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| 02:16 | <@gnolam> | Hmm. I wonder if "Cloak" or "Radar Transparency" aug in Deus Ex will allow me to pass through laser detector beams. |
| 02:18 | < Shou|Zzz> | no. |
| 02:18 | < Shou|Zzz> | Realy men just walk through them and use a single sniper round to break the turrets. |
| 02:19 | <@McMartin> | Real men beat Deus Ex inflicting no casualties whatsoever. |
| 02:19 | < Shou|Zzz> | Riot prod, baton, and F7 |
| 02:21 | <@McMartin> | Tranq darts too, IIRC |
| 02:23 | <@gnolam> | Tranq darts are annoyingly non-stealthy though. |
| 02:24 | <@gnolam> | What with the victim running around shooting at you after deployment. |
| 02:25 | < Shou|Zzz> | You have to catch them in the back of the head perfectly |
| 02:25 | < Shou|Zzz> | to knock them out |
| 02:25 | < Shou|Zzz> | it's much easier to run up on them and beat them until they fall |
| 02:25 | < Shou|Zzz> | or use a riot prod charger |
| 02:25 | < Shou|Zzz> | Then baton |
| 02:26 | <@gnolam> | One-shot drops /are/ possible with the darts? |
| 02:26 | < Shou|Zzz> | with darts and traq darts, yes |
| 02:26 | < Shou|Zzz> | flare darts sometimes atch them on fire |
| 02:26 | < Shou|Zzz> | But that might be me missing and catching something on fire...which they stupidly stand near |
| 02:26 | <@gnolam> | I gave up on them after the first level and resorted to whacking people in the back of the head (well, actually, in their /buttocks/, which for some reason is instantly incapacitating) instead. |
| 02:27 | <@McMartin> | Well, sure |
| 02:27 | <@McMartin> | You're kicking their ass. |
| 02:27 | <@gnolam> | Hah. |
| 02:30 | <@gnolam> | I was just thinking of the WKUK sketch every time. |
| 02:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | Shou|Zzz: flare darts never set NPCs on fire unless modded, IIRC. |
| 02:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | But the actual mod work is trivial. |
| 02:34 | < Shou|Zzz> | TF: I must have made them catch on fire with objects, then. That's always fun. |
| 02:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | Really, unless they set people on fire there's no point; otherwise they are both the most useless dart type and by far the rarest. |
| 02:56 | < Shou|Zzz> | Definitely. |
| 02:56 | | Shou|Zzz is now known as Shoukanjuu |
| 02:57 | < Shoukanjuu> | They can be used as normal darts in a pinch |
| 02:57 | < Shoukanjuu> | But you shouldn't be running out of them any time soon |
| 02:58 | < Shoukanjuu> | A good idea is to get targeting and lower HP for enemies with whatever before tranq darting them |
| 02:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | Pfft. Real cyborgs use the shockprod. |
| 02:59 | < Shoukanjuu> | Well of course. |
| 02:59 | < Shoukanjuu> | Good luck with the karkians. |
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| 05:53 | <@McMartin> | < o o > |
| 05:53 | <@McMartin> | ( *_ ) |
| 05:53 | <@McMartin> | ASCII PUPPIES HIDING IN YOUR METADATA |
| 05:55 | < Shoukanjuu> | .........>_> |
| 06:17 | < Shoukanjuu> | Crafty beasts... I'm onto you ?_? |
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| 15:10 | | * gnolam takes Deus Ex off the list of good games and puts it on the "Shit By Definition" list instead. |
| 15:12 | < Vornotron> | what'd it ever do to you? |
| 15:13 | <@gnolam> | Break. |
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| 15:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | How? |
| 15:14 | <@gnolam> | Main quest is bugged. :P |
| 15:15 | <@gnolam> | And if your game ships with either savegame corruption or main quest script borkage, it doesn't matter if it plays like solid gold carved by the Gameplay Elves - it's by definition shit. |
| 15:19 | <@gnolam> | So. Any tips on old games I should finish that are actually POSSIBLE to finish? :P |
| 15:23 | <@AnnoDomini> | Planescape: Torment. |
| 15:25 | <@gnolam> | Based on D&D, isn't it? |
| 15:25 | <@AnnoDomini> | ADnD2e. |
| 15:25 | <@AnnoDomini> | It's not your standard notTolkien setting. |
| 15:26 | <@gnolam> | Ah. Then I'm not interested. |
| 15:26 | <@gnolam> | My hate for D&D burns like a beacon in the night. |
| 15:27 | <@AnnoDomini> | Do you like philosophy and dialogue? |
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| 15:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | Well, clearly it's not bugged for everyone, because everyone I know who's played it except you has finished it without problems. |
| 15:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | So: what's the nature of the bug, and have you installed the latest patch? |
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| 15:34 | <@gnolam> | No, but it's bugged for me. I don't care if /other/ people could play it through. :P |
| 15:34 | <@gnolam> | I'm supposed to meet up with the triad leaders in the temple, after getting the ROM encoding for the Dragon sword. |
| 15:34 | <@gnolam> | There's only one of them there. |
| 15:34 | <@gnolam> | The other one is back at his compound, completely unresponsive. |
| 15:34 | <@gnolam> | => impossible to continue. |
| 15:35 | <@gnolam> | And of course it's patched. :P |
| 15:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | Huh. Weird. It should trigger as soon as you enter the Buddhist temple with the DT ROM. |
| 15:37 | <@gnolam> | When people say a game has replay value, it's not supposed to mean "You'll have to replay this bitch and hope it doesn't bug /this/ time!". |
| 15:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | The one there doesn't respond either? |
| 15:37 | <@gnolam> | He says something extremely generic. |
| 15:39 | <@ToxicFrog> | Anyways. That's not what it means, because as far as I can tell you are the only person to have encountered this bug, ever |
| 15:39 | <@ToxicFrog> | I can't even find any discussion of it on the net |
| 15:40 | <@gnolam> | So it's either "replay from a save point /even further/ back than I've already tried" or "uninstall and throw the disk in the cylindrical archive". |
| 15:40 | <@gnolam> | I'm leaning towards the latter. :P |
| 15:40 | <@ToxicFrog> | If you'd installed the multiplayer patch that might have something to do with it, since it's rumoured to be slightly wobbly in SP, but I've never observed this. |
| 15:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | Or (c) use the code that lets you edit plot flags directly, continue play |
| 15:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | But at this point you seem to be looking for reasons to toss the game FOREVAH, so whatever. |
| 15:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | As for recommendations - seconding PsT, even though it's based on AD&D2 and thus desperately needs a rewrite with a non-terrible ruleset. System Shock and Thief games. Strike Force Centauri. Ultima Underworld. Wing Commander 1 and especially 2. Ground Control. Dungeon Keeper. Marathon trilogy. Descent. Geneforge or Avernum (or both). Fallout 1 and 2. Myst series. The Incredible Machine. Betrayal at Krondor. Day |
| 15:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | of the Tentacle. Curse of Monkey Island. Full Throttle. Sam & Max. |
| 15:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | Take your pick. |
| 15:47 | <@gnolam> | And what code would that be? :P |
| 15:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | T |
| 15:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Set DeusEx.JCDentonMale bCheatsEnabled True |
| 15:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | T |
| 15:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | legend |
| 15:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | If T does nothing, or does something other than open the > talk prompt, either you haven't installed patch 1.112 or you have but have bound T to something else; bind something to "Talk" and use that. |
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| 17:24 | | * TheWatcher checks whether he has a savegame from after the bit in the temple |
| 17:24 | <@TheWatcher> | (snd yes, I've never run into or heard of that one) |
| 17:28 | <@TheWatcher> | hm, no. Next save from after entering the MJ12 lab is 3 hours later |
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