| --- Log opened Wed Feb 11 00:00:27 2009 |
| 01:07 | <@Derakon> | Okay, that's no good. |
| 01:07 | <@Derakon> | Just got a report of an "Unsupported image format" error when loading the splash image. |
| 01:07 | <@Derakon> | http://aegis-soft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4&sid=856a51803c4f303ea6a875fbe8 ad1142 |
| 01:09 | <@Derakon> | About all I can think of is that you need to have libpng installed to run Fusillade, which would imply that the game's not actually standalone. |
| 01:09 | <@Derakon> | And that's no good. |
| 01:09 | <@McMartin> | ... libpng isn't living in Contents/Frameworks/Resources? |
| 01:10 | <@Derakon> | Allow me to double-check. |
| 01:11 | <@McMartin> | It's possible that libpng, being a transitive dependency of SDL_image, isn't being packaged. |
| 01:11 | <@Derakon> | Looks like it. The only stuff in Contents/Resources/lib is python2.5. |
| 01:12 | <@McMartin> | o_O. libSDL and libSDL_image should at least be there |
| 01:13 | <@Derakon> | Ahh, most of the libraries are in site-packages.zip, I think. |
| 01:14 | <@Derakon> | Hrm. Don't see any mention of sdl in filenames though. |
| 01:15 | <@McMartin> | Hm. |
| 01:15 | <@Derakon> | Let alone png. |
| 01:15 | <@McMartin> | I'll poke once I get off work |
| 01:15 | <@McMartin> | Try a find? |
| 01:16 | <@McMartin> | (find Fusillade.app -name \*SDL\*) |
| 01:16 | <@Derakon> | find . | grep -i sdl |
| 01:16 | <@Derakon> | No output. |
| 01:16 | <@McMartin> | Ow. |
| 01:16 | <@McMartin> | *.zip? |
| 01:16 | <@McMartin> | I mean, SDL is clearly somewhere... |
| 01:16 | <@McMartin> | Or he'd have crashed well before that. |
| 01:17 | <@Derakon> | Aside from the already-uncompressed site-packages.zip, just a font package I forgot to remove. |
| 01:17 | | * Derakon nods. |
| 01:21 | <@Derakon> | Oh, Contents/Frameworks, not Contents/Resources. |
| 01:21 | <@Derakon> | Contents/Frameworks has e.g. SDL.framework, SDL_image.framework, etc. |
| 01:24 | <@McMartin> | OK, so, libpng should be somwhere in SDL_image.framwork, or link against it elsewhere |
| 01:24 | <@McMartin> | Do an otool -L on SDL_image.framework/Versions/?/SDL_image |
| 01:25 | <@McMartin> | Make sure it's not linking, like, /usr/local/lib/libpng.dylib |
| 01:26 | <@Derakon> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/116653/ |
| 01:26 | <@McMartin> | That was... not what I was expecting. |
| 01:26 | <@Derakon> | Versions/A/SDL_image has the same output. |
| 01:26 | <@Derakon> | Yeah. |
| 01:27 | <@McMartin> | ... but I should have. It can't statically link it or it wouldn't have loaded in the first place. |
| 01:27 | <@Derakon> | I don't follow. |
| 01:28 | <@McMartin> | OK, so, it's loading libpng "by hand" so that it can decide to selectively not support it. |
| 01:28 | <@McMartin> | Hence, "I don't support this format" |
| 01:28 | <@McMartin> | Not "OH SHIT I CAN'T FIND A LIBRARY I DEPEND ON DYING NOW" |
| 01:28 | | * Derakon nods. |
| 01:29 | <@Derakon> | libpng is not an absolute dependency, just one that, if not present, disables certain features. |
| 01:29 | <@Derakon> | Hence why it's only failing once I get to try to load a PNG. |
| 01:29 | <@Derakon> | Ahh, so the implication is that any statically-linked dependency would have to be of the "oh shit" type. |
| 01:29 | <@McMartin> | Yeah |
| 01:30 | <@McMartin> | That said, UQM doesn't appear to pack a copy of libpng either, and I know it's needed. |
| 01:37 | <@Derakon> | Hmm...I'm running .0.3.6 right now, and there are newer versions. That might fix the problem? |
| 01:37 | <@Derakon> | By "newer" I mean "in SVN". |
| 01:38 | <@Derakon> | Hm. "py2app is smart enough to include all image plugins if it detects PIL |
| 01:38 | <@Derakon> | is being used. The problem was that the application needed a font, |
| 01:38 | <@Derakon> | and the font wasn't listed as a data file so it didn't make it into |
| 01:38 | <@Derakon> | the application bundle. " |
| 01:39 | <@Derakon> | No idea what PIL is in this context, but I am manually putting my data dependencies into position. Maybe if I told py2app to do that for me it'd say "Oh, you're reading PNGs, so I need this dependency." |
| 01:41 | <@McMartin> | PIL = Python Image Library |
| 01:48 | <@Derakon> | I figured out how to tell py2app to include the data directly, but I don't see any difference in the resulting app. |
| 01:49 | | * Consul just pulled the trigger and bought an MSI Wind U100. Feel free to tell me I made a huge mistake and wasted all my money, as that's what I'm expecting to hear from everyone now. |
| 01:49 | <@Derakon> | Um, is this a joystick? |
| 01:49 | <@Consul> | Netbook |
| 01:49 | <@Derakon> | Ah. |
| 01:49 | <@Consul> | Atom 1.6Ghz, 160GB hard disk, 2GB ram |
| 01:49 | <@Derakon> | Find out how well it runs Fusillade~ |
| 01:50 | <@Consul> | Heh |
| 01:50 | <@Consul> | It can't run HD video, so... |
| 01:50 | <@Consul> | That's not what I'm getting it for anyway. |
| 01:51 | <@Consul> | I want something that can a) do word processing on so I can do *all* of my homework at school, and b) handle a USB audio interface so I can do field recording. |
| 01:51 | <@Derakon> | Ahh, got a second report from the guy. |
| 01:52 | <@Derakon> | It sounds like some of the files are showing up as Adobe PNGs (e.g. the splash screen) instead of "normal" PNGs. |
| 01:52 | <@Derakon> | Basically he said he went through and found a bunch of files that his computer didn't like, so he mucked with them and now it works. |
| 01:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...what software did you use to generate them, incidentally? |
| 01:52 | <@McMartin> | Aha, good times then I guess |
| 01:52 | <@Derakon> | Mostly Blender, but Photoshop was involved for the splash screen, help screen, etc. |
| 01:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
| 01:53 | <@Derakon> | Shows what I get for thinking it can be trusted. |
| 01:53 | <@ToxicFrog> | (I don't know about PS, but Fireworks is known to have serious issues with PNG generation) |
| 01:53 | <@Derakon> | Hrm. For lossless conversion, should I do 'convert foo.png foo.tiff && convert foo.tiff foo.png'? |
| 01:54 | <@McMartin> | That would, in fact, be lossless... |
| 01:54 | <@McMartin> | TGA would probably work too |
| 02:04 | <@Derakon> | Okay, I hope that fixed the problem~ |
| 02:08 | <@Derakon> | And another good suggestion: hide the mouse during gameplay. |
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| 02:26 | <@Derakon> | Hrm. Mail::Sendmail doesn't appear to work on my hosting. |
| 02:26 | <@Derakon> | ...TW's not here, and I'd guess that none of the rest of you have ever had cause to send email from Perl. Oh, well. |
| 03:20 | <@Vornicus> | I once debugged a PHP script that sent mail. |
| 03:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | Sending mail by hand isn't hard. |
| 03:23 | <@Derakon> | I'd rather have an interface between me and the mail. |
| 03:23 | <@Derakon> | So I don't have to consciously worry about things like users putting weird characters in their email addresses or something. |
| 03:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | HELO hostname; MAIL FROM address; RCPT TO address; DATA |
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| 07:11 | | * TheWatcher readsup, normally just invokes sendmail himself - my $mailcmd = "sendmail -t -f your@adress.com"; open(SENDMAIL, "|$mailcmd"); print SENDMAIL $headers,"\n\n",$body; close(SENDMAIL); |
| 07:12 | <@TheWatcher> | also, you should always be worried about users putting unwanted or unexpected data in form fields, as it's always a potential security rist. Turn on tainting and check the fields. |
| 07:13 | <@TheWatcher> | It kinda sucks, but it makes your script far less of a risk. |
| 07:13 | | * Derakon nods. |
| 07:20 | <@TheWatcher> | except, of course, that should have been your\@address.com or use single quotes, because it's way too early in th emorning for me to get it right >.< |
| 07:20 | <@Derakon> | It's too late in the evening for me to get it right, which is why I'm doing fiddly HTML stuff instead. |
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| 18:53 | < Finale> | xxx> I sit and read comments in this code. Procedure for determination of access rights. Comment: "Admin has all possible rights, a set of impossible ones, and two improbable ones". How true. |
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| 19:21 | <@gnolam> | :) |
| 19:21 | < Finale> | can I get voice for a second please? |
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| 20:23 | <+Finale> | oh! missed it. |
| 20:23 | <+Finale> | http://pastie.org/386281 |
| 20:28 | <@gnolam> | Hah |
| 20:32 | <@gnolam> | I think I'll pass that one on to my reenactment mailing list. :) |
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| 23:42 | < gnolam> | Bleh. |
| 23:42 | < gnolam> | I need a new monitor. |
| 23:42 | < gnolam> | Or a larger desk. |
| 23:53 | <@Derakon> | Or both~ |
| --- Log closed Thu Feb 12 00:00:38 2009 |