code logs -> 2009 -> Mon, 04 May 2009< code.20090503.log - code.20090505.log >
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<@Vornicus>
Arg. too damn mny things and not enough names.
04:03
<@McMartin>
?
04:03
<@McMartin>
Also, man
04:03
<@McMartin>
I keep not being sure if I'm reading the wrong parts of the Haskell library spec, or if basic operations simply aren't there because all you need are to compose things that are.
04:04
<@McMartin>
But given that fairly non-basic things like takeWhile and dropWhile are there...
04:04
<@Vornicus>
Writing a 4e character sheet miscellaneous crap calculator.
04:04
<@Vornicus>
But there's a lot of miscellaneous crap.
04:04
<@McMartin>
aye
04:08
<@Vornicus>
And so I have things like reading skill training lists in from the character sheet file, and then trying to find all the names I need for the bits I need to calculate.
04:14
<@Vornicus>
data data data data data
04:18
<@McMartin>
Aha, there's what I needed.
04:18
<@Vornicus>
What did you need?
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<@Vornicus>
daaaaaaaata data data data data
04:24 * Derakon drops Brent Stiner on Vorn.
04:24
<@Vornicus>
Spiner.
04:24
<@Derakon>
Oops.
04:25 * Vornicus hunts up his PHP thing that contains feat data.
04:39
<@McMartin>
Vornicus: I needed the !! operator
04:39
<@Derakon>
You mean "cast to boolean"?
04:40
<@McMartin>
No, it's the subscript operator.
04:40
<@McMartin>
x !! i is equivalent to head . drop i x
04:41
<@Derakon>
Okay...now pretend I don't know Haskell. ¬.¬
04:41 * McMartin also runs into a situation where he actually has to declare a function's type, zomg.
04:41
<@McMartin>
It's the subscript operator, like I said originally.
04:42
<@McMartin>
In C++ terms, operator[].
04:42
<@Vornicus>
I think that's x[i]
04:42
<@McMartin>
Yes.
04:42
<@Derakon>
Ohhh.
04:42
<@Derakon>
I think of that as the indexing operator. Even though "subscript" is the proper term.
04:42
<@McMartin>
head is "return first element of list", drop is "return the list that has discarded the first i elements"
04:42
<@McMartin>
and . is function composition.
04:42
<@Derakon>
So head(drop(i, x)).
04:43
<@McMartin>
Quite.
04:43
<@McMartin>
Function composition lets you do ridiculous things.
04:44
<@McMartin>
For example, here I am parsing the data file from #67:
04:44
<@McMartin>
Oh wait, wrong channel, moving for spoilers...
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<@gnolam>
Unfortunately, people keep using it.
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<@AnnoDomini>
I wouldn't go so far as to call them 'people'.
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<@gnolam>
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<@TheWatcher>
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<@gnolam>
KILL
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code logs -> 2009 -> Mon, 04 May 2009< code.20090503.log - code.20090505.log >