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| 22:19 | <@crem> | any english native speaker alive? |
| 22:20 | < ToxicFrog> | Several, why? |
| 22:22 | <@crem> | Can I use the verb "debug" as "running the program step by step to see how it works" but not just "fixing the bug"? |
| 22:23 | <@crem> | or what word is better that "debug" for it? |
| 22:23 | < ToxicFrog> | Reverse engineering? |
| 22:23 | <@crem> | if I say "debug" meaning "running step by step" will i be understood?.. |
| 22:23 | <@crem> | Nope, not reverse engineering... |
| 22:24 | < ToxicFrog> | Hmm. If you aren't bugfixing it, and you aren't reverse engineering it, what are you doing? |
| 22:24 | <@crem> | For example my friend made some modification in code, but I can see that it doesn't fix the problem, can i say "I debugged (meaning ran step by step) and can see that you code is executed but it doesn't help" |
| 22:24 | <@crem> | ? |
| 22:25 | < ToxicFrog> | Anyways, "debugging" on its own is pretty nonspecific. |
| 22:25 | < ToxicFrog> | Aaah |
| 22:25 | < ToxicFrog> | "I ran it in the debugger" |
| 22:25 | < ToxicFrog> | Or possibly "I single-stepped through it" if you want to be more specific about how you examined it. |
| 22:26 | <@crem> | Alrite, if I already sent message to him saying that I "debugged", should I send another to clarify what I meant, or he will understand? |
| 22:27 | < ToxicFrog> | He'll probably understand, and if he doesn't he'll ask for clarification, no? And then you can explain. |
| 22:27 | <@crem> | ok, thanks. :) |
| 22:27 | < ToxicFrog> | In general, though, the verb "debug" is specifically "to remove bugs from (or attempt to do so)"; eg, "he sent it to me and I debugged it and sent it back" implies that you didn't just analyze it, but sent back a version with fewer bugs. |
| 22:30 | <@crem> | yep, the word debug is "de-bug", but I internally doesn't fill that "debugging" and "bugfixing" are synonyms. For me debugging is just analysing. :) |
| 22:32 | <@crem> | I'm going to bed. Bye. Thanks for answering to this linguistic offtopic. :) |
| 22:32 | < ToxicFrog> | No problem. Later. |
| 23:04 | | Reiver is now known as Orth |
| 23:21 | < McMartin> | TF: Thinking about it, the word "debugger" is about the only place where "debug" doesn't mean "remove bugs from" |
| 23:21 | < McMartin> | Well, also when "debug" is used as an adjective. |
| 23:23 | < McMartin> | Heh. Our build engineer says: "I'm aware of (because I caused) the buildbot failure, and am working to get it back up." |
| 23:23 | < McMartin> | Looks like I picked a good day for Ivory Towerness. |
| 23:58 | | Orth is now known as Reiver |
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