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| 03:02 | < gnolam> | SCORE! |
| 03:03 | <@Serah> | ?? |
| 03:04 | | * gnolam finally got his matrices all working together. |
| 03:04 | < gnolam> | Finally, correct perspective. |
| 03:05 | <@Serah> | ??? |
| 03:07 | < gnolam> | Billboarding. |
| 03:09 | < Vornicus> | Billboarding: the process of taking a 2d image and placing it in 3d space so it is normal to the camera. Used to achieve sprite effects and HUD. |
| 03:10 | < Vornicus> | That? |
| 03:10 | < gnolam> | Yes. |
| 03:11 | <@Serah> | Doesn't sound too hard :p |
| 03:11 | < Vornicus> | It's pretty hard. |
| 03:12 | <@Serah> | Why? |
| 03:12 | < Vornicus> | For one thing it means manually handling the camera matrix. |
| 03:12 | <@Serah> | Oh. |
| 03:12 | <@Serah> | I thought you meant the actual placing of a 2d image in an existing 3d engine. |
| 03:13 | <@Serah> | Can't see why that would have to need much more than a vector, maybe two if you scale the image. |
| 03:13 | < Vornicus> | That itself isn't too hard - it's getting billboarding to work in the first place that's the tricky bit. |
| 03:31 | <@McMartin> | It's particularly nasty when you're doing things like smoke effects |
| 03:31 | <@McMartin> | Mixing sprites and 3D in the same render is a mess. HUDs are easy because you can render the world, then retune, then render the HUD. |
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| 04:12 | < gnolam> | Hmm. Almost 0530. Better go to bed. |
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| 13:11 | <@gnolam> | http://blog.avalanchelabs.com/uploaded_images/EPy1j0Ohle7vmnnjzLPvu2dso1_500-757 249.jpg |
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| 17:49 | <@AnnoDomini> | "<Oryn> anyone know if there is a version of dpkg for redhat?" <- Could someone point out the joke? |
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| 18:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: there's a joke? |
| 18:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | It seems like an entirely reasonable request, along the lines of asking if there's a build of rpm for <insert deb-based distro here> |
| 18:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | Although in either case using a conversion tool is probably a better bet. |
| 18:32 | <@AnnoDomini> | I know nothing. I saw it in a place that normally contains jokes, so I assumed it had one. |
| 18:34 | <@gnolam> | The package mamagement system/repository is pretty much what makes a distro though. |
| 18:35 | <@gnolam> | But if that's supposed to be the funnay, whoever posted it is severely humor-impaired. |
| 18:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | gnolam: yeah, but the typical use case for this sort of thing that obscure package X, which is not available in the repositories, is offered for download from the developer's site only as source or as <some package format your distro doesn't use> |
| 18:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | And you would rather have something you can easily install and remove without having to build it from source and then manually package it. |
| 18:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | (if the problem you're trying to solve is "I don't like this distro's package manager", you ask for apt-get/yum/zypper/pacman/etc, not a replacement for the backend) |
| 18:39 | <@gnolam> | I'm not disagreeing with you. :) |
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| 19:30 | <@Doctor_Nick> | palin is a post turtle |
| 19:31 | < Shoukanjuu> | I'm pretty sure the Republicans made themselves look bad on purpose. |
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| 19:53 | <@ToxicFrog> | "post turtle"? |
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| 19:54 | < Shoukanjuu> | A turtle on a fence post |
| 19:54 | < Shoukanjuu> | So that the shell is on the post |
| 19:54 | < Shoukanjuu> | And the legs can't do anything to get off of it? |
| 19:54 | < Shoukanjuu> | >_> |
| 20:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | And yeah, I have occasionally wondered if they're using this election to try to take a precise measurement of the Crazification. |
| 20:02 | < Shoukanjuu> | Well |
| 20:02 | < Shoukanjuu> | Around a month ago, I decided that the Republicans were purposely sabotaging this election in the Democrat favor. |
| 20:03 | < Shoukanjuu> | I mean, can people really be that...stupid? Is it really possible? |
| 20:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
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| 21:25 | <@gnolam> | What's she done now? |
| 21:26 | < Shoukanjuu> | Being Vice President is something that is clearly over her head |
| 21:26 | < Shoukanjuu> | But with Mccain being the stereotypical "Might die within the next term" republican |
| 21:27 | < Shoukanjuu> | She would be president, should they get voted up |
| 21:27 | < Shoukanjuu> | I'm guessing that's what it means, considering the context |
| 21:38 | < Shoukanjuu> | I really should call my ISP and get the stuff required so I can run my modem in bridge mode so it would stop dropping my packets >:/ |
| 21:41 | <@McMartin> | gnolam: Nothing in particular |
| 21:41 | <@McMartin> | The campaign has been hiding her from the press and escorting her from the room whenever anyone who even so much as plays a journalist in a reality show asks her anything |
| 21:42 | < Shoukanjuu> | This only furthers my suspicion that Republicans are waiting for better conditions to take the white house in |
| 21:42 | < Shoukanjuu> | Eight years of Bush, then Eight years of Obama |
| 21:43 | < Shoukanjuu> | If, Cthulhu willing, things are better than current in eight years >> |
| 21:43 | <@McMartin> | Bear in mind that in a 2-party system, that's not necessarily a failure more. |
| 21:43 | <@McMartin> | mode |
| 21:44 | < Shoukanjuu> | It's all part of a plan |
| 21:44 | <@McMartin> | If the Republicans spend those 8 years getting the fuck rid of the corrupt egomaniacs so that all the people that defected to the Democrats in '06 like Jim Webb re-defect, that's actually a net plus for the nation. |
| 21:45 | <@McMartin> | I'd be thrilled if we actually had a Cagy Technocrat party and a Grown-Up Libertarian Party. |
| 21:46 | <@McMartin> | Right now we have the Cagy Technocrat and Grown-Up Libertarian party and the Liars, Thieves, and Apocalyptic Religious Fanatics party. |
| 21:46 | | * Shoukanjuu raises taxes, fixes system, gets hated by everyone |
| 21:47 | | * Shoukanjuu lowers taxes, overfucks the system, loved by everyone until they find out that they're fucked...by then, it's too late |
| 21:47 | < Shoukanjuu> | D: |
| 21:47 | <@McMartin> | See, the former is what cagy technocrats are for. |
| 21:47 | <@McMartin> | The grown-up libertarians are there to make sure that overfuckings don't occur but that the technocrats don't micromanage the fuck out of everyone because really that kind of sucks. |
| 21:48 | <@McMartin> | There just aren't many of them and right now there are basically Zero in office. |
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| 22:40 | <@gnolam> | "Cat (Tame) has given birth to kittens." |
| 22:41 | < Shoukanjuu> | Abandon all hope. |
| 22:41 | <@gnolam> | Now, if it had given birth to /puppies/, that might have been worthy of an announcement... |
| 22:42 | <@gnolam> | (I have just taken up Dwarf Fortress again) |
| 22:43 | <@gnolam> | And I might have just accidentally roasted half my population. |
| 22:43 | < Shoukanjuu> | Collateral damage. Think of all the weapons you can make with a pyre of that size. |
| 22:44 | <@gnolam> | In retrospect, the Grand Magma Aqueduct might have been a bit excessive. |
| 22:45 | < Shoukanjuu> | I'm reminded of this troll who said that giant death robots were not required for every little thing. |
| 22:49 | <@gnolam> | Actually, I retract my previous statement. The Grand Magma Aqueduct is still a great idea. |
| 22:50 | <@gnolam> | Connecting the inflow before the outflow, however, was a pretty big mistake. |
| 22:50 | < Shoukanjuu> | .... |
| 22:50 | | * Shoukanjuu opens his mouth like he's going to comment, decides against it |
| 22:51 | | * Shoukanjuu facepalms instead |
| 22:51 | <@gnolam> | But in my defense, the lever controlling the thing /looked/ like it was in the 'off' position... |
| 22:51 | <@AnnoDomini> | FLOODGATE. |
| 22:52 | < Shoukanjuu> | Well, look at it this way |
| 22:52 | <@gnolam> | AnnoDomini: Can't have those, unfortunately. No magma-proof materials. |
| 22:52 | <@gnolam> | So I have to use SCIENCE! |
| 22:52 | <@AnnoDomini> | Use kittens. |
| 22:52 | < Shoukanjuu> | If they couldn't get away from the magma that was apaprently flooding |
| 22:52 | <@gnolam> | I.e. screwpumps. |
| 22:52 | <@AnnoDomini> | Build a floodgate out of kittens. |
| 22:52 | < Shoukanjuu> | They weren't going to be useful for anything else, except maybe food |
| 22:54 | <@gnolam> | Well... in this case, "apparently flooding" means "being pumped towards them at high speed and pressure by an automated multi-tiered system of pumps" |
| 22:55 | < Shoukanjuu> | "Hey guys, let's build this city on a riverbed!" "Sounds like a great ide-OHGODLAVA" |
| 22:56 | <@gnolam> | Hah! Looks like I managed to shut the system off in time. |
| 22:56 | <@gnolam> | I only roasted a couple of recruit and about a dozen cats. |
| 22:56 | < Shoukanjuu> | Surprising, that the minority was roasted. |
| 22:56 | <@gnolam> | +s |
| 22:56 | < Shoukanjuu> | It would be nice to have a game that would turn on you if something like this happened |
| 22:57 | <@gnolam> | ... Dwarf Fortress is pre-turned. |
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| 22:57 | < Shoukanjuu> | The minority was killed, hmm. Coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO. |
| 22:57 | < Shoukanjuu> | *coup de'tat* |
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| 23:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | gnolam: hang on...you don't have any magma-proof materials, but you have magma pumps? |
| 23:21 | < GeekSoldier> | in what vessel could we store the universal solvent? |
| 23:25 | <@gnolam> | To be specific, no magma-proof materials /that can be used to make floodgates/. |
| 23:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | What are you making the pumps out of, then? |
| 23:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | (also: as of the last version I played, only the mechanisms need to be magma-proof - the gates themselves can be anything) |
| 23:25 | <@gnolam> | Only the pipe section and the corkscrew have to be magma-proof in screwpumps. |
| 23:25 | <@gnolam> | And iron I have in plenty. |
| 23:26 | <@gnolam> | Alas, I have no magma-proof rock for mechanisms. |
| 23:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | Hang on, iron is magma-proof? |
| 23:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | I didn't know that. |
| 23:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | I thought it was just adamantine and bauxite. |
| 23:27 | <@gnolam> | It is. For some reason. |
| 23:27 | <@gnolam> | (I mean, you can smelt iron ore in the magma smelter...) |
| 23:27 | <@gnolam> | But only rocks can be used to make mechanisms. So you need adamantine or bauxite if you want to use floodgates. |
| 23:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | Aah yes |
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