don't want to say the name here, just in case. |
| 03:36 | <@SmithKurosaki> | It's probably him |
| 03:36 | <@SmithKurosaki> | What you think of the pic? |
| 03:38 | <@Consul> | It's not really that important. I'm very slow to get into Facebook. I have all of 20 contacts, most of whom I knew for a long time. |
| 03:38 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Ahh |
| 04:03 | <@Derakon> | Hey, Rhamphoryncus: I got around to trying to subclass tuple, and I'm getting an error from Python. |
| 04:04 | <@Derakon> | Here's my code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220217/ |
| 04:04 | <@Derakon> | And the error is "TypeError: tuple() takes at most 1 argument (2 given)" |
| 04:04 | <@Derakon> | Referring to line 5 there. |
| 04:04 | < Rhamphoryncus> | doh, my fault. Pass them in as a tuple rather than multiple arguments |
| 04:05 | < Rhamphoryncus> | However, you also need to use __new__ instead, as in my example |
| 04:05 | < Rhamphoryncus> | tuples are immutable. __init__ is too late and does nothing |
| 04:05 | <@Derakon> | Ah. |
| 04:05 | <@Derakon> | I wasn't familiar with __new__. |
| 04:05 | <@Phas> | __new__ is scary and generally you shouldn't use it. |
| 04:06 | < Rhamphoryncus> | how about metaclasses? Wanna hear about metaclasses? :) |
| 04:06 | <@Derakon> | Er... |
| 04:06 | <@Derakon> | I'd settle for documentation on __new__. ¬.¬ |
| 04:07 | <@Phas> | http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html#special-method-names <--- it's the first method mentioned. |
| 04:07 | <@Derakon> | Bitte. |
| 04:07 | < Rhamphoryncus> | What literally happens is x = Foo(a, b) calls type.__call__(a, b). This calls your subtype's __new__, which returns the instance. Then it calls the __init__ method on that instance |
| 04:08 | <@Derakon> | class Foo(tuple): |
| 04:08 | <@Derakon> | def __new__(self, x, y): |
| 04:08 | <@Derakon> | self = tuple.__new__(self, (x, y)) |
| 04:08 | <@Derakon> | return self |
| 04:08 | <@Derakon> | Something like that, then? |
| 04:08 | <@Derakon> | Seems to work, but I'm a bit out of my depth here. |
| 04:09 | < Rhamphoryncus> | replace two of those "self"s with "cls" |
| 04:09 | <@Derakon> | The ones that are arguments to __new__, I assume. |
| 04:10 | < Rhamphoryncus> | yup |
| 04:10 | <@Derakon> | Okay, thanks. |
| 04:10 | <@Derakon> | Time to go track down everywhere I try to mutate immutables~ |
| 04:11 | < Rhamphoryncus> | In this case cls will literally be the Foo object |
| 04:11 | < Rhamphoryncus> | which is an instance of type |
| 04:22 | <@Derakon> | Hrm...ideally I'd like to be able to keep using "vel.x = someNewValue" and have it just replace vel with a new Vector2D instance. Is that doable, though? |
| 04:22 | <@Derakon> | By using a setter on the .x property... |
| 04:23 | <@Phas> | No. |
| 04:24 | <@Derakon> | Because the actual data is immutable, huh? |
| 04:24 | <@Phas> | The lvalue there will now be x, and you don't know where you're coming from to change vel as a whole. |
| 04:24 | <@Derakon> | No, I mean, you can set it up so saying "vel.x = 5" is equivalent to vel.someFunction(5). |
| 04:24 | <@Derakon> | But that doesn't save me from the fact that the tuple that Vector2Ds now descend from is immutable. |
| 04:25 | <@Derakon> | Making someFunction() return a new Vector2D doesn't accomplish anything. |
| 04:28 | <@Phas> | And it still wouldn't be able to see vel anyway |
| 04:29 | <@Phas> | Not in that sense anyway |
| 04:45 | <@Derakon> | ...that's annoying. A comparison of old vs. new reveals that hashing of the new Vector2D instances is much faster, but instantiation and add() are slower. |
| 04:48 | <@Derakon> | Hmm...my .x and .y properties are contributing a nontrivial amount of slowdown. |
| 04:51 | <@Phas> | You may still want to look into numpy. |
| 04:52 | <@Phas> | Which you're going to need if you ever do opengl anyway. |
| 04:52 | <@Derakon> | Most of my slowdown at the moment appears to be in just function stacks, really. |
| 04:53 | <@Derakon> | Replacing every instance of "self.x" with "self[0]" in the Vector2D package (and ditto for self.y) gained me about two seconds compared to using the properties there. |
| 04:53 | <@Derakon> | Which basically means the properties are only good for nice-looking code, and should be avoided if speed is an issue. >.< |
| 04:59 | <@Derakon> | ...argh. I go from 1.846s to .609s by avoiding the use of properties in a function that gets called 466745 times. |
| 04:59 | <@Derakon> | This is turning into a boondoggle. |
| 05:00 | <@Derakon> | In short, I can make the Vector2D class faster, but only by getting rid of the ability to use .x and .y. |
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| 05:51 | <@Derakon> | "/dev/random has all the porn ever. Eventually." |
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| 06:03 | < Namegduf> | Haha. |
| 06:04 | <@Derakon> | I kinda wonder how much time has been wasted by people with a poor understanding of statistics, looking for signal in the noise machine. |
| 06:17 | <@Phas> | A lot of my time has been wasted that way. |
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| 06:55 | <@McMartin> | You're trying to reverse engineer the entropy generator, though, that doesn't count |
| 06:55 | | * SmithKurosaki is confused |
| 06:56 | <@Derakon> | SK: it sounds like Vorn is trying to determine the algorithm used by some program (probably a videogame) that generates random numbers. |
| 06:57 | | * McMartin headdesks. |
| 06:57 | <@Derakon> | Which could be an interpretation of "looking for signal in the noise machine", though it's not what I intended. |
| 06:57 | <@McMartin> | Oh. Right. Realm's Ransom combat. Forgot about that entirely |
| 06:57 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 06:57 | <@Derakon> | Y'know, the King's Bounty thread on TASVideos probably has lots of useful information. |
| 06:58 | <@McMartin> | Unlikely, given what they *did* to that poor game. |
| 06:58 | <@SmithKurosaki> | oh? |
| 06:58 | <@McMartin> | Are you familiar with The King's Bounty's core mechanic? |
| 06:59 | <@Vornicus> | No, no, this was me complaining at Jen and others who thought that Schlock was biased. |
| 06:59 | <@Derakon> | Ahh. |
| 06:59 | <@Derakon> | You ran Schlock against an RNG tester? |
| 06:59 | <@McMartin> | (Anyway, the Tool Assisted Speedrun of The King's Bounty beats the game in under a third of a second.) |
| 07:00 | <@Derakon> | The KB TAS is the only one where the typical "You're watching a TAS, not a recording of real gameplay" says "This was a Tool Assisted Speedrun". |
| 07:00 | <@Vornicus> | Der: no, I didn't, but I knew what RNG was underneath it. |
| 07:01 | <@Vornicus> | specifically the mersenne twister. |
| 07:01 | <@Derakon> | You know it's good with a name like that. |
| 07:02 | <@McMartin> | For the proper King's Bounty experience I really recommend Thuryl's LP of it. |
| 07:02 | <@Vornicus> | It's got a loop time of something like 2**11,000 states, and hits the spectral test at 624 dimensions. |
| 07:02 | <@Vornicus> | It is in short one of the best prngs in the world. |
| 07:05 | <@Derakon> | I'd forgotten how annoying it is to find details of game mechanics in TAS threads. |
| 07:06 | <@McMartin> | Derakon: I think the only mechanic they seriously attacked in KB was Scepter placement. |
| 07:06 | <@Derakon> | But that could well include pseudocode of the RNG. |
| 07:06 | <@McMartin> | That's not the part Vorn was trying to sort out, AIUI. |
| 07:06 | <@Derakon> | That said, I think they brute-forced it since they only needed like 10 frames of gameplay. |
| 07:06 | <@McMartin> | Vorn was trying to find out the modifiers, and specifically what morale meant. |
| 07:07 | <@Derakon> | Ahhh. |
| 07:11 | <@Vornicus> | What Skill Level does, and what Morale does. |
| 07:11 | <@Vornicus> | Also the distribution of non-special treasure. |
| 07:14 | <@Derakon> | Personally I'd be inclined to make something up. >.> |
| 07:14 | <@Vornicus> | Heh. |
| 07:15 | | * Vornicus is too curmudgeonly for that. |
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| 07:17 | <@Derakon[AFK]> | Night, all. |
| 07:18 | <@SmithKurosaki> | night |
| 07:23 | <@jerith> | Morning. |
| 07:23 | <@Vornicus> | nider |
| 07:25 | | * McMartin updates http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/sots/ |
| 07:52 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Night guys |
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| 18:16 | <@Derakon> | Heyo, Rhamphoryncus. |
| 18:16 | < Rhamphoryncus> | heya |
| 18:16 | <@Derakon> | I've discovered that using properties is slow. :\ |
| 18:17 | <@Derakon> | To the tune of about a second's difference over 467k calls to a function that uses the properties four times. |
| 18:18 | <@Derakon> | (So, every time I use the property .x instead of [0], it takes .000000675s more) |
| 18:20 | | * Rhamphoryncus nods |
| 18:21 | < Rhamphoryncus> | that's why I was hoping namedtuple was written in C |
| 18:24 | < Rhamphoryncus> | hrm.. you could move Vector2D into C but that'd only gain so much.. you may be better moving an inner loop or two into C |
| 18:25 | | * Derakon nods. |
| 18:25 | <@Derakon> | At the moment, I suspect I'll settle for "if this function gets called a lot, it should use direct access instead of properties". |
| 18:25 | <@Derakon> | Which makes the code a bit inconsistent, though. :\ |
| 18:27 | | * Rhamphoryncus takes a look at Cython |
| 18:29 | <@Derakon> | Hmm...my top time users now are Map.expandSeeds() (my spacefilling cellular automaton), and then Vector2D.__new__, which gets called some 2228265 times to make this map. |
| 18:31 | < Rhamphoryncus> | what overall percentage? |
| 18:32 | <@Derakon> | Erk...I broke things while trying to simplify Vector2D.__new__. |
| 18:32 | <@Derakon> | File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/copy_reg.py", line 92, in __newobj__ |
| 18:32 | <@Derakon> | return cls.__new__(cls, *args) |
| 18:32 | <@Derakon> | TypeError: __new__() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given) |
| 18:33 | <@Derakon> | Oh, that's what I get for using the copy module. |
| 18:33 | < Rhamphoryncus> | heh |
| 18:35 | <@Derakon> | Right now I'm excising the ability to do Vector2D((x, y)) instead of Vector2D(x, y) |
| 18:36 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Ahh, yeah, that could help a bit |
| 18:36 | <@Derakon> | Hrm. That gained me a whopping .115s over 2228265 calls. |
| 18:36 | < Rhamphoryncus> | heh |
| 18:36 | <@Derakon> | Soooo not worth it. |
| 18:37 | <@Derakon> | Anyway, for a 40.103s map generation run, expandSeeds takes 6.318s and Vector2D.__new__ takes 4.923s (cumulative, both of them). |
| 18:38 | < Rhamphoryncus> | So about a quarter of the time, combined |
| 18:38 | <@Derakon> | Yeah. |
| 18:39 | <@Derakon> | Actual time in those functions as opposed to subsidiaries is 3.249s and 2.732s respectively. |
| 18:39 | < Rhamphoryncus> | not a lot of room for improvement |
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| 18:43 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I would recommend Cython rather than direct C |
| 18:44 | <@ToxicFrog> | Cython? |
| 18:44 | <@Derakon> | About half of Vector2D.__new__ is spent in the Vector2D class (as opposed to the tuple class). |
| 18:44 | <@Derakon> | TF: http://www.cython.org/ |
| 18:46 | | * AnnoDomini can't wait for the new DF. |
| 18:47 | <@jerith> | There's a new DF? |
| 18:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | In the works. |
| 18:47 | <@jerith> | Details? |
| 18:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=30026.0 |
| 18:48 | | * Derakon snerks at http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/imgs/statues.png |
| 18:49 | <@AnnoDomini> | Yes, that was pretty hilarious. |
| 18:50 | <@jerith> | Shiny. |
| 18:53 | <@gnolam> | ? |
| 18:56 | <@AnnoDomini> | ! |
| 18:57 | <@SmithKurosaki> | ~ |
| 18:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | # |
| 19:00 | <@SmithKurosaki> | ## |
| 19:00 | <@AnnoDomini> | ### |
| 19:03 | <@gnolam> | Just wondering what was up with Derakon's image. |
| 19:03 | <@gnolam> | Looked like standard DF fare? |
| 19:04 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Well. look what you started, you should be ashamed |
| 19:04 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: The statue of X is new. |
| 19:07 | <@Derakon> | This is pretty fantastic too: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/spoilers/adventure/adv_start.html |
| 19:10 | <@Derakon> | Annoyingly, it ends with a puzzle that would require 17160 wgets to brute-force. |
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| 19:13 | <@gnolam> | Heh |
| 19:13 | <@gnolam> | Finished it in 2 attempts. :) |
| 19:13 | <@gnolam> | All that adventure that is. Took the puzzle in the first go. |
| 19:13 | <@Derakon> | Well, two of the answers are fairly obvious...had to brute-force the numbering though. |
| 19:14 | <@gnolam> | It was in the first room I entered. :) |
| 19:14 | <@Derakon> | Ahh. |
| 19:15 | <@Derakon> | Oh, right. |
| 19:15 | <@jerith> | I had all the answers by the time I got to the chest, but I died a few times. |
| 19:15 | <@Derakon> | The death messages are often quite amusing, I note. |
| 19:16 | <@jerith> | Indeed. |
| 19:36 | < Alek> | what game? |
| 19:37 | <@Derakon> | It's in the backlog. |
| 19:59 | < Alek> | pffft |
| 20:02 | <@AnnoDomini> | Alek: Are you still playing in Thorn's Quests or shall I move the thread to the Neo-Popedome? |
| 20:07 | < Alek> | yes I am. |
| 20:08 | < Alek> | it's been less than a week since last post. <_< |
| 20:09 | <@AnnoDomini> | And yet Erik is griping about you failing to post. |
| 20:10 | < Alek> | well, he did ask for a megapost. >_> |
| 20:10 | <@AnnoDomini> | Which shouldn't be difficult enough to warrant a whole week. |
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| 20:24 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | does anyone here like Esoteric programming? |
| 20:26 | <@jerith> | I wrote a brainfsck interpreter once. |
| 20:26 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | cool |
| 20:26 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | I do Piet |
| 20:27 | <@jerith> | Is that the 2d pixel-based one? |
| 20:27 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | yes |
| 20:27 | <@jerith> | Shiny! |
| 20:27 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | but on a more standard note: does anyone know of a quick way to make a program which blocks a certain word, and repalces it with shitespace? |
| 20:28 | <@Derakon> | :%s/word/shitespace/g |
| 20:28 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | whitespace8 |
| 20:28 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | what language would that be? |
| 20:28 | <@Derakon> | That would be vim's search&replace. |
| 20:28 | <@jerith> | A regexp should do it. |
| 20:28 | <@Derakon> | More generally, sed should be able to do what you want. |
| 20:29 | <@jerith> | What's the context? |
| 20:29 | < Namegduf> | In order to 'block' something, you'd need to figure out a way to make it intercept whatever input it was to be filtering. |
| 20:29 | <@jerith> | Does it need to be a plugin for something? |
| 20:29 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | I just need soem kind of program |
| 20:29 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | that can run on Windows T_T |
| 20:29 | <@Derakon> | Cygwin will get you sed. |
| 20:30 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | perhaps, yes |
| 20:30 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | and it needs to work on a browser |
| 20:31 | <@Derakon> | Oh, you want browser filtering. |
| 20:31 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | yes |
| 20:31 | <@Derakon> | So you can censor some kind of content, presumably. |
| 20:31 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | sort of |
| 20:31 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | more like to remove the word "lawl" from a hideous member of a forum I go to |
| 20:31 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 20:31 | <@McMartin> | Seamonkey has scripts for that |
| 20:31 | <@gnolam> | Batmanifestdestiny: Greasemonkey script. |
| 20:31 | <@Derakon> | If you use Firefox, a Greasemonkey script should be able to handle that. |
| 20:31 | <@McMartin> | I bet you could modify the Pie Filter to do it. |
| 20:32 | <@McMartin> | Er, yeah. Greasemonkey, not sea. |
| 20:32 | | * Derakon coughs. |
| 20:32 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | how do I get to the console area for firefox? |
| 20:35 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | ah ha, i found a plugin |
| 20:38 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | hm.... |
| 20:38 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | my javascripting fails |
| 20:45 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | do you know what I'm doing wrong? |
| 20:45 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | replace("lawl" " "); |
| 20:45 | <@Derakon> | What string are you calling that on? |
| 20:46 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | never mind, I think I just found soemthing |
| 20:46 | <@Derakon> | http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_replace.asp should help. |
| 20:46 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | I already looked at that |
| 20:46 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | but I just found something |
| 20:55 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | how do I open Greasemonkey? >< |
| 20:57 | < Batmanifestdestiny> | never mind |
| 21:04 | < Alek> | I have a full-time job and a full-time class. |
| 21:04 | < Alek> | I should be able to make a post today or tomorrow. |
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| 23:00 | <@SmithKurosaki> | Damnit |
| 23:23 | | You're now known as TheWatcherT-2] |
| 23:27 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
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